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If I'm honest I don't want either party in power but I will be voting conservative at this election, mostly to keep the radical left wing socialists out.

We made noises about Toby, this is just upping the anti.

Clear as mud.

He will go and it will most likely be to Liverpool. We do this sort of dance every summer and they always go.

don't Wahaabi and Deobandi mosques make up more than half of the mosques in this country? If we are to agree that this doctrine is the extremist form then why is this the case?

Indeed. I would be confident in saying that his view is very much closer to those who believe that more has to be done and that there is a problem with radical Islam than the opposite.

Sorry where am I looking for this?

Vote Labour and they may decide not to give Abbott a cabinet position or vote Tory and she will definitely not get one.

Muhammed being a warlord and violently forcing people to convert to Islam or die rather flies in the face of that opinion.

Maajid nawaz? Or is he not a real Muslim either in your opinion?

Almost no one believes that all Muslims are terrorists. There is clearly a connection between Islamic terrorism and Islam. Not sure why this has to keep being repeated.

I've previously explained why your attitude amounts to apologism of Islamic terror. You haven't got a shred of evidence that I have a problem with all Muslims, instead you wrongly attempt to equate the extremist views of Sour Mash with others to try to discredit them. You're a joke.

This sums it up well

I think Abbott is a racist whose identity politics does more to divide and upset this country than most other politicians I have seen. I don't hate her personally as I don't know her but I certainly despise the ideology she represents and many of her actions. I don't believe I've ever claimed to hate anyone else on here pal so not sure why you felt the need to add that comment.

Oh you mean like you provided a fictitious list of people who have a problem with "all Muslims?"

Agreed. I generally hate her but she seems spaced out at the moment- I almost felt a bit sorry for her.

Indeed. If we sell him to them anyway then we look like fools.

Excellent article. Glad to see that fellow Muslims are calling for more to be done. Frankly puts some of the apologists on here to shame.

That's true but if we can strengthen other areas it won't matter so much. If we got a mane equivalent, a cm, Tadic replacement and a slight cb downgrade then I wouldn't really mind.

Interesting because when nuttal used the word Islamist in the debate last week he was shouted down with derision and cries of racism. Double standards?

Agree with that. We need a new political party with someone charismatic that people will actually. Vote for - not Blair.

Surveillance of well known areas where extremists are developed needs to be improved including inside mosques, we need a zero tolerance approach to any sort of extremism and deportation for non British citizens who have been found guilty of extremism. Any returning fighters from IS should be stripped of their citizenship and removed from the country and I would look into abolishing Islamic only schools. That won't solve the problems but it will be better than the situation we have now where we turn a blind eye to all of this and carry on as normal.

I bought the latest Douglas Murray book- the strange death of Europe - and it's very good and I agree with much of it. The values we hold dear and European western democracy is something worth defending. We need to stand up for our way of life a lot more but it seems that our confidence has been eroded.

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