NickG

some strange views....google upset you? It maybe you that is erroneous..not seen it in the flesh, but sounds like you haven't either so maybe bit foolish to make hasty assumptions? Someone who has seen it has views contrary to your 'feel cheap' 'flimsy' 'plastic'... For starters, the build quality and materials are amazing. As soon as you pick it up you know you're holding something that is built with more love and thought than a Galaxy Nexus or GSIII. The front and back are Gorilla Glass 2 and the sides are made from a rubberized plastic that actually feels great. The whole phone is really solid, and it's the first Android phone that seems like it's had real passion put into the design. The front is still a beautiful, minimalist black slab, devoid of any logos or carrier branding. I love it. The back features a giant Nexus logo at the top and a smaller manufacturer logo at the bottom. This is, easily, the most beautiful Android phone ever made http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/01/initial-impressions-of-the-nexus-4-raising-the-bar-for-design-materials-and-build-quality/

used to come on here for football gossip... ..now to laugh at the posters with conspiracy theories, overreactions, and bizarre demands!

Decided definately going for Nexus 4. Trading in wildfire for £25 with o2. Three sim only deal £6.90 per month, but £41.67 cash back from Quidco takes it to £3.40 per month. T mobile, close package for - what appear to me worse phones, S3 and iphone5 - about £30 per month. Save £300 per year! Just deciding whether 8gb would do the job or would need 16gb. Lowered bit rate of music and now only using 2gb on current phone.

if you are looking for a positive and a reason why we will stay up..here it is... ..he's usually wrong! Goes without saying that carrying on we will go down....thats what the league table is. BUT...for big periods we have played very well. We are not likely to get many draws and scrape tight wins. What we will do is win games...like Villa. We are set up to get some decent wins at home. Beat bottom half teams at home and we will be ok. Difficult thing for manager is that so many of our defeats are due to 5 or 10 mins of madness - arsenal, Man U, WHU, Everton. I am worried about the space on the left with Fox and Lallana. Only home game Ramirez has played in - easy win. Get him fit for some winnable home games and could look very different. Think Ramirez and Rodriguez can earn they fees this season. Gut feeling...stay up. Stick with NA.

my crap old htc hardly has any apps (as none run on it!) but have over 8 gb filled with music etc. worried about decent phone not being able to use it to full due to memory

sorted! Just seen Nexus 4! Instead of S2 for £26 per month, Nexus 4, £239 plus SIM only deal, e.g. three for £6.90 per month S2 over two years =£624 Nexus 4 over two years =£404 save £220 over two years and get phone with better spec than S3 or iphone 5!! Too good to be true...am I missing something?

I had convinced myself to save a few pennies and go for the S2..... still tempted by S3. Think only two options looking at for the moment (although the note and note 2 look good!). Best deal is if I wait for 2nd half of December if stay with Tmobile, or February if start afresh. Guess a lot of deals can change in few weeks.

It is rare for sub keeper to come on. Being on bench won't overly benefit him. If sub keeper comes on it is often when a keeper has been sent off, maybe to come on and face a penalty. Perhaps Gazza little put out going from No1 to out of squad but sure it is managed. Benefit of KD on bench 1) club capt - involves him in team on day 2) more experienced if coming on suddenly 3) bit of penalty saving specialist

offered upgrade on my crap phone- to S2 - for my use I can't justify the extra for S3. Use for photos, email, bit of browsing, diary, task management for work.. any views on S2?

my 8 year old understands it better!

didn't realise all of those managers also; had team in top 2 of championship for whole season got promoted with a squad many of whom more used to playing at lower level stayed above bigger spending clubs with experienced manager ( who you predicted were class above us) did this in first year promoted to division scored hatfull of goals have had 4 promotions in 5 seasons and given me great entertainment as well. think its you making out he is something he isn't if you don't put him ahead of most managers on what he had achieved so far. personally appreciate him a lot more than you do, and feel his achievements have earnt respect and loyalty. I wouldnt swap for any on your list. luckily only appears to be few muppets on here, who knee jerk after handful of poor performances.

In the Villa game Ramirez appeared, to my uneducated eye, to be playing quite a free role. Behind Lambert, but also coming deep. As it seems 4-3-3 is our preferred formation, and Ramirez will be a starter when fit, how will he fit in? some interesting articles on 4-3-3 http://stateofthegame.co.uk/2012/09/12/flying-in-formation/ http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Association_football_4-3-3_formation.svg&page=1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_(association_football)#4.E2.80.933.E2.80.933 http://www.grassrootscoaching.com/members/page.phtml?id=133&mid=65&lng=EN http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/311925-4-3-3-the-new-first-team-formation-for-Liverpool-FC Would Ramirez be involved enough as a winger? Better as CM?

some posters are getting very weird and obsessive?? think we need a win for their mental health! As some are struggling with even simple explanations...my final attempt to explain to those less fortunate... Rednapp is a very experienced and quite a good premiership manager. He peddles the myth that he saved Spurs - sadly two or three here so in awe of his words they bought it. He inherited a squad worth a fortune. A squad that had finished mid table then had a ridiculous amount more thrown at it. They started badly, and he was brought in. He spend a huge amount (gross or net makes no difference!!) and this midtable squad, with £100+m added talent, plus the worlds best manager finished.....mid table. He continued to spend - although didn't need to spend as much due to the amount of expensive players already there, and yes sold high as well. But the net spend, on top of an already expensive squad was still high. He took this team from 5th place finishes to 4th. All that is fact and simple. Opinion - some are in awe and think it was excellent, I don't buy it and put him as quite good but over rated.

Its quite sweet how some have fallen for Arry's charm and believe he built spurs from nothing, on his own and cheaply! The side he inherited for his first game; Tottenham: Gomes, Hutton, Corluka, King, Assou-Ekotto, Bentley, Jenas, Huddlestone, Modric, O'Hara (Lennon 70), Pavlyuchenko (Bent 67). Subs Not Used: Cesar, Zokora, Gunter, Giovani, Campbell. His first transfer window did see some in and some out... in.. With the January transfer window opening on 1 January, Tottenham made movement in the market straight away. On 6 January 2009, Jermain Defoe returned to the club from Portsmouth in a deal worth an initial £9million with extras and the writing off of past transfer fees in Pedro Mendes and Defoe himself meant the media announced the fee £15 million,[61] Just over 2 weeks later, Tottenham came to an agreement for the transfer of Wilson Palacios for a fee of £12 million from Wigan, the deal for Palacios was concluded on 30 January with the approval of a work permit.[62] Tottenham also signed experienced goalkeeper Carlo Cudicini from Chelsea on a free transfer[63] and also concluded a deal to re-sign Pascal Chimbonda from Sunderland for a fee thought to be around £3 million,[64] On the final day of the transfer window, Tottenham resigned their third former player in a month, signing striker Robbie Keane for a fee of an initial £12 million, which, depending on circumstances, can rise to £15 million.[65] out... The departures in January saw Andy Barcham made his loan move to Gillingham permanent for an undisclosed fee,[66] four days later, Charlie Daniels left Tottenham to join Leyton Orient on a free transfer.[67] On 21 January, Veteran goalkeeper Cesar Sanchez contract was cancelled so he could return to Spain to play for Spanish club Valencia.[68] and two days later, Tottenham outcast Hossam Ghaly joined Saudi-Arabian club Al-Nasr for an undisclosed price.[69] Somehow, despite losing Andy Barcham and Charlie Daniels and only spending 50 odd million in January, he managed to take a team that had struggled in 11th, that had only had 50 odd million added in the summer..to climb 3 places....if you think that is excellent turn around, either you fall for his charm, or you have a very different view on excellent management to me. That excellent and exceeding what his spending should achieve that he was sacked!

HR is no mug as a manager, but I honestly believe he is overrated due to his popularity with the media and within the game. I remember Lowe commenting that he was approached by HR after he left WHU, Lowe made some comment that WHU had one of the 4 highest wage bills in the premiership and HR only just escaped relegation. The saving spurs story is a bit of a myth. The three seasons before HR 05/06 5th 65 points 06/07 5th 60 points 7/08 11th 46 points Then arrived Arry. The squad that had finshed 11th had just had these players added to it; Modric £17m Santos £9m Gomes £8m Bentley £15m Pavluchenko £14m Corluka £9m Arry also added in the January window Defoe £15m Palacios £12m Chimbonda £2.5m Cudicini free Keane £12m Arry, with his management skills, and an addition of a mere £105m worth of talent, took a team from 11th (46 points) to 8th (51 points). The next season he only spent £30m on Crouch(£10m) Bassong (£8m) Kaboul (£8m) plus few others, season after £20m on Sandro (£6m) Van Der Vaat(£8m) Piernaar (£3m) Gallas free. Before slowing down with Parker £6m. This management, and spending, took spurs from 04/05 9th (52) 05/05 5th (65) 06/07 5th (60) 07/08 11th (46) to 08/09 8th (51) 09/10 4th (70) 10/11 5th (62) 11/12 4th (69) Yes improvement, yes decent experienced manager, but not manager who dragged Spurs from nowhere like some suggest..and was at huge cost.

What a load of attention seeking ********! our best manager is years, at least since Hoddle, role is untenable - why? Because a few rumours after a relatively bad start! On this reckoning managers would find themselves sacked every few weeks. Broken man....disappointed manager after defeat...due again to a few minutes of madness from players. confirmation not fully in control.....you have just made that up!! as is shown in this thread. growing rumours...one tweet from someone with no known links to football - denied by journo in football! reality...there is none in your post! Arry...Spurs finished 11th with 46 points in 07/08, Arry came in and added Defoe, Palacios, Cudicini, Chimbonda, Robbie Keane, and got them to finish 8th with 51 points - costing them just over £50m for that improvement of 5 points!!

I have heard that the transfers we were about to complete this summer were; Jordi Alba Sergio Ramos Lucio Daniel Alves I think we would have been ok with that back four, but Adkins listened to saintsweb and turned them all down due to lack of premiership experience. Thing that gives me most hope this season - seeing likes of Alpine confirming our relegation - knowing he knows f all, and has been wrong every season means we will probably do ok! Premiership is not some unique style that players can't cope with....its higher quality. I've seen Ramierez once, he had no prem experience, he was a mile better than any other player on the pitch.

did well, better team first half. concede two awful goals quickly its concentration RL - every will have opinions, I will live and die by mine. He is the main reason we got to prem, love the guy, I am the only person to look at. Boruc - came well for crosses in 1st half, was commanding in development games, thought his experience would count. Fox - injured. we are going to play 4/3/3

, Why biggest loser? to put in perspective he is losing little. A lot of big fans of his do not think he is coming out of this very well (clear from here). He certainly isn't gaining, nor is it neutral. I am huge fan of him - as a player - but think he sounds pathetic. Guess Cortese cares less what MLT thinks of him, than MLT cares about NC - and rightly so. My comments about biggest loser were after I laughed reading MLT's specifics - that NC has been acting as manager (and the result being the best win record in the league over two years - may have made that up though ) and that there were other bidders we didn't need Markus...yes Matt we remember well your other bidder!! Good luck with your Cortese out campaign...enjoy the return of Ryan Smith

clearly not a good start, but we have not only looked better than poor in a few minutes; Man City / Wigan - I didn't see but by all accounts Man City played well for decent amount of game. Man Utd -we were better than a top side for 80 odd minutes - guardian; Nigel Adkins' side deserved the ovation they were afforded at the final whistle. They had matched United, just as they did against Manchester City on the opening weekend, and on this evidence they should not be discouraged about their hopes of staying in the division. To have no points after playing so stoutly must feel galling in the extreme. Schneiderlin was outstanding telegraph Southampton find themselves bottom of the Premier League without having played badly. They just failed to concentrate for fractions of seconds and that is all the time a class act like Van Persie needs. Arsenal - sh1t Villa - thought we were very good, particularly Ramirez / Lambert Even Everton had some decent play - guardian - There was a contest for 25 minutes and Southampton were worthy of their lead as Everton struggled. The second half was a nonevent but for a Ramírez chip over Howard that rolled agonisingly wide. Everton coasted home and Southampton improved defensively, as they must do to avoid a struggle against relegation Fulham - was some decent stuff. Not trying to kid anyone that we have been playing well enough, or re-writing history that we are flying just unlucky. Think you would be more accurate if you said we are playing well and could be decent side, if we can get rid of the odd sporadic minutes when we are so poor we through games away. Arsenal, Man U, Everton - all failing to cope with a team attacking hard for short period. Interested, did you see Villa game? Was that a poor side. Lucky last season...not out of the top two for a whole season ffs. Don't change facts to try and make your error of judgement on Adkins appointment look better I was confident last season that our manager and squad were better than WHU and we would finish above them. I was confident of the same this season..until Carroll signing, if he clicks they will do well, if not reckon still good change will be above them. If we both stay up, I guarantee our manager would have given us a better season of football! Adkins has made more right calls than most managers in the top four divisions over the last two years so hopefully will continue!

oh dear, sounds bit embarrassing now so, his criticsism is that NC is in fact acting as manager. Remind me how many clubs have better win record over last few years? please keep meddling. and we know about the other bidder don't we mat? I don't care MLT's view. nor whether NC is nice. but real shame mlt is tarnishing his image with this embarrassing behaviour. of course its up to him, but think he is biggest loser, shame.

Remember the days of Lowe, Wilde, Lowe..... all interested in self publicity? There was almost universal calls for a chairman who would quietly stay in the background, and allow the team to flourish? A chairman who would sign players better than we have? Would improve the side? We have all the above. Do I care about whether MLT likes him? Not in the slightest. Do I care about who runs the ticket office, corporate sales? Not in the slightest. Do I care about the relationship with the echo (who made errors in their reporting and didn't like the consequences) not in the slightest. Do I know details of Illingsworths dispute? No. Have I heard stories that put him in bad light as well..? Do I care about the media spat? Actually found it quite amusing. Do I care about the contract issues with builders? Not in the slightest. Do I think Adkins job is more vulnerable than any other manager or less in similar circumstances...less. Do I care what MLT thinks about Cortese? Not in the slightest. How did the reporting of MLT's comments sound on Solent this morning? Like MLT was 10 years old whining he doesn't like someone. Are MLT concerns about issues that would have a negative impact on saints? No - MLT has said so himself. Therefore irrelevant, personal issues. Do I think Cortese is likely to be personable, caring and perfect? no. Has any chairman had such a positive impact on any English club recently in moving them forward, bringing attractive football and players? No. Am I killing time at work? Yes! Will leave you with this thought....last transfer window before NC we signed Ryan Smith, this one we signed Gaston Ramirez.

s agree, he has missed the point. i normally enjoy his reporting. mlt is looking immature and lacking class. whether cortese is likable is not a news story.

not relevant though, we see NC likes to keep quiet, we hear MLT whinging about him. its not football, or relevant. if there is story him/ mlt can say. this just seems (albeit based only on this thread) petty negative point scoring and stirring.

as you did west ham last season.