kwsaint

Heath in 84. No contest.

My reason for being incensed was more the laziness behind his reporting. There seems to be a lack atm of critical pundits (the only one I can think is actually pretty good is Gary Neville). I felt as an article it could have been much longer and he could have gone into more depth about why we played badly (e.g. there was no clear strategy as to how we were going to win the game; unlike saints who's defence moves up as a unit, ours tended to drift and there seemed to be quite a few times when germany were through one on one with Hart purely because our offside trap was lazy). My beef is that he's the "bbc football expert" or whatever his title is officially. When I watch rugby, for example, the commentary is interesting and is always critical. Cricket as well although that's a slower game so they have to talk about something. It's not necessarily bad because I disagree with him (as you pointed out we agree on quite a lot) I just feel it was an incredibly lazy report.

I'll answer post 2 then: 1)Hart did make 3 or 4 very good saves that kept the scoreline down. But for me, he also made defensive errors like running out of his penalty area when the defender had it covered. It's these mistakes which was why I felt 8 was a high score for me. For me, he wasn't as consistent as a world class goalie should be even though he can be if he gets back on form. I would have given him a 6. 2)As I said earlier, I felt Cleverley didn't look like a first XI player to me. He hasn't got the confidence on the ball and his control is sloppy. I would have given him a 3 tbh and given Henderson a run since he's had far less game time for England. These friendlies should have been trying out new tatics and players rather than keep going back to the old ones imo. The likes of AL prove that picking players who are on form maybe a better strategy than players who are "better". Imo cleverley isn't any where near on form. 3)Thought Smalling was a 4 since he hasn't got the dominance of command a centre back should have. Whenever Lovren or Fonte play for saints, I'm sure you can agree with me that there is a command that they go forward as a unit and back as a unit. Maybe this is harsh on him since it's tactics rather than him himself but I feel an international player of his quality should have more dominance in the defence third of the pitch. 4)I'm trying to be unbiased with this one but it may be hard. Lallana didn't have a good a game as he did against Chile granted but he showed good vision, crossed the ball well and oozed confidence on the ball. Yes he may have miscontrolled it at times but I felt only 5 was harsh. I would have given him a 6 or a 7. Apologies if I offended you earlier. I'm not looking to argue on this forum just to have a debate. Feel free to criticize any of my points.

Literally can't be arsed with this. It seems every discussion on this forum is shouted down by the likes of you just because you don't care about it. I didn't realise this forum was created for you Turkish. You've said some good things in the past I'll give you that, but why do you shout down things which don't interest you. I was merely saying maybe Lawrenson isn't the worst pundit after all and you interpret this as "Lawrenson must be the best pundit there is".

Please Turkish, show me where I said he was the worst in history? I'd love to know...

Same place everyone else on him comes from. What I wanted him to be is a bit more critical. We lost 1 0 to Germany's C team at home. If that, in your opinion, warrants are worst players (imo cleverly) to have the same rating as AL then fine but I disagree.

Read this article today: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25012040 Rates everyone 5 out of 10 apart from the occasional 6 or 7 out of 10. Thinks AL has an outside chance of the world cup and that because Joe Hart had one good game, all hope is restored. I just don't understand where they get these guys from.

Gibraltar is an over-sea territory whereas the channel islands are crown dependencies. Basically, I believe the channel islands are more controlled by the UK than Gibraltar (which has its own parliament) that it probably wouldn't be allowed.

I think that he is enjoying his football too much here to want to move

System was wrong. Playing 2 up front against a team like Germany leaves the midfield weak. And Sturridge and Rooney simply don't link up at all. Agree about Wilshere - over-rated, as are many of the players tonight. Thought Lallana did OK and has a good chance of going to Brazil.

I would assume he's got a concession ticket and wants to swap so he can get in on an adult ticket.

At one point last Saturday I stopped following the ball and watched what the Saints back four were doing. They were superb. You could almost draw a straight line between the four of them at times, and they moved up as a unit. Which is down to really hard work on the training field. Then I compared it to the shambles of a back four playing for England last night. Saints work hard and have a plan. Couldn't see much of a plan for England last night.

Thought Lallana did OK, showed good touches, and may get another go. Jay R didn't really get into the game. Defence was shocking. Clyne and Shaw are better than both the full backs on show tonight. Joe Hart may be having a wobble but Forster's distribution is terrible.

As a coach, Hoddle was as good as anyone. His organisation of the England team v Argentina in 98 after Beckham was sent off was extraordinary. The way he got Saints playing in the year that he was with us was excellent. Beattie as a central striker, with two wide men. Not that different in formation from how most teams play now. As a man-manager he was a disaster. When he left Saints, all he needed to be was honest, and explain why he wanted to go to Spurs. Instead he was underhand and dishonest. There were stories coming out of the Saints how he was upsetting everyone, and his treatment of MLT is well known. He is arrogant and unbelievably self-unaware. I was among those who did not want him back in 2003.

Think he should be the new club logo tbh. Screw 125 years of history. a big Tunisian man is what we need to portray the right image to the world

Dogs can look up.

What kwsaint junior did not mention was that his 5th birthday party coincided with the last game at the Dell. I did what felt like the right thing at the time and passed on my ticket to a friend. So never actually saw MLTs goal live. Needless to say I have never let him forget it.

NCs ambition for Champions League football not looking so silly now. Feet on the ground time. Got to just keep going and not get carried away. We are a bit good at the moment. Is it just me or are we all starting to lose it?

Believe it or not, I was 5 when we moved to SMS so never experienced the saints playing at the Dell. Which got me wondering, what was it like to watch football there?

I believe this has a close second though considering there were more votes: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?36237-Leeds-v-Saints-MotM&highlight=leeds+saints

tbh I thought it would have been kelvin davis when we played leeds but some tit voted for guly

I assume this has something to do with your penis

I can believe this ngl. It's always the realistic people who are the most unpopular politicians.

Are you ill. You're being sensible today

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