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As Wotte recalculates he realises it was always out of our hands whether we avoid relegation

I think that could be him. presumably GM can put us out of our misery?

don't anyone tell him! on the last day he'll be celebrating while everyone else is miserable. then he'll have to go.

For once Lowe does need defending. he may have made multiple dubious managerial appointments, pssed of the decent appointments he made, failed to invest in the team, got us relegated and signed a load of donkeys as a self-appointed director of football, but he didn't run up the overdraft which is what has put us into admin.

all you tottonions- GET OUT if you haven't already! wake up and realise you live in the pit of the earth..! you only live once and don't spend it in the biggest god darn forsaken hole on the whole south coast. I have the regular misfortune of having to go back and visit my family there. (can you see i'm still not over it).

i can see where you are coming from Benji and it does seem to require an explanation.

yes, this getting at UP has gone a bit far, just because he understands statistics...

I am by no means a Lowe supporter but he does have a point here. Barclays clearly lent to SFC on the understanding it would be paid off after the SISU takeover. When it failed to materialise the bank got edgy and demanded their money back. Now there is an argument that says that there was no definite deal, so the lending was high risk and unjustified. the execs at the time spent the money in the knowledege that new investment was round the corner, and in the mean time the money could be invested in the team. The lending risk was revealed when shareholders put their oars in and refused the deal, and no takeover was forthcoming. Lowe's mistake is not realising that, with the overdraft, was there was no way forward for SFC other than to sell at that point. the execs realise this and resign when it fails. the role SISU played in the accruement of the overdraft deserves further scrutiny. If the SISU bid was a factor in the bank's and SFC's decisions then you could argue that this was some ploy to get SFC over a barrel.

what i don't get is what's changed now from when the SISU bid was rejected. If admin was eventually unavoidable then those with shares should have accepted the bid. what was it back then that made them think SFC was worth more than SISU were offering and where has it gone? someone please explain.

keep the faith guys and girls, keep the faith. as someone in my mid thirties with a lifetime of relegation battles behind me, this is not done and dusted! There may be very little dust left but even if we end up in league 1 it might just be the catalyst for change. maybe we will manage one promotion challenge before the relegation battles begin again. who knows what really lies ahead...

At the beginning of the season he was one of our best players but then got injured. as others have said, he is still coming back from that so I would say reserve judgment for now.

Derby have quite a few influential absentees, so I am hopeful.... not confident but hopeful.... well maybe i have some hope but am not full of it.... actually i can feel my hope already turning to despair but I'm hanging on the that final thread!! Aaaaahhhh!

i thought the same. outsiders are still calling our new 'old' team young! says it all really.

I agree, this clearly demonstrates the Lowe-esque attitude on show here. why can't they see the fans are just desperate, and they are desperate because they are loyal 'true' fans.

was there not a period of wilde-less tenure before the coming of crouch?

All of you that slate NP are clearly off your somethingorothers. He came into a demoralised squad, galvenised the team and grabbed enough points for survival with only the odd judicious loan signing. Even though it was mathematically out of our hands on the last day, it seemed likely that one of the six teams above us would slip up, which is indeed what happened. Now his leicester side are walking league 1. as we all know , even though he is well resourced this is still a good achievement (ask colin calderwood), they are 10 points clear FFS. basically one of the best young managers dropped in our lap, wanted to stay and anyone with half a brain would have done whatever they could to keep hold of him.

can only be Kim 'The Force' as far as i can see..

agree with you 100% about lallana. don't see how you can leave out schneiderlin if he is fit though.

I too think tha Steve you are wide of the mark. We know from 'Arry that Lowe was pressurising him to pick certain players, pressure that he resisted apart from the mansfield game. While Lowe might not be 'picking' the team, he is certain to be influencing team selection.

I think Jan maybe tried to resign after the doncaster game and this was initially turned down by the board. then for some reason there was a change of heart by someone- maybe with the idea that killer could officially join the coaching team as a fan appeasement move. anyone that thinks jan was set up to fail is totally mad IMO, why would anyone set the club up to lose all these matches, because it's in nobodies best interests?

Agree, unfortunately there was a lack of defensive players to justify the plural.

WGS gave us a defensive team that was totally dependent on killer.

can't argue with horne's goal, there are few from such distance that just seem to rifle into the net, out of nothing, forced extra time and a win when we were about to lose at home to lower league opposition. i couldn't believe it. someone put a video on youtube.

i think we're missing the point here. if we are heading for administration then we can't replace JP. For all we know JP may have even tendered his resignation after the donny game, which Lowe has then talked him out of, because he needs someone to keep things ticking over. for now i fear we are stuck with the status quo.

If this is true then it exposes as the biggest mistake the directors made was not recommending the exceptance of the SISU bid. They would have got money for their shares and we could be where coventry are now. once we spent all that money, that was the only way out.