Rebel

Now that Cork has gone and left us (and who can blame him?) can we get a right back in on loan or maybe even buy one!?! Cork going leaves Lloyd James as our only recognised right back in the first team squad - and even then he's an attacking central midfielder learning the position! It's not his fault but its not exactly his best position - and its a weak spot for other teams to attack! Bit like the left back slot if and when Skacel leaves! Lets hope Molyneux is brilliant! How about Phil Ifil from Colchester - he looked the part when he was here on loan? Or a premiership squad player on loan!?

Surman came very close to leaving for Reading in the Summer - and is thinking about leaving in the January transfer window he'd like to stay at Saints but he wants to play in the Premiership and improve as a player if Saints were looking at the play-offs he'd stay until the end of the season (and beyond) if we went up but we're not and he's got an England U21 place to think off and a career to make saying all that I'd be p*ss*d off if he went to another CCC club - even Reading - or a club like Stoke who look like they are coming back down again. If he went somewhere like Fulham or Everton I could understand it Even then its probably better for him to move in the Summer so he can get a pre-season under his belt at his new club same goes for Lallana and Schneiderlin

Surman to Reading Schneiderlin to Arsenal Lallana to Fulham Davis on loan to Newcastle Saga on loan to Reading Skacel on loan to Ipswich Euell/BWP staying at Saints! Seeing players like Jay Simpson and Kieran Gibbs go on loan to CCC rivals yet more 'we were unlucky today it was just on of those days' from Jan or player

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well it looks like the Skates are in freefall so that wish may come true! I just hope we are still there to do the CCC double over them next season!

a fit Thomas would make a real difference - he was superb against Birmingham in the cup once he stopped trying to pass the ball and did the ugly stuff beautifully

we should try and get Baird back on loan if we can! we need some fire and steel in midfield/defence

if you ask me all Saints fans are welcome at St Mary's to see us play Man United I don't really care whether they are season tickets holders, whether they've been to away games only this season or whether like me they've only been two a couple of home games so far this season - or none so far all that really matters to me is that they are Saints fans I say come back to St Marys - like you did for the last game of last season - and lets show people how good Southampton's support can be

No no no and no again! It's not the same city, it would be a policing nightmare, not to mention a transportation disaster - and that's just to start with! Southampton FC is Hampshire FC - Hampshire is the county of Southampton after all Portsmouth is an island full of skate b@stards and mockneys - its not really Hampshire proper is it?!?! so Pompey are going to go bust with their massive debts, massive wage bill and cr*ppy little stadium - too bad lets just sit back and watch from our nice 32,000 + capacity stadium (and hope our finances aren't as bad as some people fear!) as for Bournemouth - they should just be our B team besides what's the point of history - or even football come to that if we are just going to go and merge with our biggest rivals when things get a bit tough what are we - a bunch of Americans! perhaps misguided missile should switch his allegiance to a lesser sport like American Football where teams can just up and move cities whenever they like (and the sooner MK Dons die the better as well)

at 36 I don't think Perry can play two games in a week for a strart - plus I think he's been carrying a minor injury for a while (age again doesn't help) that's the problem with having a defence made up of over 30s and under 20s - there is no one with the necessary mixture of experience, fitnes, agression, energy, youth even to command the back line for us

Crouch was destructive at the board meetings - so that much is true and he was playing Lowe and Wilde off against each other to get a seat on the board right up to the wire Crouch sided with Hone to drive Wilde out of the boardroom and then with Trant opposed Hone, Hoos and Oldknow in virtually every matter until he could force them out Wilde then returned the favour Jones was a yes man to Lowe and then to Hone - unfortunately there are no saviours or good guys amongst the motley crew of directors we've been inflicted with over the last decade or so Hone, Hoos, Oldknow, Crouch, Wilde, Lowe, Cowan, Askham, Richards, Wiseman - they are all as bad as each other - put their egos first and their own interests above those of SFC

Crouch ousted Wilde with the help of Hone Hone and Crouch then fell out and paralysed the club. Hone then tried to sideline Crouch who in return forced Hone and Oldknow out. Wilde then returned the favour ganging up with Lowe to get rid of Crouch

Henri Camara Calum Davenport Olivier Barnard Nigel Quashie Jamie Redknapp possiblly the worst set of players SFC has ever signed reason enought to hate him - let alone for his complete lack of commitment to the job at SFC - and his greed in taking the job and the money - even when he got us relegated

maybe we should try and get him in on loan in January!

with a full St Mary's and the FA cup run in 2003 Saints were the 7th biggest English club on revenue and the 10th on attendance - or something like that I'm sure Steve Grant will have the exact figures somewhere St Mary's was a good move for us - the board at the time failed to spend the extra money it generated properly it went on a squad of nearly 40 journeymen players, 10 years of dividends and bonus payments (we had the highest paid chairman and CEO in the league at one point) and a lot of money paid out in expenses and to other companies for various things now all probably legal - but I bet a fair bit of that money ended up in a small group of peoples bank accounts through various routes Our turnover was £52 million at one point and our player wage bill less than £25 million. Surely a lot of that extra cash could have been used to massively reduce the mortgage on the stadium crowd numbers have gone down because of poor performance on the pitch, a false messiah in Wilde, the standard of the opposition, the crapness of Burley, the blind management of Hone, Hoos and Oldknow and return of Lowe - not too mention the mainaining of ticket prices at a level that's far too high ticket prices at St Mary's are symptomatic of football though - its all about money - and its all for the players nearly all football players earn too much - a journeyman player cam earn £20K+ a week in the premiership whereas the average wage in the CCC is £3K a week (still over £150K a year) -still far too much for clubs without TV money we simply can't afford to lower prices - tickets should be £15 a game - if we did price tickets at that level we'd get nearer 25,000 a week easy two adults and two kids - a family ticket - for £40 is about right -but right now its the best past of £100 I can't afford that! People are falling out of love with football for a lot of reasons - the big 4 monopoly - the foreign owners, the overkill on TV, the celebrity players and their WAGS, the England Team - and Saints are seeing that in their gates! the gap between the PL and the CCC is so big the parachute payments don't come anywhere near bridging it! Charlton have too many bad players - who because they are overpaid they simply can't get rid off - and if they do go bust it will be those players wages that take precdence over any other debts!

maybe we should send him a bill for the lost transfer revenue

Lowe made a lots of mistakes when we got relegated - compounding the mistakes he made that got us relegated Lowe kept Redknapp and his cronies on board - real old school boys - and brought in Woodward and Clifford - who had a new way of doing things - so we were niether one thinhg nor the other - just a real mess! we just kept going down the middle and straight on to the rocks the other big mistake was with the team - we got rid of too many players - but at the same time we didn't get rid of enough we should have either kept the team together and given our all to have gone straight back up - or cleared out the lot and used it as an opportunity to rebuild the club from the ground up instead we let too many key players go - but still kept too many high earners - so we were stuck in a position where we were leaking money - but still had no chance of going up the ship was truly rudderless with Admiral Lowe at the helm! the Burley, Wilde, Hone, Hoos, Oldknow and spending the £7 million we didn't have mess is a whole different story though Lowe should take the blame for appointing Burley - although I think we all thought it was a good decision at the time! Once we were relegated we should have sacked Redknapp and his mates straight away, moved on all of the first team apart from Oakley, Prutton and Baird, put these 3 on new long term contracts, to cut our wage bill right back to manageable CCC levels We then should have brought in players like Brian Howard and Frank Simek on free transfers, and signed other like Hoyte, Kirkland and Le Tallec on loan We then should have brought through our youngsters like Surman, Griffit, Folly, Best, Blackstock, Jones, Mills and Cranie but put them on long term contracts so they couldn't be snatched away by other clubs we also should have appointed a technical or football director, brought in Woodward as Head of Sports Science, Clifford as skills coach and then made Glen Hoddle head coach Huw Jennings should also have been tied down - maybe as football director we also should have kept Wigley in some way shape or from to look aftet the kids - and who know maybe even brought in Poortvliet to replace Georges Prost! as least that way we would have had some real direction and a vision to follow we might not have got promoted in the first two years on parachute payment - but we'd be in a much better position than we are now - financially strong and either pushing for promotion still - or actually promoted see its easy really!

Lowe made a lots of mistakes when we got relegated - compounding the mistakes he made that got us relegated Lowe kept Redknapp and his cronies on board - real old school boys - and brought in Woodward and Clifford - who had a new way of doing things - so we were niether one thinhg nor the other - just a real mess! we just kept going down the middle and straight on to the rocks the other big mistake was with the team - we got rid of too many players - but at the same time we didn't get rid of enough we should have either kept the team together and given our all to have gone straight back up - or cleared out the lot and used it as an opportunity to rebuild the club from the ground up instead we let too many key players go - but still kept too many high earners - so we were stuck in a position where we were leaking money - but still had no chance of going up the ship was truly rudderless with Admiral Lowe at the helm! the Burley, Wilde, Hone, Hoos, Oldknow and spending the £7 million we didn't have mess is a whole different story though Lowe should take the blame for appointing Burley - although I think we all thought it was a good decision at the time! Once we were relegated we should have sacked Redknapp and his mates straight away, moved on all of the first team apart from Oakley, Prutton and Baird, put these 3 on new long term contracts, to cut our wage bill right back to manageable CCC levels We then should have brought in players like Brian Howard and Frank Simek on free transfers, and signed other like Hoyte, Kirkland and Le Tallec on loan We then should have brought through our youngsters like Surman, Griffit, Folly, Best, Blackstock, Jones, Mills and Cranie but put them on long term contracts so they couldn't be snatched away by other clubs we also should have appointed a technical or football director, brought in Woodward as Head of Sports Science, Clifford as skills coach and then made Glen Hoddle head coach Huw Jennings should also have been tied down - maybe as football director we also should have kept Wigley in some way shape or from to look aftet the kids - and who know maybe even brought in Poortvliet to replace Georges Prost! as least that way we would have had some real direction and a vision to follow we might not have got promoted in the first two years on parachute payment - but we'd be in a much better position than we are now - financially strong and either pushing for promotion still - or actually promoted see its easy really!

all I can say is you know what to do - for the good of your club and your nephew have a word with your nephew and his dad

A friend of my brother in law (they are both Skates) supposedly saw Beckham at Fratton Park on Thursday!! if he turns up at Spurs now we'll know it was true I guess! It has been fun at work today winding up all the Pompey and Spurs fans!!! Pointing out the the Skates that he's left them for a bigger club twice now! Asking where Arry's spiritual home is now? Having loud discussions with other Saints fans as to which Pompey players he'll come back for in January - and for the Spurs fans - about which excuses he'll trot out this time!

most people tipped Plymouth, Saints and the three that came up to be the favourites for relegation this season I'm not so sure its that simple - look at Plymouth now! Also we keep talking about our debt - its big but there are a lot of clubs in a worse position than us. We have somewhere between £5 and £7 million of unsecured debt if the worst is to be believed and a £22 million pound mortgage on the stadium Charlton are £20 million in debt, Cardiff are supposedly in debt a lot more than than that!

Fuller, Delap and Higgingbotham seem to be a different players under Pulis than they did under various managers at Saints Fuller looked good and scored the odd great goal at Saints - but much like Camara - more often than not he ran down a blind alley, sometimes off the pitch well wide of the goal with the ball at his feet, and hardly ever passed to a player in a better position Higgingbotham is a good old fashioned centreback - but a very limited left back - no pace - and can't pass - his long diagonal balls forward to nowhere from left back were a major feature of our relegation season Delap - where do I start - a one trick pony with a long throw - altough he's changed it. Now he throws it with a flat trajectory and a lot more pace. But for us he threw it with a high trajectory, but so slowly it seemed to float there until the other teams goalkeeper plucked it out of the air

what we really need our some CCC journeymen players in the mid 20s to give the team some sort of solid base to play off or at least some younger players with potential that have actuallt been blooded - Phil Ifil and Mark Yeates from Colchester in January would be a start Chris Baird on loan tomorrow would be a better one

the reports at the time said both Hertha and Ipswich agreed a fee with Saints - but wouldn't match Skacel's wage demands - partly because they were both offering him less than we are paying him Jim Magilton was reported as saying this was the reason for move to Ipswich not happening based on the stupid wages Hone and Hoos were paying players I can well believe this!

we should bring back Chris Baird tomorrow surely if we pay half his wages - 10K a week - Fulham will pay the other half - after all he's not doing them any good is he