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What that this isn't flu and that drastic means needs drastic measures? The actions of numerous governments, and the £330bn bail out today, and the freeing up of 30,000 hospital beds, suggests it's properly fecking serious. If you mean the numbers, I was referring to last nights leaked report. Don't shoot the messenger pal.

Nice ? Started with the first one. St Jude vinyl now playing. Closer going on next.

Whoa big man, it ain't my story!

Yep, brilliant telly.

Whilst I'm genuinely sorry to hear that, people need to wake up to what this is. The leaked report last night said that the best case scenario would be 250,000 deaths. Quarter of a million, if we're lucky. If we're unlucky, feck knows how many. This ain't flu - drastic means / drastic measures.

Yep. I think a lot of director level people in real world companies won't see anything for some time. In fact, many will put cash in to keep things afloat and keep the staff paid.

This issue goes deeper than just whether kids are in school, but the point is being laboured. I share the view that I find the policy odd, but people with bigger brains than me have made a decision and I'll go with it. I'm not sure what post upon post is achieving. The squabbling on other threads is tedious and it's a shame that this thread has gone down the usual route. Personally I'd like to be able to discuss something as important as this without having petty disputes clogging the thread. If people want to flirt, do it by pm cos it's fecking boring.

Quite. We're at the start of a major crisis and these 2 are going at it like a pair of toddlers. It's pathetic.

Money from where? If sky ain't getting a product the sky money stops flowing. If the punters don't get footy, the sky subscriptions stop.

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The need for schools as daytime child care is for the parents, many of who provide essential services for us all. I get that completely, however, the issue is whether that should come at the inevitable cost of the children widening the spread. It's a tough balance and we can all only hope that we've got it right.

SOG has been like a dog with a bone on this but he has a good point. My little one is still in school. She is in contact with countless kids and adults. She may well bring this disease into our home. My work necessitates me coming into contact with people - my little one going to school exposes those people as well as my family. Of course it'd be a pain if school shuts but we'd find a way, and frankly the bigger picture is best served by her being at home imo. My 18 year old is on her a level year. She wants her studies to finish, exams done so that she can plan for uni. She's in a state of flux. If exams are ditched and uni has to be put off it'd be **** for her and thousands of others, but tough, this is a crisis. It's obvious that we need to stop the spread, and it's obvious that if we continue to adopt the keep calm and carry on attitude, that we won't slow it down. Sure, essential service providers have kids in school but the need for them to have daytime child care is not the only consideration here.

Bless him. Sadly there'll always be a few idiots who refuse to accept what's actually going on. I mean, international governments are all in the business of overreacting and decimating their economies aren't they.

I thought that. It would be gracious of them to do that and if so that's different, but no way can the fa or premier league be selective.

Don't shoot the messenger, and don't judge the size of the iceberg by the size of its tip.

Sky news. Government advisers. On now.

Best case scenario = 250k UK deaths. Fecking hell.

Not often we agree. Very good ?

Financial expectations Hypo. Plenty of people have been banging on about us signing players. We ain't got the cash so the expectation can only be that Gao put it in. That was never gonna happen.

I always have been mate. I've just been realistic about what we can expect from him.

WHO are predicting 3.5% death rate. Flu is 0.2% 17.5 more deadly on WHO figures. Add in that it's seemingly much more contagious. Borders, cities, and countries don't get shutdown because of Flu. The response of many western countries highlights the seriousness of this stuff.

To be fair, my little one is in school. As a kid my understanding is that she could carry and pass on the disease symptom free. Whilst i's great that she's unlikely to suffer if she gets it, I may suffer if I receive it from her, and others I could pass it to. The Norwegian PM said to Norwegian kids "By being home you are helping other people not to be contaminated and get sick. It is important for those who already have a disease, or who are very old." That makes sense. Sending kids out there to catch something to pass to others is monumentally stupid imo. If our approach is correct, pretty much everyone has to be wrong.

Nail. Head. Saved me the bother, thank you.

It's also in the guardian, but it's simple maths based on Merkel predicted 80% infection rates, and the 60% for the herd immunity figure. Obviously we'll have nowhere near the beds we need. Hence the imminent requirement for the over 70's to hide away and not get ill, thus not need a non existent bed.

Not my numbers mate. Merkel suggested 80% infection rate in Germany. We've not been given any predictions here and in truth nobody knows. 60% has been mentioned as the figure needed for the herd immunity model. We're told 1 in 5 will need hospital care. There is no predicted death rate but its 7.3% in Italy, although that's based on confirmed cases and doubtless there's masses of unreported cases which would dilute the body count. Countries are being closed down for good reason. This ain't the cold many still think it is.