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Disagree. He's criticising and challenging people's thoughts, actions, views, opinions in circumstances where others are entitled to such personal feelings without needing to justify or explain. In short, they have feck all to do with him. Sure, he's entitled to say that religion is boll0cks, that he disagrees with the concept or power of prayer, that he thinks anyone who believes in God or something they choose to call God is a nut job. That's cool, I respect his opinion but I wouldn't dream of challenging it or seeking an explanation to views he's entitled to form.

We've ended up with a pandemic flowing from wuhan. Speculation is that it began after a fella ate a dodgy bat. Unless and until there's widespread international acceptance that was the source, I'll keep an open mind.

From, one animal ****ting on an animal that's then eaten? An animal that will likely be washed, skinned and cooked?

Yep. A deferment is not a sacrifice. It's essentially a loan to the club at a time when even footballers would struggle to spend their wages anyway.

What's the solution? Ban prayer or a belief in God because some religious practices are at the extremes? If so, perhaps we should ban democracy cos the elcted Israeli government kill and mistreat Palestinians?

Serious question, do you believe we could be half wiped out cos someone eats an animal covered in sh:t from another animal?

I get that. What do you suggest? Ban prayer for people who have no affiliation with an organised religion, and organised religion,, because some extremists in organised religion act like loons?

2 other points. 1. You fuse together prayer / belief in a god or deity / organised religion. That's wrong. See 2. 2. Are you suggesting that because of your perception (which I don't accept is how any words on scriptures should be interpreted in a modern civilised world) that its OK to demonstrate the MLG type intolerance of other peoples belief in a) the power of prayer for them and/or others. B) their belief in a god (but not necessarily a religion), and c) a religion that they see and practice as non violent?

Don't confuse extreme loons with the general modern message of religion. Because some individuals choose to believe and implement extreme / violent views does not render that religion a violent one. The vicar in my local c of e Church would not advocate or promote violence, but that doesn't mean that some nutter of the same faith could walk into a shopping centre with an AK47 based on his own interpretation of the words in the testaments.

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Nobody should ever condone acts of violence. I don't condone it in the apparent name of religion any more than I do t condone violence for any other reason.

First part. What you highlight is the opposite of live and let live. You highlight intolerance and an unwillingness to accept and respect other people's right to their own beliefs. Instead, the likes of MLG feel the need to challenge and shout down other people's beliefs. That's intolerance, and disrespect of the views of others - nobody is asking him to accept or agree with others, but there's absolutely no need for his challenge and criticism. Live and let live - believe in what you believe in (or don't) and leave others to their own beliefs. Second part. Noted. I don't subscribe to any organised religion and personally find large chunks of the bible far fetched. However, other people believing that stuff has no impact on me, and if it helps them, then good luck to them.

So sorry to hear this, my thoughts are with you and your good lady. Her willingness to carry on working for the benefit of others is amazing.

Amen (pun intended). If prayer to an intangible deity brings and gives comfort in real life, I struggle to understand how any person objects to it, particularly where it has zero impact on them. I suppose control freaks operate in a variety of ways.

Yep. I'm still waiting for him to explain how my elderly neighbour praying for others not to suffer impacts upon him. Apparently it does somehow, and all of us.

Of all the pointless "debates" on this site, this is the most pointless. Belief in an intangible deity is a personal thing. That's the nature of a belief. It doesn't have to be justified or explained. It has nothing or do with anyone other than the person who holds that belief. Sure, there's no proof in the existence of the deity, its a belief. Religion, on an organised basis is somewhat different. It's a subscription to a deity of someone elses choosing, and often a belief in a scripture and sometimes an apparent prophet. If someone chooses to believe that stuff, that's a matter for them. It's possible to believe in a God that's not inposed by religion or a scripture. Millions do. It's a matter for them. If people like the congregation and support of a church, temple, mosque, whatever where they speak to what they believe is their God, then its a matter for them. All opinions contrary to the above come from people who believe that they have a right to express an opinion on others personal beliefs, such beliefs having nothing to do with them and no impact upon them. That attitude says more about those people, than the people or organisations they criticise. Live and let live people.

If so, it's hardly the great gesture people are making it out to be. "Boss, the world's in a mess and I ain't playing or training, so I'll have just £90k a week for the next few months, you can square me up for the other £10k a week when this ****'s blown over". Wow, the height of generosity.

Take it as I put it mate.

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Mate, I'm not willing to waste my time debating with you. You're clearly an idiot.

I've not seen anyone think isolation will end it. It's going nowhere, but responsible people do their bit to help slow the spread.

Don't be obtuse. "Normal death" count is irrelevant. Its the covid deaths I referred to, you know that. Take your chances pal, but believe it or not, we're not all selfish cvnts willing to take our chances and in doing so potentially infect others.

What a load of ******. Your point is what exactly, just that the "best time" to get this has passed, and that like any sane person you don't want this stuff either. Well thanks for the insightful opinion. As to the "facts". There's only one relevant fact, namely that if I get this I may or may not die. I'll do what I can to avoid that if its all the same to you. Sure, the NHS may or may not be under more pressure if / when I do, but we may also know a bit more how to treat it. Today 938 people have died in the UK. Field hospitals are being built as we sit here, including one not a million miles from here. The NHS have commandeered an ice rink to site outside Portsmouth for storage purposes. Despite all that, idiots like you still suggest thay there's a benefit to getting this stuff. Perhaps, for once, dial down the nonsense and just accept that other people's right to be sensible should be respected.