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There's only one interpretation of your refusal to say that you're an equal opportunities supporter of the mass killings of innocent civilians.

Nah, you're rowing backwards.

Better than Paris. That's hideous. Anyways, use a cab or the metro, small and well formed.

You said that killing 20 people in Gaza to kill one alleged low level alleged Hamas operative was acceptable. Those are Muslim deaths. It's a fact. There's no accusation - it's you and now Weston who've thrown the slurs around. What you are continually refusing to do is answer my hypothetical Ireland question. Those would have been non Muslim deaths. If you would have been ok with innocent Irish people being slayed to kill alleged low level IRA operatives then we've established that you're equally opportunities in your acceptance of innocent deaths. Only you can clarify your position.

I vote Stephens will be at CB. Bednarek benched. KWP and Manning back in. Something mental like that.

Question - Does war justify killing 20 innocent people for 1 low level target? Your - According to Shari'a law, there are no "innocent" people once a fatwah has been declared. FTF and I both interpreted that the same way.

It's not just me who interpreted your words in the way that I did. If you want to make a point, perhaps be clearer and less flippant. You're better than throwing around daft allegations of racism Weston. In any event, Israel are an apparently civilised western nation and should be judged accordingly.

@Lord Duckhunter what's the answer? Were Irish lives as expendable as Muslim lives?

That's the point. Your point seemed to be that the Israeli killing of Palestinians was ok cos the Palestinians had issued a Fatwa. If that wasn't your point, wtf was your point?

Stop avoiding questions. Would you have been ok with Britain doing to Ireland what Israel have done to Gaza? Yes or no. Would you have been ok with Britain regularly killing 20 innocent Irish people to kill one alleged low level IRA operative? Yes or no.

If you want to look back in time, should we have wiped out the IRA? Given that you feel that what Israel are doing to Gaza is ok, presumably you would have been ok seeing Dublin, Derry etc, flattened? The infrastructure and churches destroyed? Loads of innocent people taken out in the process? Ask yourself why we didn't do that. Ask yourself if we now have relative peace on Ireland. Then ask yourself whether Israeli actions will achieve peace or something else.

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Or Israeli's.

You're lucky you weren't in Gaza mate, the Israeli's have proper weapons and clearly don't give a fuck who they kill to get at the Hamas cake boy. Anyways, you previously said that killing innocent people as collateral damage is ok, when Muslim are being killed.

I appreciate it's easier to change the subject than to try to justify your views on the murderous Israeli regime, but I ain't playing that game. If you want to discuss past conflicts, start another thread.

What a great contribution to an Israel/Gaza thread, it's really added something to the debate about what's happening in April 2024. You're wrong for what it's worth.

It's 2024 Alex, and we're trying to discuss Israel/Gaza. Please keep up.

Manning, I think, is largely following daft orders. You could see from his 1st pre season game that he was doing things differently to others (ie drifting inside) and that will have come from playing for RM before and knowing what he's expected to do. He's also had some pretty non existent cover in front of him lots of the time. Played as a conventional left back, with some hardworking cover ahead of him, I think he'd be decent enough. Adams though has been shite. If he could finish, we'd be knocking on the door of the top 2. His inadequacies are that significant imo - he's really cost us. As for Charles, the Liverpool cup game was him in a nutshell. If I was in RM's shoes, I'd have no trust in him either.

Sam played 90 for the u-21's last night, ditto Dibling. It'll be the usual roll of the dice today.

That comment is one hell of a stretch. Wilcox was headhunted by one of the world's biggest clubs, and nobody can realistically blame SR for him wanting to take that opportunity. I can't disagree with the rest of your post though.

Your views are unacceptable in my view. You bang on about the non anti semitic soggy being anti semitic, but let's be honest Duck, you're not on any moral high ground with a lot of your comments. Anyways, I'll go no further as I'll leave the focus on personalities to people who choose to deflect. Your view that killing 20 innocent people to kill one (alleged) low level Hamas operative is deplorable in my opinion. Frankly, you've got to be a bit of a cunt to think the Israeli actions are right. You didn't answer my hypothetical question about the low level IRA operative. Presumably you feel that wiping out a building full of people to take out the cake boy in that situation would have been ok? Or is that kind of behaviour only ok against Muslims?

Exactly. Hamas issuing a fatwa against an invading force apparently gives licence to Israel to kill anyone and everyone. Weston's got lost down his own rabbit hole on this one.

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