Wasn't Santos your brainchild or something? Thing is, i'm not all for the 'play for fun' mentality, no-one like to lose, no-one likes to watch the same useless player let you down week in week out. If i am playing a game of anything, i want to win, or bust a gut (usually pull a calf) trying to. Not go for a beer at the end and say, oh well, we lost 6-0, but at least it was better than last week.