Lord Duckhunter

Spurs 1-0 Saints Villa 1-0 Sunderland Norwich 0-1 Villa WBA 0-1 Wigan Wigan 1-0 Swansea Sunderland 1-0 Southampton Norwich 1-0 WBA QPR 0-1 Newcastle Would mean last day Norwich 41 Newcastle 40 Sunderland 40 Villa 40 Saints 39 Wigan 38 Forget about the 1-0, but the results aren't that far fetched. If Wigan beat Villa last day and we will need a point home to Stoke. Ok, we'd have taken that in Oct, but not 3 games ago.

Want QPR to win. However unlikely it is if they're still not down with 2 games to go Newcastle going to Loftus Road looks a hell of a lot harder. West Ham away, Arsenal at home and QPR on the back of 2 wins is a pretty tough run in.

Are people saying this is why Shaw's out? Doesn't really make sense . Utd sign Wilfred Zaha and then let him stay at Palace, but agree to sign Shaw but don't let him play for Saints?

Does that include our players, because AL and GR go down pretty easy and J Rod clearly dived at Villa?

Wigan's next 2 are the big ones. WBA and Swansea, win them and it's going to get tight. The thing that makes me a bit more at ease is Villa-Wigan on the last day, as they both cant get 3 points. I've just got a feeling that they'll both need 3 to overtake us, so we should be ok. If you look at the fixtures there's a lot of sides playing each other, so even if Villa win the next 2, they're against Sunderland and Norwich.

Fox was unprofessional. The game was lost and he was already on a yellow,diving in like that was just what I call a "look at me" challenge. He was just trying to show the crowd how "committed" he was. Selfish, headless challenge when he knows Shaw is struggling. I've defended Fox a bit on here, I don't think he's quite as bad as people make out, but that was indefensible.

Glen Campbell

He hasn't played well "in the majority of games he's played in" at all. He's flattered to deceive most games and been like a petulant child in others. We keep being told he'll come good, but I'm not convinced. Tim Vickery said all along that he wouldn't make it in England and after a season he looks right. Yesterday summed him up perfectly. A few decent touches here and there, wayward shot, shiete delivery from corner, giving the ball away and then acting like a baby because another player had the check the chase him back and hassle him/foul him.

The FA have not taken any offense committed 2 seasons prior and in another country into account before in any other disciplinary action. I'm sure if they feel the case is exceptional then they should do, however they set a president with Defoe that biting wasn't exceptional. Therefor I feel that the FA are making this up as they go along and can quite understand Liverpool's issue with this.

I must have missed the Defoe yellow card thread after he bit a fellow professional. Perhaps someone can explain the massive difference between yellow and 10 games because im struggling

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There was a precedent in that Di Cannio got 11 games for very similar offense. A lot of Liverpool fans are rightly upset that Defoe did the same thing and only got a yellow card, with the FA refusing to over rule the Referee saying it was not an exceptional offense ( as per Ben Thatcher).

Where do they stand on upgrading Season tickets, as they're not meant to be transferable. I know it's a long way off, but I'm away for the first game of the season.If it's a home game my older boy (23) could use my nippers (14) S/T. Do they allow that?

Peter Hitchens was on TV the other day saying much the same. He said we are witnessing national decline rather than a down period in the economic cycle.

You're right, it should be spontaneous. I always remember going to the Sheff Utd game and my nipper asked me if I would be on the pitch if we stayed up. "On the pitch, not bloody likely" I told him "I've seen us in cup finals, in Europe, in the top flight for 30 years, if you think I'm running on the pitch because we stayed out of Div 3, no way". Come the final whistle and I'm off, straight on the pitch jumping around, close to tears, whilst my 10 year old sits in the stand embarrassed by his Dad.

I accept what you're saying, but some pundits and papers seem to have selective memory. I don't recall such a circus over Defoe biting Mascherano, so this is clearly down to the individual and the fact it was Suarez. What I find hard to understand is that Terry got 4 games for racial abuse and he got 8, Defoe got a yellow and he got 10 games. It's not easy to defend someone as ignorant and unpleasant as Suarez, however the FA have shown a complete and utter lack of consistency so I can quite understand why Liverpool supporters are unhappy about the punishment. You can be appalled by the offense and still think the punishment is wrong.

I bet the BBC Newsnight team are desperately grubbing around for another lead story for tonight.

A pitch invasion if we're already safe is mickey mouse behaviour. lap of honour, much more classy and appropriate.

And my point is that Saints fans sang songs about BWP and that "incident". Liverpool fans are no different than supporters of every club, one eyed and willing to forgive most things that their players have done. We seem to have forgiven a bit of spot fixing from one of our greats. Yes, the Hillsborough stuff makes the club slightly different, but I'm pretty sure had 96 Saints fans died in one of our 80's semi finals we'd want to get to the bottom of the cover up. Are you seriously trying to say that had Rickie Lambert done the same thing as Suarez (unlikely, but then Defoe did it), our supporters would be any different? No chance, it'll be exactly the same.

Raphael Honigstein's just been on Talksport. He said that Dortmund and Bayern were good sides and Schalke decent, but he said the rest of the league were very poor.

Bit like Saints fans were over BWP?

How difficult is it to grasp the unfairness of one player getting a yellow card and one player getting a 10 game ban, for exactly the same offense. The Defoe case was not considered on it's merits, the FA deemed that biting did not come under their exceptional circumstances rule and therefore the ref's decision stood. Surely you can see the unfairness in that, compared to the exceptional circumstance that led to a 10 game ban, rather than the standard 3. I'm pretty sure people on here would if, it was a Southampton player whose punishment was so much greater than a Spurs player.

Let's look at the facts. Defoe bit someone and Suarez bit someone. Dofoe's bite was seen and he was given a yellow card. The FA decided that it was not an exceptional circumstance and therefore did not "re referee" the game and allowed the punishment to stand. Suarez's bite was not seen by the official, so faced a charge. The standard punishment for violent conduct is 3 games, unless exceptional circumstances. My opinion is that biting is either exceptional or it's not. It cant be exceptional for Suarez but not Defoe.

Do you think Defoe got off lightly by only receiving a yellow card and do you believe that had Suarez been give a yellow card the FA would have left it at that? Why did John Terry get 4 games for racial abuse and Suarez 8?

You cant run a sustainable disciplinary regime without taking previous punishments for the same incident into account. How would we feel is Gaston got a 10 game ban and somebody else gets just a yellow card for exactly the same offense. It is a disgusting thing to do, but it's disgusting when an England player does it as well as a foreigner. I can see Suarez getting extra because of past behaviour, but 10 games is well OTT bearing in mind the precedent the FA set with Defoe.