Lord Duckhunter

He's got a valid point though. Someone on Radio 4's Westminster hour said that they wouldn't extend civil partnerships to straight people because of the cost involved regarding pensions. They didn't expand on the point, does anyone know what the extra cost would be, I presume it'll be around your Civil partner getting a widows/widower pension, whereas a living in sin partnership doesn't qualify. She did make the point that civil partnerships would be attractive to straight couples who don't want or believe in marriage because of the financial benefits, can anyone shed any light on it? I do find it rather ironic that this is being pushed through as a equality issue, whilst denying Turkish his civil partnership.

Even though he's a skate I think some of you are being a bit harsh on pulis. Took the club from near the bottom of the championship to FA cup final, Europa league and something like 6 seasons in the top flight . Thats a pretty decent record and you would have to be over 40 to remember their last spell in the top league. Not great football but I personally wouldn't want a league of arsenal clones. Overcoming hoof specialists is part and parcel of playing in this league. Maybe it was time for a change and pulis had taken them as far as he could, but Charlton supporters said the same about curbishly .

My nipper isn't going to be able to make as many games this season as last, my eldest wants to go to the games that he misses (as he cant afford a S/T himself) . Do you know if they allow you to pay game by game to upgrade child's season ticket to an adult ticket? Has anyone done this?

I thought this one was ok at Spurs and fair play to the lads that started it and kept it going thorough half time, but its getting on my tits now. If we're going to sing about Pompey, it's got to be WTFILN.

I heard a part of the debate a while back on the Daily Politics. The c of e part of the legislation is around the fact that the Church is established in this country, that's why C of E has to be treated differently under the law, don't ask me why. My view is those opposed against on religious grounds both individually and as religious bodies are picking and choosing which parts of their religion they want to be "morally" opposed to. The church do marry divorcees , they marry adulterers, in fact isn't the queen Supreme Governor of the Church of England. So her adulterous son will inherit that role, how can they then maintain their stance on gay marriage with him as supreme governor. The only flaw in the whole thing is that straight couples cant have a civil partnership and by leaving this flaw in the Government has allowed people opposed to take a stand. Yet again Cameron has taken a good worthwhile change and messed up the nuts and bolts of it. At the end of the day we would be a very strange country if we allowed gays to have sex, but banned them from getting married.

Rip, found this on u tube, great even without Morrison.

Do you think stright people should have the right to a civil partnership?

I see swivel eyed loons are not just consigned to the right, or is foaming mouth loons more appropriate?

Isabel Hardman and David Aaronovitch were on the Marr show yesterday, neither are Swivel eyed loons, but both said that Gove is one of the nicest men in politics and was a pleasure to deal with.

"Out of his depth", Really? He's taken his party from a tiny base and is rattling the establishment and driving the agenda. I know oh so clever people like you don't like it, but far from being out of his depth he's doing fantastically well at what he's paid for. One of the reasons I hope UKIP top the Euro elections is to watch smug people like you foam at the mouth.

I don't think the reporter did anything wrong, although I wish people would stop with the paxman act. It's just so boring now, this attack dog approach to political interviewing. These wannabes should watch Andrew Neil to learn how its done. There is an anti English attitude from some in Scotland. NF was spot on when he said today that had Ukip supporters had heckled salmond like that and told him to "**** off back to Scotland you sweaty bastard" the BBC would be all over it like a rash. Showering the protesters with insults and calling them yobs. At the end of the day Ukip is Ukip not EIP , they have every right to point out the flaws in salmonds argument and Nigel has every right to turn up there without being abused.

At the risk of being sworn at, I would like to point something out. Harold Wilson Ted Heath Jim Callaghan Maggie Thatcher John major I believe every single one went to a grammar school. None were born with a silver spoon in their mouth and all rose to the highest elected office in the land. That is 33 years of state educated pm's, what an example of the positive effects state education can have on mobility. Yet now the last generation of grammar school educated students has gone, what are we left with. A privately educated ellite , who surround themselves with clones and doubles of themselves. The crossmans of the world certainly made a difference , they turned the clock back to an era where gentlemen ruled and us peasants knew our place.

Classy. Why don't you answer the question instead of throwing insults around? Why is social mobility so low in this country, it cant all be the fault of the Tory party?

Well whose fault was it then? let me guess, the Nasty Tory Party. Why is social mobility so low in this Country, and why was it higher when we had Grammar Schools?

Perhaps we should have taught them correctly in the first place, when they were at school.

Well 3 ex Chancellors ( one Labour, 2 Tory) disagree with you. All 3 have said they are in favour of withdrawal, I would have thought they would know a bit more about the international markets than you or I.

Guy who broke the story, Tony Evans on Brazil breakfast show now. Says NC sharp and ambitious. Said a couple of premier league owners have been singing his praises , said mahwhinny speaks very highly of saints. Said trust are re thinking their approach. Ended up by saying "Southampton face a very uncomfortable summer" Don't shoot the messenger, just repeating what he said. But he was guy who broke story

Good point, I never really looked at it that way. " set in their 50's ways" is quite a good description of my parents. Although they were young, mum had me at 17 in the early 60's, she was from a very old fashioned family, my father although young had elderly parents for those times, his mum being 40 when she had him. I guess what I was trying to say is that at 50 odd im a lot "younger" than 50 year olds were in 1960. The outpouring of creativity was amazing , but did anything change for the over 30's , cause they sure look old fashioned in that apple building clip.

In what way does my sentance " Governments of the past 20 years" imply that it is all labours fault. I just find it rather bizare that we have million young people out of work, yet have to rely on immigrants to fill gaps in the job market. Surely there is only a handful of professions where it would just not be possible to recruit British people. I just do not except that shortages are caused by people not wanting to be nurses. I belive there are plenty of Yong adults that have the empthy and the willingness to enter the nursing profession, they just lack the education to do so. My mrs went back to night school to get the a levels needed to do her midwifery degree. Her schooling was so bad she left with no qualifications at all, and yet now she has a rewarding and sucsessful career as a midwife. She only managed to acheive this with her own drive and determination, but also because my wage could support the family. How many others are there like that, who have fallen through the cracks but aren't so lucky in having a spouse that can afford that?

Lets see who are the idiots at the next European elections. The euro fanatic lib/dems, the pro European labour party or the Euro sceptic torys and anti european Ukip. last time the vote was Tory, Ukip ,labour, lib Dems in that order. This time it could be Ukip, Tory, labour, lib Dems. For all your waffle about idiot wings and the like, the order at European elections is defined by how euro fanatic you are. The most pro European partys get the least votes.and I've no doubt the same thing will happen next year. The country is heading out of the union, its just a question of when, not if. The reason we are heading out is because the establishment did not tell us the truth, did not get the publics approval for the transfer of powers over the years and dictated to,in stead of taking the British public with them. The genie is out of the bottle now and there's no putting it back in.

I always thought that NC would eventually buy out the Trust, raising the money through other investors. One thing for sure is that letting the club wither on the vine and eventually go down can not be an option for the family, unless they're complete and utter morons. The way I look at it, their options are thus; 1. Let NC continue and follow his "vision". 2. Sell up and now must be the time for maximum profit 3. Follow Fulham, Stoke , WBA model and remain a midtable Premier league club bringing in a steady income, but never over stretching themselves chasing a dream. Good seasons, we may have a good cup run, bad seasons a relegation fight. All 3 options are attractive in their own way and would certainly be better than we ever could of dreamed of 5 years ago. My personal choice would be a NC led consortium buys out the family . The Fulham option is basically a return to Rupert without that plum at the helm, but I don't blame anyone for wanting that option. I've no idea what's actually going on, but if I had to wager on it I would say that the family don't want to fund NC's exotic dream and he's not prepared to have his ambitions tempered. The next level is very very expensive, Villa spent millions and couldn't do it. Unless NC is planning on developing a Chelsea Village type complex , waterfront development and retail outlets, I really cant see how the family are expected pour limitless funds into a project which is a massive gamble, with no guarantee of any sort of success. What is certain is that the next level can not be achieved by using money generated solely by the Football club.

The Lib/Dems really do have a problem with pledges, first tuition fees now this.

I would say it's a logical conclusion of poor education and a lack of joined up thinking from Governments the past 20 years. We have a million young people out of work and we have shortages in the NHS. If, as the post you replied to said, Labour made an effort to attract Nurses/Doctors from overseas why didn't they make a particular effort to educate and persuade British students to become Doctors and Nurses? Then when the overseas people left, we would have the young people with the skills to fill those roles. 1 million youth unemployed, a hole in the NHS workforce, yet it's all the fault of an immigration clampdown?

The Tory faithful were blinded by "Dave" , they wanted a Tony Blair clone. They ****ed up by binning DD

Watching that clip takes me back to an interview I heard with John Lennon in which he claimed the swinging sixties was a myth for most people. He said there was a few hundred hip people , but the rest of the country were still "squares". If you look at the people in the clip he has a point. Bloke with a pipe, bowler hatted types and the police look like something out of the 1950's. The 60's passed a lot of people by, my old fella said to me he was too busy working and raising us to enjoy it. Looking at the clip of the crowd and it does seem that the ordinary man is so much more chilled and not so uniformed nowadays.