Katalinic

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No, but he gambled our Premiership status by not speculating transfer fees and wages on better players - instead paying low wages to mediocre players but still selling off our crown jewels one by one. Lowe and Ridsdale - different methods, same results.

Who cares if he is in the top 20 or not. All I know is that he put together one of the finest Saints teams of all time - the like of which we have not seen since. They were brilliant to watch.

Has slippery Askham, the Monty Burns of Southampton, been seen at SMS this season?

Lol, no wonder Storrie-teller pretended he didn't know who owned the land around the stadium at the skate fans forum last night. Seems to me from that interview that Al-Fahim is saving face in terms of selling for a profit but the underlying vibe is that that Storrie has p***ed him off - if all of this is true then they cannot re-develop without Al-Fahim agreeing/being bought out. If Al-Fahim has shafted them then as he says, Praise be To God

http://www.portsmouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=173838 Comedy Gold - I particularly liked: "PS was asked if there were any more financial surprises. He said no. He was then asked who owns the land around FP. He said he did not know". PS in selective knowledge shocker.

I didn't realise how Bristolian Lloyd was (heard him interviewed on Solent just prior to Southend) so I can't help reading his reply with a Bristol accent. On a slight tangent, has anyone noticed how much the guy at SMS who does the announcing of the car park being closed to home supporters after the game sounds like Jason Dodd? Have a listen next home game.

I see you have stopped referring to AP as "Pas Dieu" - what a difference a couple of wins makes eh Art? On the Gillett subject he was the one of the few players I really wanted us to keep this for this season but has been disappointing when he has played - the loan will do him good and it is make or break for him when he returns to Saints I feel. He hasn't been treated badly though, he simply hasn't been up to scratch this season and doesn't deserve a place currently.

Stig Johansen

FA Cup away a couple of seasons ago.

I wouldn't want to see them go bust but the guy in this vid kind of sums up how I feel about their plight.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/pompey-face-ultimatum-over-unpaid-taxes-1796879.html Owing agents and clubs money is one thing but if this is true then they really could be up s*** creek - the HMRC don't mess about when it comes to money that they are owed. They are emotionless and wouldn't hesitate to wind the club up.

I agree and you also need to look at what AP inherited off the pitch. Yes he ultimately will be judged by his performance on the pitch but the guy had no coaching staff and no scouting network - people often assume all scouts do is look at potential players but their core role is looking at future opponents/tactics etc. He has had to put all of this together as well as coaching the side, bringing in players etc. It will take time but it is better to do it properly than any quick fix. The strategy this season is clearly to bring in a few loans and stay up - why bring in high waged players in what to all intents and purposes is a "dead season" - next season I would expect to see a little more money spent on Championship quality players who will be more willing to come than they would have been at the start of this season. As long as we stay up - which we will - then the first part of the longer strategy will have been completed.

100% agree, I posted this on the main board thread: Storrie admits he was close to resigning last week. But he has decided to stay on after the Fratton Park fans chanted his name during Saturday's 1-0 defeat by Everton. He added: "It has been hard and frustrating. "But when the crowd sings your name, it makes you think 'Blimey, that doesn't happen to many chief executives'. "It made me feel quite humble." Or to put it another way: "It wasn't hard and frustrating signing off the inflated wages of the past few years without raising concerns as CEO to the future viability of the club, but now we are in the s*** it was really nothing to do with me you know. But when the crowd sings your name it does make you think how naive they really are and besides who else is going to pay a chancer like me nearly £1.5 million a year. It made me feel like buying a big boat at Hamble"

Storrie admits he was close to resigning last week. But he has decided to stay on after the Fratton Park fans chanted his name during Saturday's 1-0 defeat by Everton. He added: "It has been hard and frustrating. "But when the crowd sings your name, it makes you think 'Blimey, that doesn't happen to many chief executives'. "It made me feel quite humble." Or to put it another way: "It wasn't hard and frustrating signing off the inflated wages of the past few years without raising concerns as CEO to the future viability of the club, but now we are in the s*** it was really nothing to do with me you know. But when the crowd sings your name it does make you think how naive they really are and besides who else is going to pay a chancer like me nearly £1.5 million a year. It made me feel like buying a big boat at Hamble"

I would hate to drive what you are driving then. The overall stopping distances in modern vehicles with ABS are nowhere near that. In a modern vehicle with ABS at 100 you would stop before you got out of the penalty area (to use your analogy) - this is a fairly standard test for anyone who has been on advanced driver training. The bigger issue is being able to react quickly enough by recognising proactively the potential issues ahead. The stopping distances in the Highway Code haven't been updated for many years and are antiquated at best. P.S. This debate may be better off moved to another forum as it clearly has nothing to do with post match analysis!

I have a feeling that you are decidedly a "Guinness glass half empty" kind of chap.

I think that was my fave away game although seeing us beat Liverpool 3-2 away was special. An honorary mention to a 1-0 win at Newcastle and 4-1 win at Wolves also.

Think that should read "minority of football fans with lack of pateince and lack of understanding of what the manager inherited in getting restless after no wins in 8 games shocker"

Fans of East Stirlingshire think Alex Ferguson was terrible in his tenure there. Or to put it another way, comparing a manager's success or lack of at another club to our own is irrelevant as every club and situation is unique. The only fact is that AP should be judged solely on his long term performance at SFC.

I am not sure it is. Was reported at the time.

No, but things are not as simple as you are making out. There are more fundamental issues as to why we have started the season poorly than AP playing 4-5-1. It will take time and patience to sort this mess out - a mess that is largely (but not exclusively) down to the decisions taken by Lowe during his tenures.

Pretty much everything.

For once I agree with you. When you strip out from your posts the usual snide remarks about the people in your "circle of hate" you sometimes make some good points. Keep it up.

An unbelieveable situation really - you can see why we are such a shambles and how much work there is to do at all levels in the club.