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Awesome - what a cracking bit of oratory. :smt038

Rory Delap probably earns more than Obama FFS.

It reminds me of grannies.

I'm a professional messageboard poster

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Hehehe.

Anyone got any Clarky-cat?

"A pot plant" - Lol. Why do I have an image of Storrie, Del-Boy stylee, obtaining a job-lot of pot plants from somewhere. The flipside of this is that I hope no one's mummy's day is spoilt.

Are you a pilot then? I thought you were about 17. No offence, I just did.

Absolutely, it's definitely open to challenge. Any transaction in the 12 months preceding the date of administration is, IIRC.

Maybe, although I don't think that would work. I seem to remember a sugestion that Chanrai had paid a tax bill at some point in the last month or so. Maybe this was done by way of a loan. More likely than a donation. Most lenders don't own 90% of a shower of **** football team

Why are people getting so excited about this incredible revelation that Chanrai has charges registered at Cos House - of course he fecking does. And if you think a couple of ex-football players will have anything intelligible to say on the subject I suggest you'll be disappointed!

The Barclays thing is a massive red-herring. Forget it. As I said above, the second security would have to have been preceded by a fresh loan in the prior 21 days. It's not a "normally"; it's an absolute or your charge would become an equitable charge only, not a legal charge.

I agree. In fact it's not even a question of the court considering whether HMRC can proceed or not. The company will enter admin and the hearing will be stayed - no consideration necessary. Simple as that.

No. The petition hasn't been granted. It's stayed. A winding up hasn't commenced. If it was that easy to cause a company to cease disposing of its assets, you could make all kind of mischieve by going around serving winding up petitions on people. The questions that will need to be addressed is whether or not Chanrai's security can be challenged inder the insolvency act or whether the sale of Fratton Park can. For the former, it would depend if it was a "Preference" (as defined in the Insolvency Act). I think this is unlikely, as on the face of it Chanrai lent them money so granting him the security wasn't treating him in any way unusually and was a perfectly reasonable commercial act. For the latter question, it will depend whether the sale was at an "undervalue" or not. If it was at book value then, again, it's probably ok.

Haven't read the intervening pages so I'm sorry if this has been covered but.... You can only register a charge within 21 days of its creation so there must have been another loan in December or it was suddenly decided that security was needed (if the latter is the case then that security could well be subject to challenge). Whatever... anyone who still maintains that Chanrai's involvement is a coincidence and nothing to do with Arkadi Gaydamak needs their head examined. It is also inevitable that this administration, assuming there is one, will be massively messy.

"Aiming" for the play-offs and setting the play-offs as the minimum benchmark are very different things, as you well know Mr Fry.

I'd be up for some "May Madness" this year please if you're reading Saints!

Yeah, but everyone knows that if you draw an away game against a team lower in the league than you are it's time to sack the manager.

Yes, that is exactly the point... except that in fact it's worse. The stadium is also not owned by PCFC Ltd (according to recent reports). The assets therefore seem to be: some player registrations goodwill a "golden share" (suspended) and, er....

EDIT - I assumed this was a joke about the show. If it in fact was a reference to someone suffering from Alzheimer's then I withdraw the laughs. No offence intended.

I agree with this. HMRC won't cut a deal out of principle. Gaydamak and Chanrai are in a stronger position then a creditor usually finds themselves in because they own assets (subject to any finding to the contrary!) that the insolvent company needs, or at least wants, in order to be viable in the future.

He's not compelled to pay for it, but the reality is that no one would take it on without a guarantee of payment from something/someone more financially robust, shall we say, than PFC!

I like Farage. Obviously this sort of thing is a publicity stunt but when you see him on a forum like Question Time he is one of only a few politicians who actually bother trying to answer the question put to them. You might not agree with his views but if more politicians were like him things would be better IMO.