londonsaint1604

As if the scenes at the Doncaster game weren't embarassing enough.

In that case I think you should save your protest until after the game, because no matter who it is directed at, the negative atmosphere it will generate is bound to affect the players.

Oh right, so 'someone on TUI is going on about' something, therefore we have conclusive proof that Lowe is deliberately destroying the club for fun. You really do sound like a complete idiot sometimes.

It is important though isn't it? The alternative has to be better than what we have at the moment otherwise it would be a bit pointless replcing them.

Match abandoned in the 2nd half due to floodlight failure, with saints 1-0 up.

I think we'll beat them 2-0 again

I suppose that's true. I don't actually think we've been unlucky in most games, we've just defended badly and not created enough chances or taken those that we did create. Evidently we rode our luck against Barnsley but we won the game so it can't have been entirely down to luck. Holmes put in a good cross and Mcgoldrick made it count with a good header, there was nothing lucky about that.

That is true to be fair, however there have been games where we've had chances but failed to score just as Barnsley did against us. In the 2nd half against Wolves and also Charlton we played well but just couldn't score, for example, and conceding late goals against Wednesday and Reading at home could also be considered unlucky. I just don't think it's fair to dismiss a decent away win as purely down to luck. We took our chance, they didn't. Btw Stanley, apologies for the patronising **** comment, it was meant to be affectionate ;-)

You could also say that we took our chance and they didn't, therrefore we won

Good grief, you are a patronising c**t aren't you? I didn't think our 'discussion' would descend into petty name calling but there you go (and 'numbnuts'? who the **** are you, Lee Ermey?) Ok then, for the sake of argument, I'll concede that the win at Barnsley was a fluke and we didn't deserve the 3 points. My point is that you can say the same about a lot of results in football, in fact it is subjective as to whether any given team deserved to win a given match, hence my point that Cardiff were flukey to beat us on the first day. Now, st Marco uses the flukey win at Barnsley to implicitly criticise Jan, because 'he has lost 50% of our games and would have lost at Barnsley if we hadn't been so lucky.' However, I would say that we have been unlucky in other games but st Marco doesn't mention this in Jan's defence. That is a double standard. I said there was nothing flukey about the win because I don't think anything can simply be described as flukey in football. You make your own luck, as the cliche goes. If John Terry had been able to score a simple penalty, Chelsea would have won the Champions League last season. Therefore, were United flukey to win it? Does it even matter now?

It happens a lot in football. We beat them. End of.

Hahaha, "you don't know, cos you weren't there man!" I don't need to have been there to know that we won the game ffs. I was in cardiff on the first day and we were unlucky to lose that game. You could even say that it was a 'flukey' win for cardiff. Either way it makes **** all difference because we came away from cardiff with nothing and we came away from Barnsley with 3 points which is all that counts.

I don't expect it to happen, but I "wouldn't be too surprised" if it did happen (as was my actual quote). If any players get sold I won't be surprised because of the financial situation, but I don't necessarily expect any to be sold. The point is that lots of people were saying it was inevitable they would be sold because the tyrant Rupert Lowe wants to line his pockets and doesnt give a **** about Saints etc etc when it now seems that might not be the case. Go on admit it, you acually want them to be sold to justify your vehement anti-lowe stance.

We scored a goal, Barnsley didn't. Nothing flukey about it.

It was just another excuse to criticise Lowe, although I wouldn't be too surprised if one or both still get sold.

Surely it's no coincidence that we won our first league game since he left. We're better off without him.

No. But the point is we won and that's all that counts, whether it was a fluke or not. We've had some bad luck this season and there have been games where we've played decent, pretty football but not got a result, so a 'flukey' 3 points is as good as any 3 points. It has probably been said already but everyone maons when we play well and don't get a result, now we've played badly and got a win and people are still moaning: make your f**king minds up ffs!

What strikers are these? If you mean is mcgoldrick THAT bad then I would say no because, as you point out, he has scored a few goals and some have been very important. He is a lazy ****er though.

F**king Lowe luvvie, you make me sick!

It seems like you actually prefer it when we lose.

It seems like you actually prefer it when we lose.

So you're saying we were crap but still got the win? That's always a good sign.

The games at Preston and Reading were good.

Yeah why didn't they do the decent thing and just relocate to Milton Keynes the ungrateful bastards.

Bad refereeing didn't help but the real problem was the customary refusal to mark anyone at a set-piece, which meant after a fairly decent start we were 1-0 down after 20 minutes.