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I've watched (when possible) and supported Saints for over 65 years. Because of poor health I haven't seen them live for a long time but have paid Sky an extortionate amount to watch them when possible. If we give Martin more time and results carry on getting worse it may be too late. The owners need to make a decision this month at the latest.

Absolutely dreadful. We looked weak and slow most of the time. Their tackling was much better, we left great gaps down both wings on the counter. Very surprised and disappointed that KWP was taken apart by a very young Clarke. A massive hole where JWP would have been directing play. No height for corners and set pieces. Of course Mowbray has loads of experience and tactical nouse and completely out-thought Martin. Don't put so much of, the blame on Bazunu, keeping without a defence isn't easy, he should have saved two, fourth he was completely unsighted for as it looked as if it was going to hit an attacker, he made two or three good saves. While he has faults you really can't blame this sh-tshow on him, I didn't see amyone play really well. We can just hope that Martin has the tactical abililty to sort this lot out in the international break,and not be so predictable

I replayed the game onstage one fast forward. It really shows the skill level and accuracy and intensity of passing. I have a few minor concerns. Defending set pieces against good tall headers of the ball, and lack of height at the back. With JWP accuracy, he should look at the old pairing of Channon and Ron Davies, making separate runs from the edge of the box to a Paine cross. Also the better teams are going to have much better players. Man City have the magic of de Bruyne (best player in world for me) to make the killing runs and passes.We were falling into the high press trap of condensing their team so tightly it was difficult to get the final shot away. however a very impressive start with room for improvement as we improve. Depending on who we lose I think we will go up,hoping JWP will orchestrate our promotion aided by KWP

Hard to believe that for 5 years we had e of the best goalies in the world playing for us -Peter Shilton. Not a chance in hell of similar happening these days. He was just incredible, and I remember a quote from a forwad saying, you manage to beat their defence and then look up and see you've now got to beat Shilton, or words to that effect. Eric Martin was instantly recognisable even after over 50 years ago.

You infer we wanted to sell those players. As i recall they mostly wanted to go to bigger clubs for more money. Imo the biggest mistake was to disregard the fact that Ralph's tactics had been well ad truly worked out he and wasn't getting the best out of our players. We should have started looking for a better manager and appointed him during the break. Second obvious mistake was not to have approached Dyche when things were going bad earlier this season. I agree that the transfers were wrong, and we should have tried for at least one experienced striker. Could we have got Antonio from West Ham at a reasonable price then?

I just hope this isn't a repeat of the thrashing we got at an evening game I was able to attend just before our last Cup Final Appearance 6 down inside 30 or so minutes before they took their foot off the gas. And we had a much better team and manager then.

I am actually appalled by the callousness of that story if its true. For a start no sane parent would take a 5yo child into the away supporters seats They don't sit for one thing so he couldn't see anything and he would probably be subjected to a barrage of industrial language Any caring club would make allowances for this. The club has to sell its tickets, they are in the entertainment business. I can't see the problem of sitting next to well behaved away fans anyway, it happens all the time at Test cricket matches. Surely we don't want to return to the days of hooliganism, which was in reality very unpleasant unless the football was secondary to wanting to figh In conclusion I really think that this will be the last time I come on this forum As a mobility impaired elderly man living in (self imposed exile) I used to come on to read the thoughts of those fortunate to watch the game live That is pretty pointless nowadays as so many of the comments are personal insults against our players. The last away game I attended was a farce, I can't physically stand for 80 minutes and if it were'nt for a very nice couple giving my son and I their front row tickets The home stewards were most unhelpful . I may go to some local away games if we're in the Championship but unless thee is disabled tickets available in the front row I shall use my home address to get general sales tickets. Goodbye, this site used to be good.

One of the very few analytic, rational and non emotive posts that you'll ever see on this site. As well Liverpool the moaners should also look at the list of teams City have destroyed. Quite honestly we are just not good enough and survival might be the worst thing. We need to regroup and rebuild the confidence in a very young team in the Championship. My Burnley supporting cousin has enjoyed this season.Also Armstrong and Adams scored for fun in the Championship as has Tella. I agree that the home supporters must be very disillusioned but this is mainly the fault of previous managers. However to watch the last ten minutes of the game on Sky was sickening. Continual City chanting and a nearly empty stadium didn't look or sound good.

I'm trying to decide which is more depressing: The near certainty of relegation or reading the comments on this site. I think its probably this site as Championship football isn't that bad and we might be televised more often and I might be able to get to more away games.

I just wish that correspondents to this list could try to make mainly constructive criticisms and even more importantly stop using foul language to describe our players. We are supposed to be supporters not detractors. We have already got a reputation as very demanding supporters. It was heartening to hear good support on the TV on Saturday. I and my friends always said a win was a win, however fortunate. I know supporting Saints can be disappointing (I too started in Div 3 South), but in retrospect the good times far outweigh the bad times, even when we had Rupert and had to be rescued from bankruptcy. "Do as you would wish to be done to"; is a good motto to lead your life by. How would some of you like to be described as you describe OUR players.

Although I despise the hooliganism of the late 60s early 70s I can still recall the first proper adult fight I ever saw. Football was peaceful and innocent in the early sixties, we still wore woolly hand knitted hats, scarves, and took wooden rattles, and even sang 2468 who do we appreciate, as well as The Saints go marching in. However Pompey used to have a Matalo mascot dressed as a fake sailor, and he went into the Milton end near the front behind the goal. I think he refused to leave after being politely ? asked to leave. A fist fight ensued with (a docker?), and the result was Pompey Matalo with a smashed nose pouring with blood. Two coppers came running and the sergeant built like a brick outhouse escorted the them out without much fuss. A few years after going to a game without wanting to get involved became more difficult. I

I would go for a short term appointment. My choice would be Allardyce , for all his faults he knows what it's all about, can handle the pressure and lead the players. One thing for sure he wouldn't tolerate any nonsense. Don't know if he'd come but if the carrot were big enough?

Watching The Arse v Manure. I'm afraid we delude ourselves if we think we can ever do anything but make the numbers up in the Prem The Championship might well be more enjoyable and from my personal point of view they might be on TV more often.. I've supported the Saints with my rattle and home knitted scarf from Div 3 South and I shall to my grave, but unfortunately money has taken over now, ad I can't see a billionaire rescuing us.

Thank goodness.for JWP By the way for your information the Jewish tribe of Onan (in the Old Testament) practised spilling their seed on the ground ie coitus interruptus or masturbation so Onana means Wanka 🤪

I completely agree with that. It all started as I remember after a couple of years after promotion, a portion of the fan base always had to hae a whipping boy, the first I remember was Melia, admittedly he didn't bear any comparison with Martin Chivers, even John Sydenham had a fair bit of abuse. I moved away in what were the glory days under McNemeny, but even he had a lot of criticism in his early years. I know from friends and this forum that it has continued. Unfortunately recently there is far too much extremely unpleasant abuse and not enough rational criticism. I wonder how many of the worst offenders would like to be subject to the abuse they hand out. Are they all successful in life and undeserving of criticism-I very much doubt it.

I completely agree. I consider it insane not to be starting Stuart Armstrong, and we should recall most of our loanees. The only way out of this mess that I can see is to revert to a backbone of experienced Prem players and just use a few youngsters. I seem to remember that KWP although young and inexperienced hit the ground running although he had a settled side to join. Bazunu's confidence must be shot, and he needs to be rested. Where has that slick triangular passing that we used to be able to do, now we seem to give the ball away more often than not. At the moment Jones doesn't appear to have any plan to turn things around. Hopefully we will regroup in the Championship next year, but with a new manager. I follow Burnley quite closely partially they aren't a glamorous side and I have family connections and I note that they have been on TV a lot more than us this season, so for me living miles away and having health issues it won't worry me too much as most of the few TV appearances we've had this season have been nightmarish. As a consequence I've watched very few Prem games and if it wasn't for cricket my Sky subscription would be cancelled.

I was hoping we'd part company with Ralph at the end of last season and sign Sean Dyche who was revered by Burnley fans. I think he'd have kept us up. If he'd come he might just rescue us. Anyway we'll swap with Burnley in a few months, and my cousin will have bragging rights.

He won't be here next season. Lets hope we get good money for him

A very pleasing surprise. It looked like a ritual humiliation was coming our way until we changed to a back 5. After that we grew into the game and at the end looked the most likely. Caleta Car and Lyanco brought back memories of the unforgettable Big John Mcgrath and Jimmy Gabriel fearsome combination. Thought the two favourite whipping boys -Perraud and Elanoussi had a very good game. My message to the perpetual critics is that if you want better why don't you donate the odd 20 million quid so we can buy absolute top class.......... Thought not. I think RH is now secure until Jan at least and the players really played for him. Even my dog went mad when we scored -I shouted and he let rip a barrage of extremely loud barks and wouldn't shut up. Really enjoyed it.

I thought he looked off the pace all night, I wouldn't have expected a fully fit KWP to have been beaten for speed like he was last night. RE JWP class is permanent, form is temporary. Doubt he'll go to World Cup which will give him a well deserved break. Unless Stuart Armstong can't last 90 minutes at full pace I don't know why he doesn't start more often, imo he is a very clever midfielder.

The Telegraph reporter said our centre backs relished the physical challenge and gave Haarland orobably his most difficult time so far this year. not having watched the match I can't comment, but would be interested in comments from those who went.

The score was better than i had expected and whisper it only just par for Man City at home. The reports seem to suggest we showed no threat at all. I have concluded that R H has lost our senior players , this is the only logical reason he doesn't start S Armstrong, and partially accounts for JWP and KWP 's under par performance. I trust that Romeu really wanted to go home to Catalonia (can't blame him for that) and insisted on a move. If not it was an egregious error of judgement. R H must go asap before things get even worse.

I completely agree, realistic possibility, knows how to play in the PL with meagre resources and won't f up. Still worshipped by Clarets fans according to cousin.

Having watched today's on Sky if R H sets up the defence we may even go down 19-0!

I think he's had long enough and been found wanting. Hi substitutions almost always amaze me and not starting S Armstrong I find bizarre Personally I'd be far happier with Sean Dyche. My cousin's a Clarets supporter and the fans worshipped him right to the end and most thought his sacking ensured relegation He did an amazing job with limited resources at an unfashionable club where not that many young footballers would be attracted to.