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87/3 at lunch. Vince gone. After their dreadful performance vs Hants, Worcs are 525/6 vs Somerset, and opener Mitchell has hit 288* of them!

"Fewer people", surely?

Hardly a new fact. Have you been under a rock?

Nope, and no red buttons games either. Sky have 6pm and 9pm on Sundays, and will have all Thursday, Friday and Saturday games. 5 have SNF, but no-one has MNF. Apparently they are still going to get someone to try and show it, and I wonder if ESPN will buy it when the baseball season ends?

Opera is the way forward.

There was a whole booklet that came with the ODI tickets telling you what to do.

It should NOT be up to a recent victim to decide on punishment. It is then made an emotional decision, not a rational one.

Life in prison. Solitary confinement. That is punishment. I know you want to try and make up silly sounding things to make you sound cool and knowledgable, but you aren't.

Load of rubbish. People have been in prison well over 2 decades on death row, you would call them a "dead cert". They then turned out to be innocent.

Did anyone think Krisko would be proved innocent? I doubt Huntley is innocent, I don't really care. He shouldn't be put to death. The Jamie Bulger one is slightly more difficult but, on the whole, I am content with the situation.

I'm sick of this non-argument. Death penalties cost the taxpayer MORE than a life sentence. Here is one link: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/COcosttestimony.pdf

No he hasn't. He has given the names of people who were convicted murderers, and who were jailed for a number of years. Yet they were innocent people. You would put innocent people to death.

Brilliant. A "death panel". Who gets to sit on this? How much do they get paid? How long do they consider cases for? A ridiculous, high cost, concept that is clearly a load of crap. You also embarrass yourself by having no knowledge of some horrible miscarriages of justice, where people were convicted of vile crimes, but were totally innocent.

That certainly isn't true of the worst offenders, many of whom spend a lot of time in solitiary confinement, denied the chance even to talk to another prisoner. No-one should "rot" in their cell, anyway, but I would say that sleeping in a room with enough space for a bed, a toilet and a sink isn't that great. I won't open this up into a debate on what prison in general should be like, because that is just another can of worms.

You what?! Are you really that thick?

Er, the murder rate would be calculated in murders per (probably 1,000) number of the population. That is why I said murder rate, not number of murders. Never mind.

lol. I actually think they should be banned for the whole of next season, but obviously that would affect a number of people who have done nothing wrong, and knew nothing of this plot which was only constructed at the highest level. But deliberate cheating must be punished very strictly. This is no different to drug use in cycling, which has seen whole teams banned in the past, even when just one rider used an illegal drug.

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My guess is 0. These crimes are sick and disgusting, and I very much doubt the thought of any punishment doesn't enter the criminals head, whatever that punishment is. Some are spontaneous attacks, other the criminal thinks they will get away with it. The threat of the death penalty is unlikely to deter anyone. 38 states in the US have the death penalty, but I wonder what the difference in murder rate is between them and the UK? I imagine theirs is much higher.

I don't have time to go and find figures now, but it is generally accepted that it costs the state MORE to execute someone than to keep them in prison for life.

I probably wouldn't feel that way. However, I am also realistic enough to know that the last person you should ask about punishment is the victim, or victims family. They are clearly incredibly unlikely to give an answer free of emotion.

Shouldn't have the death penalty at all. The is no "best way" of putting prisoners to death, they are all wrong.

What transport are you planning to use between Manchester and Oldham??!

Very good signing!

It's just great so many people care so much about the man.