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Is that what Rupert said in his team talk then?

Isn't though, perhaps it's our lucky day. Bet Paddy Power are rubbing their hands.

Match thread, see even the mods have chucked it in.

Bet most of them didn't understand a word he said.

If your a saints supporter at the moment, you move to Siberia,give away all your money to the poor and break a few windows so that you're on Social Work every Tuesday and Saturday. (and I'm an optimist)

Nah, Rupert looked at the ticket sales and seeing that we only have 2800 plus ST's plus aways has stuck two pudgy fingers up at us. I feel really sorry for the players tonight. Euell won't last 15 minutes and that defence is about a solid a straw hut.

Coventry will score inside 2 minutes

I think the club were thoroughly ashamed of this team. That's why there was no mention, of it anywhere until well past 7 o clock today. I mean if you'd seen that "from" list on the OS this afty you'd have stayed at home in front of the fire and the telly. I've seen some shîte saints sides in my time but this one is right up there with the other basket case sides. Having said all that it'll probably be Wolves Away 2007 all over again.

Don't give the management ideas.

Davis James Cork Wotton Skacel Schneiderlin Surman Lallana Euell Thomson DMG different huh?? bench Bart,Gobern,Smith,Pekhart,BWP. Half a defender,half a striker, 2 keepers and 13 midfield players.

I'll do that, the one I mean was towards the Dorset end of the High Street, but it goes back years and years now. I'll see if I can contact them to see if they still make the same model . I've some UK cash I can send you to get it for me and pay the postage. Thanks, will be in touch .

He was at Le Mans in 1998, aged 19,whether he had a contract pro or not I couldn't say.Came to France aged 5 with his uncle with the express purpose of becoming a pro-footballer. I bet he got some "boot money" at Levallois Perret aged 15.

Is the Honiton pottery still there OSM? Wife broke a pie dish the other day and we're one short of a full set now.

Well it wasn't for that that I asked. I thought I might inform my esteemed readers that Turkey is a crap hole and I could see anyone wanting to leave the place without much reason; However if there are any Turkish Saints about- forget I mentioned it.

Any Turkish saints about?

Wot no Rudi

Perhaps you could PM Norm and see exactly what David Luker said in his explanation of the lack of "deals"..

Strange they told Cardiff saints 13500 at 1.14'ish. Must have been a sudden spurt or they give rough figures at random.

Perhaps it saved us £50 for a seat in the stands.

They make exceptions but knock you back points. Luton being the prime case.

Creditors Voluntary Agreement. Well the new company set up to take over the club has to agree with all non secured creditors to pay off a certain percentage of the outstanding debts on an equal basis (ie everybody gets the same). So if the club (or company or whatever) have say 15 million in unsecured debts, the new company may propose 20p in the £ (Luton was 16p I think) or 10p or 30p ,until everybody agrees to accept that as full and final payment. It seems that the IR and Excise don't accept these piddly 15p,20p in the £ deals and no CVA is acceptable. Hence the old company does not exit administration by way of CVA. Our problem is that SMS is a secured loan, on ticket sales and I suppose the stadium itself and that from what I can surmise even part of our bank lending is secured. Aviva and Barclays would take whatever they could get from the sale of assets and everybody else (including ther IR and Excise) would be hung out to dry. It really depends what we owe other than the bank lending and SMS; Of that I've absolutely no idea. As we're increasing our bank borrowing it could be that we're not at all bad with other debts. But if the bank saw it coming well they just wouldn't sanction the cheques to other creditors and our other debts could rocket in very little time. For instance, tonight's game. say 5000 ticket sales, that's £15000 quid or so vat on tickets alone. Add on the beer,programmes and whatever and suddenly we could run up another 30K debt to the Excise.Shop merchandise is heavily taxable. I've no idea what they sell in a day but if we stoped paying our VAT we could run up a £1 million bill in a week or so.

No it depends on getting a successful what is now CVA? is that it? But the IR and the Excise (who administer VAT) don't play ball any more with cheap 10p in the £ buy backs so you're still in Admin and you get -15 points (Bournemouth seem to have got -17 though). Thus it boils down to this. If you owe money to the VAT and Revenue you're not going to get away with it lightly. If you don't and you can patch up something with the other creditors maybe you'll be OK. The experts will no doubt correct me if I've understood it badly.

But this is the trouble with the Academy, unless you've saleable finished articles to put on the market at 17/18 years old it's not worth the cost; You can find hundreds of Greek,Spanish,Portuguese,African,Brazilian kids who ARE the real mccoy at 17 and 18. We got loads of swans for Walcott and Bale because they were playing in the first team and performing at a very young age. After that they become swamped in the mass of professional footballers on the market. This is why we shouldn't wait too long with Lallana and Surman, they're getting past the "wonderkid" age and we'll get a few bob but nothing more.

No, it was one game and the second was for having been already sent off this season.

Nice of you to stay in contact with this one though.