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PL Games with VvD (21) = 29 points (I think) PL games without VvD (17) =17 points so we average 0.39 of a point more per game with VvD than without. Difference would have made up about 7 points over the 17 games he missed so we would have still been 8th I think. So like the participation of Indiana Jones in Raiders of the Lost Ark, his presence actually changes nothing at the end of the day. League Cup might have been different though and that was a ticket to Europe that Utd didn't need anyway..

But he's simply not available, well if you listen to Krueger and Reed anyway.

Fantasy football I expect. Van Dijk is worth no more than Kyle Walker so 50 million. We aren't selling him anyway apparently so the sum is purely academic.

On his bike.

What Naby Keita ? Was just replying to post about Leipzig refusing 70 million for him.

They should take the 80 million for Coutinho, good but erratic on occasions and a weeny bit fragile.

Perhaps Liverpool haven't actually offered 70 million. The figures you see in the press are usually vastly erroneous. They've probably offered about 45 with all sorts of bonuses and staged payments. It's like Neymar to PSG for nigh on 200 million but it's on the never never, 80 million down, 6 years at 20 million each.

Perhaps not a very well thought out presentation for a bloke who's currently flogging Opel Insignias.

I am not suggesting 35 million, that's what Arsenal will probably offer, it's what they do. Van Dijk is not going to be sold for 70 million so we'd just as well let him ask Liverpool just how much they're willing to pay for him, let him be disillusioned once and for all and get back to playing.

I think Mitchell took the magic kryptonite out of it and substituted a bit of green glass..............

Arsenal will take him off our hands at a push, 35 million . Price is way, way over the top, Surprised Liverpool haven't moved on by now, perhaps Klopp made him a promise eh...

I'd think they've spent enough on first team defenders already this window; What's the running total now, about 130 million on full backs ? Plus 40 million for a keeper.

Crap, rain, hope the match will see some action at least, need the points. Nope no dice, abandoned without a single ball.

You forgot to mention the 100 million euros down payment that PSG/Qatar FC have already given us against his transfer to them in about 2 years time.

Depends what the contracts actually say doesn't it. Who can say if there's a"no europe" clause in them. Or top 4, or prolonged injury or a thousand other things. Agents are pretty sharp, most of them legal eagles. The contracts that players sign usually are a bit loaded in favour of their client.

Doubling I expect.

Mané was refusing to play at Salzburg when we signed him, don't know if we had anything to do with that though, just benefited from it I expect.

Chelsea probably just trust Mark Hughes more than an Argentine that they know nothing about. You just can't say. Perhaps they offered more money or a bigger salary share or a guarantee that he'd play every week.

Who can say we didn't? Let's face it, we know squat about squat. I see many opinions voiced here as if the poster knew all the facts about everything. None of us can really say what really goes on. Tom 28 told us what was basicallly a fact and just got regally slagged off for his trouble. Me? I'm more worried about Hampshire's one day batting just now.

So, another catastrophy. Good job we won our first 3 games. From what I could deduce from the radio commentary it seems that the opposition have worked out that our tactic is to bat first and try to hit everything out of the ground. By a bit of variation in their bowling they either entice into mi**** shots or pin us down. Given that our bowlers just don't seem to be able to keep the run rate down, anything that leaves us with less than 160 or 170 is a winning performance.

Won't get anywhere near the sum required for a defender from either Italy or Spain. Only goalscorers and fancy dan AMs go for big fees in those countries.

Bloody Bopara, always seems to play well against us.

Probably but I don't see that we'd get any more than we would from a transfer fee. Mutu's behaviour made him valueless, don't think that's the case with Van Dijk.

More Gung-Ho batting from Hants, got a few more runs than yesterday but it's not great. Commentators saying that we're hitting the ball in the air too much. Plus 3 wickets for that old knob Bopara.

Wasn't Mutu sacked by Chelsea for drug use ?