shurlock

Whenever I hear someone say "I'm getting into analytics", I imagine toddlers with machetes.

Agree, Martina's had a decent game, after a dodgy early cross and dwelling on the ball at times.

He's hardly touched the ball apart from one good block and spraying it out wide once; we've basically been camped in their final third.

These links are garbage.

1.30pm

Surprised Batman/Delldays hasn't hit this thread yet.

We spent £2.8m on agents fees last season (12 months ending Sept 2014).

It is quite likely money for a CB would have been budgeted and set aside last season. I wouldn't be surprised if there is more money available than not. Whether we choose to spend it is another matter.

I thought they created wit, pop music and western civilisation.

Then you're answering your own contrived question and shouldn't be quoting or responding to others posts. Other than you, the thread is discussing the standard of Scottish football and how much you can infer from players success in it -Danny Fox being an example- in terms of their chances to adapt to the premiership. The answer gives some sense of how much of a quality adjustment should be made for the fact that VVD looks like a world beater in his YouTube highlights, among other things. It really couldn't be any simpler.

The 'turd' remark was originally in response to examples of Scottish-based players stepping up to the premiership. Not surprising as this is the thrust of the entire thread.

You're missing the point. Are we looking for a player to do a job in the championship? No the discussion is whether players who did well in Scotland can make the step up to the premiership - and Danny is not premiership standard. The rest of your post is thus irrelevant.

It's now, isn't it? Not 1pm.

I appreciate that; rather I wanted to see the pool from which the 15 would be chosen. Does our coefficient improve if we win our third round match; and conversely does the coefficient of those knocked out of the CL QR worsen?

Do you have their coefficients (teams currently participating in the CL qualifying rounds)?

Really? I'd say there's a very good chance we're seeded for the 4th round, should we qualify. Hull were seeded relatively comfortably last season, if with all the teams knocked out of the CL qualifying rounds.

Thought he was a passenger in the game; really struggled to impose any kind of authority or grip on the game. Counted very few forward passes with his head up; at least, one hospital ball in the 2nd half nearly put the CB in trouble. That said, it was a very frenetic and scrappy game (think WBA vs Stoke), with possession constantly breaking down, so its difficult to draw conclusions. Feyenoord's CBs really struggled against the high pressure of Seville's attackers who seemed to go two up top, choking any balls into Clasie, with the result they went long more often than not. Feyenoord reminded me a bit of us - very well-organised but lacking a certain spark in the final third (Boetius's unpredictability and Toornstra's drive apart). That said, they deserved to win - Seville paid the price for trying the spoil, coming into the game only when it was too late.

Actually think Surman suffered from being our sellable asset during administration.

Richard Hall (never mind it was an injury that derailed his career)

A Youtube montage in the SPL - that's like a CGI-enhanced superhero in a Hollywood blockbuster.

Why is everyone so sure it's £7m?

ITK. First time for everything.

Your logic is a bit circular: you claim above that an asset only has value as much as there are buyers. That maybe true; but it doesn't change the fact that, on paper, the club was a very good commercial proposition, ripe for a turnaround, probably a better benchmark against which to judge Lowe's legacy. After all, the main reason that there were few buyers or even tyre-kickers is that, through no fault of our own, we couldn't have gone into administration at a worst moment in history, with the global financial crisis in full effect. Risk aversion was at an all time high and credit had seized up. Any objective assessment can't possibly pin unfortunate timing on Lowe. By the same token, if there was a moment in time when liquidation was a possibility, it was 2009. That said, it was still unlikely, though there is something perverse and myopic in claiming that as some kind of victory, when the likely alternative to Liebherr and Cortese was further decline bordering on death by a thousand cuts, a hardly more appealing prospect.

Would share some of that scepticism and its a clear risk, though I wonder if there's anything practically -from the types of players a club buys to a willingness to speculate to accumulate on those players- that can raise the term above Orwellian euphemism and give it meaning.

Is he still mates with Lynam? I get the impression that he still refuses to accept (at least, that the deal wasn't bogus to start with) and that he's pretty loyal to his mates.