Nineteen Canteen

Depends how sharp the stick is you are roasting it with.

No because he can probably afford not to work and was happy to look outside football.

Quite

I will when I have finished pointing out the hypocrisy of some posters on this thread. (Not Trousers I may add - just wanted to respond to his conspiracy theory comment) Hypo and Saint Robbie have done so many u-turns I don't think they know where they stand anymore.

Whilst being encouraged to swing from the Itchen Bridge. Waiting for long term success is dependent on having a patient and supportive fan base. Not running before you can walk most of our team like last year have only just learned to walk. Times change as TDD said.

Provoked? Your very existence seems to me to be a conspiracy theory. IMO, Mt Liebherr will not spend money this club has not earned and therefore follow the doctorine of his father. Having a rich owner does not make us a wealthy club and it's ironic a year ago if we had sold our experienced players like we have and went scratching around for Bosman's there would have been uproar. Seems Hypochrondriac is now saying had Lowe last year told us we had no chance in our first game and that we had no money to spend he would have been perfectly happy. Its ok to be sh*t as long as the manager is honest and tells us we are sh*t - all managers and chairman past and present please take note. I wonder if Pardew will bring in Vincent Pericard who was released by Stoke. Pericard must be one of the best strikers around as the Messiah Pearson brought him in! Go on Alan be a tropper you know you want to....

Opinions, generalisations, straw polls, first hand experience there is no getting away from the fact the BMW's and now Audi's are the cars you are most likely to see pushing in, not giving way, weaving through traffic on motorways and cutting those right hand turns. I regularly use the M3, M25, M11, M40, M1, M6 and M74 and live in an area surrounded by narrow country lanes and this type of behaviour is typical. Baj as a biker I'm surprised you have never experienced being taken out by one of these cars as you approach a right turn at a T junction. There is no denying the quality of the cars and their indestructability but equally the people who own them seem to be under some illusion they are pompously important or the next Lewis Hamilton and the rest of us commoners can move out of the way. You don't see other executive brands behave like this on a regular basis so why BMW and Audi? What makes the drivers of them think they are so important? Johnny Bognor may be right that a lot of this opinion comes out of brand jealously but the reality is entry levels for these two margues are now quite affordable compared to other more mainstream alternatives so I'm not sure this is consistently the case. Why would anyone want to buy an A3 or Series 1 BMW when a Golf is better in every respect and without the tawdry 'I'm a junior Estate Agent' image. BMW and Audi must be getting concerned they have an image problem and in my experience even their employees have a problem with the brand and the type of person it attracts and I have that information first hand from an employee in a dealership. It's not the cars and how well engineered they are it's the c*cks that are attracted to them and you may not want to work in a service department of a BMW dealership . Perhaps that's when the cost of ownership hits home. BMWs, the Ford Capri or XJ6 of the 21st Century. No thanks I prefer my cars a little less look at me and more that was me and thank you for getting out of my way now you've stopped weaving in out of the traffic.

http://www.swiftlydoesit.com/bmw-drivers-are-the-worst-on-the-roads/ Seems I am not alone in thinking that BMW drivers are the c*cks of the road and hardly surprising that Subaru, Audi and Porkers figure highly on the list. Interestingly (this is one of many sites) these cars don't have a high accident rate and its the more bog standard cars that figure highly. I was wondering is this because the BMWs, Audis, Porkers and boy raced Subarus weave in out of traffic on our motorways, refuse to give way on single lanes roads or cut the corner on right hand turn at T junctions (to shave 0.5 sec off their best getting home time) and ignoring every law of the road they speed off simply leaving the destruction in their wake? Of course the self strokers who drive these cars will tell you they are the best handling cars you can buy which may be true but our public roads are not Silverstone and driving the best handling car does not mean you can ignore everyone else or what we were taught when he passed out test. This last point point doesn't apply to anyone under driver 25 driving a Mk1 Imprezza and soon to aspire to a 3 series BMW as they are unlikely to have passed a test or they have but don't have insurance. The next time you are out and about I can guarantee the car behind you trying to open your boot with its grille will be a BMW or Audi. Driving on a country lane the car failing to give way even though he is level with a passing place and you are driving uphill, will be a BMW or Audi. A special mention here for all SUVs you have wheels on your vehicle the size of which Mr Liebherr may consider to large for his earth movers so you can move over for the driver in a normal car and ground clearance. Special mention must go for right hand turns at T Junctions and why Bikers rate BMW the biggest menace of the road. Were BMW, Audi and Porky drivers not told by their driving instructers to imagine someone standing on the right angle of the junctions marked in the centre of the road in which you are turning. It is not appropriate to take a 'racing line' through these junctions as you will kill the person standing on the right angle or the approaching bike slowing approaching the junction to turn right on the road you are leaving. Having said that of course one day that bike will be a lorry or a X5, Cayenne or Q7 and unless you are driving a cheapy LHD car we will be rid of another 'petrol head' who feels their choice of car gives them rights over everyone else. Trouble is in my experience carnage and justice are rarely bedfellows. If you google drivers of these car makes it seems for a change I may agree with the majority. People who believe useless tanks like the X5 and Q7 should not be taxed out of existence and drunk drivers like Lundekvam driving such tanks should not have the book thrown at them should be drawn to a cautionary tale from Wales last year. A drunk driver in a Q7 ploughed into a Fiat Punto and a young family inside, causing carnage. His speed was 120mph and allegedly he was masturbating at the time. The SUV a real family car especially if it's ridciulously expensive and over the top as an X5, Cayenne or Q7 with the offroading abilities of a Vauxhall Vectra. These cars have an image problem and it's due to the aspirational types who drive them it's not the cars but the drivers and how these cars are marketed.

I was hoping it was just naive and an attempt to defend me.

True, when they are brand new, so are most Citreons. At £2k or under age, mileage and condition is all important far more than make and if I was Baj I would even consider a bigger car. You could pick up a mint Mondeo 2.5V6 on a S or a T plate for buttons - he says insurance isn't a problem but don't know about parking or access to an oil well. If his daily mileage is small why not go for a larger car. Will make major savings on price and probably longer term running costs as the engine will be more robust for starters provided you stick with popular makes and don't decide you have no friends and buy a BMW or Audi.

Baj, buy a Yaris estate, you could start a trend. Seriously for your budget I would avoid anything Asian, French or Italian. Leaves you with a Corsa, Fiesta, Fabia or Polo I reckon. For your money you will be spolit for choice and will come down to age/mileage combination and levels of kit but you will be guaranteed to get a really decent car for your money without any major worries. Its sold now but i know someone who was selling a Fiesta on an 02 plate with less than 20k on the clock for £3,500. Obviously outside your budget but there will be older examples that fit your budget/criteria. A Yaris that has done near to 100k miles may as well have been driven to the moon in 3rd. You want a low price and presumable low running costs and I don't think you'll get that with a Yaris costing £2k. Image is awful if you are under 60 and there will be plenty of under 20 year olds looking to snap up your car when you come to sell it if you stick to the more traditional options in this bracket.

What if Offix goes to the last post on the thread and works backward he could end up looping for the rest of time.

OK, you and others have no idea about my personal life and have no grasp whatsoever of the varying forms of mental health issues that go from alcoholism, anorexia through to self harming and schizophrenia and whole gamut of other issues covered under the umbrella of mild through to serious clinical depression. Remember I was forced to reveal aspects of my life in defence of comments made against me that was given to someone I trusted and given in strict confidence. I wish that confidence hadn't been betrayed but in any event if it had it should not have led to this level of ridicule and speculation and had I a serious physical illness or handicap I doubt the abuse would be quite so fervent or amusing as many see it. Furthermore, as TDD mentioned if I was a poster with perhaps more populist beliefs and less challenging of the old guard then no doubt the whole thing wouldn't have come out in the first place. So we get into the realms of suggesting I am insane with some of the references you and others are now using I suggest you ensure you are on solid ground as making what appears to be statements of fact could be considered libellous, defamatory or slander. I appreciate the laws on message boards are unproven and maybe akin to a conversation in the pub or the receipient of the abuse 'asked for it' by joining a closed circle but in this instance some of this stuff is clearly being discussed outside of this forum and regardless of that fact it is becoming increasingly damaging. Anyway the law maybe unclear but I do know one quite well networked legal exec who wouldn't mind looking into this type of issue. Especially when statements are written with definity such as yours and you clearly have no idea about me and set out purely to discredit and destroy because you don't like my point of view. I enjoy the banter but some of this is going to another level entirely.

Well at least it's not the Express and you obviously have a feminine side

I bet he is still closest to the ball after he 'hits' it with that stick.

According to Hamster try Fleming Park still a good chance to play around but go careful quite a few dog legs.

Spending two weeks trawling around the more seedier parts of Thailand in amongst a load of sweaty and leery Germans. No decent bloke should admit to that type of holiday and then regale us all of their 'funny' stories about goosing a young lady and finding something almost less than expected. Oh how we ran afterwards......! Single male or group male holidays in Thailand are deeply odd and disturbing but golfing holidays probably worse especially when you consider the miles of beautiful coastal pathways to enjoy and goose a hiker.

I must admit I was surprised to hear it had excellent football coverage (tip off on this site)and the other day somewhat furtively I did sneak a look at it in the newsagent. The sports pages were quite good but still had to tuck it into my regular copy of Fiesta before taking it up to the counter. Don't know why I bothered as there were loads of people openly buying the Daily Mail without any hint of embarrasment most of them old women and female pensioners. TBH - there is not a newspaper that satisfies everything you want from a paper and only one that disastifies on everything except for the middle class ladies and those who like the sound of the BNP because their policies do not affect them. The Daily Mail reader IMO believe that a loud monologue is an end to a debate. Wes, Daren, MOG and a few others. Off to sew some brown leather patches on my moleskin jacket before my next geography class.

Dave Merrington could fill Colemanballs on a weekly basis if Hislop and chums cared to listen. Never forget the 90 minutes of confusion he caused when we played Burley away and Burnley made some dodgy substitutions. Still the best summariser there is on Saints games.

Agree with you on Foley but what about his SISA buddy O'Callaghan for his insightful comment on the takeover by Mr Liebherr: 'Good to have an owner with a nice bit of wedge in his pocket' Classy. Bound to open doors to the boardroom that one. If we are going to have a spokesperson then Nick Illingsworth will do for me and at least he tries to make comment with consideration to all our views and not just his own.

I would DP but closed down my pms for obvious reasons.

Daren time to stop the self-centred approach and read what is being written.

Excellent post and for me backs up with some facts that which I have felt all along. Wilde supported by Crouch was the start of the club's downfall. Relegation from the Premiership remains an increasingly occupational hazard for club's of our size.

It wasn't a point Sussex just a question and a dig at the Tisdale supporters if I'm honest. I totally agree with you unless the manager is an apprentice and the DoF doesn't like cold wet mornings on the training ground, I can't think of any manager who wouldn't want full autonomy over his team.