Smirking_Saint

Problem is Stu is your 'lets me for a pint' speeches always come across as the same aggressive ways in which you post and shout down opinions mate. Perhaps that is why most people don't want to meet up with you ?? But anyways back to topic, FWIW i honestly think this price hike is a bit too hight, £200 plus cup games and a tenner is less steep and more f*cking verticle. I guess that SFC does not own the car parks however so you never know quite how highly those that do have priced the ground to SFC but still, i just can't see it jump that high.

So you shout me down for making sarccy comments and then within the last line bring up the ubber-fan crap that you keep bringing up ?? Why ? Why have i ever said i am an Uber fan ? Or better than you or anyone else ?? How have i made myself look retarded by commenting on these issues ?? How do you know about my position financially etc ?? Truth is Stu, i was going to buy a ST this season but i cannot justify paying the money upfront, so in essance i am effected by the removal of the payment plan as i would have almost definately bought one if it were still available. I could get a 0% credit card etc but instead have re-assessed my priorities and have settled on hand picking as many games as i can and will probably go to more away games and miss the majority of mid-weekers. All in all though i can see the number of STH's increasing, and so how would NC have f*cked up ? We would have more than usual. I would never advocate a club having more than 2/3rds of its supporters being STH's anyways, it just does not make good financial sense and stifles the growth of a fanbase. You laugh at him walking around saying hello to the fans and giving away a ST to a newborn as a minute gesture and you are then up in arms as fans that only read the daily echo (i would argue not a massive % of the fanbase) have to wait a massive 24 hours for news, wow. Every club has differences, infact the majority are in the red, saints are not, i would much much prefer a stable future and a decent team, ambition and set up then a few more PR 'stunts' from the chairman. And as for the prices, they will always stay within a level that is sustainable to keep a decent level of attendance, and for that reason will never become too astronomical. But well done to you to being more knowledgeable than all of us to the running of a major business within an industry not governed by the same rules that affect those in a usual commercial situation. You truelly are an idol amoungst forum posters.

I agree with that, completely agree and think we should be selling more ST's especially after last season. All i was saying that every season i would assume there would be a natural reduction of people renewing for whatever reason, obviously you can't have more people 'renewing' than already had a ST, but you will always get people that don't keep it up for whatever reason. You then need to add to this with people that buy new tickets. I honestly believe we will have more STH's than last season, all in all the payment plan has not affected as many as has been made out and the outcry has pretty much died down now, well in the people i know anyways and most of them arent exactly flush. It was a mistake by NC, i do get that and a shame on those few that it has affected which will generally be families.

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All very quiet down St Marys. No rumours no nothing, all we know officially is that Pardew is looking for a new striker or two. Hopefully we will hear a bit more soon. This forum needs something else to talk about.

Eh ??

Got nothing to say then Stu ??

Can't you three just have a spit roast and get over it ? Don't forget to high five in the middle before changing sides.

Well, fair play for dealing with it in a proper non violent way.

rick

We have talked about it over PM Stu, and the issue is yes you do make some good points, however you are so single minded it really wouldn't matter if i had a counter arguement or not, your focussed and obsessed in attempting to make every one you meet share your hatred of NC. You argue against this by saying not to go onto a thread that you have started on the subject however each and every f*cking thread i look at these days have you gobbing off on the same tedious subject. You have made your points, you have argued and argued, you have even changed your name for some reason ? But all in all those that you would have influenced with this have been and those that are not going to be influenced are currently finding it all pretty boring. NC is what he is, a businessman, he was never a fan of Southampton he just saw a business oppurtinity. How hard is that to see ?? We are customers of the club, always have been, no need to spit your dummy out because the club does not tailor to your every need. He is running the club as a business and is attempting to fund a successful charge to the PL whilst building the team and infrastructure along the way. All of these things you hear about him need to be taken with a pinch of salt to, as a lot of these 'rumours' are twisted and changed dependant on the word of mouths outlook towards them. I would hazard a guess we still have a large ST uptake, and i would also argue atleast 80% of the STH would renew, which i would imagine to be a natural swing most seasons anyways. I agree NC is crap at PR, i agree he could have done things better and definately should have warned of the payment plan change before hand and should have reconsidered it's removal to the detriment of the fans. However we don't know all of the reasons for its removal, you did some research but only from one side of it. Personally i blame all those defaulters last season as without which i would hazard a guess NC would have kept it up but as per usual the selfishness of a few detriment on others and highlights the fact that if you can't afford something don't buy it. Everyone i know who is renewing had a moan about the payment plan but has now got over it and renewed and a few more of us are buying new ST's. Most of us are happy with the progression, i am sort of on the fence about NC but understand this is a business not a charity. He will never alienate the entire fanbase, it will never ever happen FFS, prices won't ever be too astronomical (within reason) as it will stifle profits from attendance. And TBF if we are challenging like chelsea in the prem than yes i would pay for that premium.

I never realised keifer sutherland Snr was a UFO enthusiast

Were they in the leicester chronicle this morning ?

I would feel so much better if we had Stu running the club

Except all the marketing you propose will actually cost extra money to the club for what will essentially be a smaller uptake. STH's are of the type that if they wish to buy a ticket, they will be checking the OS etc and so going to renew, i don't know of any STH that DOESN'T know they need to renew about this time so a marketing campaign to say so is pretty pointless IMO.

Exactly

panini

Where abouts in the world FFS ??

Wife

Oh they were in the sky i would never have guessed. Where abouts you plank

Trouble

Obviously there is a massive difference between staying with for one in the pink and staying for life.

Or chinese lanterns Or you could be drunk again ?? Where exactly ?

Did nobody stay to watch Stevie Wonder ?