MarkSFC

If we get 25-30 for Morgan and 15 for Clyne (only 15 as in last year. Any leass than 10 and it's probably better to see home run out the contract) then that's good business. We do not need and cannot always keep top class in every position at least not for 3-4 or more seasons unless we happen to reach CL. We havnt so they will go. Others aren't quite as good or deserve to move just yet. In CM if we get Vilhenna, Claisie and add an ever improving Reed to Victor then that's good, and those two will easily be cheaper than what we get for Morgan. We are very much a club that produces talent, nurtures it and gets it too international level. How long we then mange to keep individuals is down to their personal ambitions but essentially whether we get in Europe of CL even. Most of the top top players we manage to create will stay a max of 2-3 years once they become internationals of top countries. That is our reality but it will produce a lot of exciting times and who knows at some point a CL season! If we face a summer where no top clubs wants a player or three then we will probably have had an average or less than average season

Koeman has stated that he is happy to have "older" players who can add experience and aid the development of the younger ones and Sneijder would fit that perfectly.

Koeman has stated that he is happy to have "older" players who can add experience and aid the development of the younger ones and Sneijder would fit that perfectly.

I refer you to post 432 on page 9 of that thread mate!!

when do we get to 70 is more pertinent.

Just bung Burnley 12-15 big ones for Ings and be done with it.

Assuming this is not a "sign him in the summer" deal, he only needs to "behave" for 4-5 months. Could be a very shrewd move.

Well that result and performance is incredibly depressing but the glaringly obvious truth all season is that when our best 12-13 players are fit and on top form we have a very goo side indeed. The problem is though that when you have the depth of squad we have 16-17 plus kids, it is virtually impossible to maintain peak form, fitness and avoid suspensions. Take Arsenal at the weekend, i think they had 8 or 9 players out, most of whom would get in most teams in the league and still had a strong result. We are at least 5-6 players (plus JRod!)short of being genuinely top 6, but with the start we have had and 2-3 decent signings in Jan (and JRod) we could just do it as others like West Ham will inevitably suffer with injuries and suspensions at some point. A depressing night no doubt but just the result of squad depth, injuries and suspensions which in themselves cause dips in peak performance. The best teams are not the best teambecause they have the best 11...they are the best because they can get 11 players in top form out on the pitch every week, near as damn it.

I hope we get Alderweild and Bertrand signed up permanently, if that's possible under the terms of their respective loans. I think we do need another attacker of some sort. Tadic, Pelle, Mane, and Long are a good group and add in JRod and that's very good. But we do not know whether JRod will come back to full tilt quickly or at all, and Mane is off for a month, so someone else may be the difference between top 4 and top 8. Shakiri seems to be available!!

Good post and summary. I would much rather we have a sustainable and financially secure club that remains a club just outside the top 6 but every now and then gets a great group together that challenges the stays quo for a season. Realistically we will never be a consistent top 4 club but a financial and football model balanced in the ethos of sustainability and consistency sounds like a club to be proud of. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The start has been really good and at this rate we are on target for 70 plus points. Of course we still have 9 games against City, Arse, Chelsea, Utd and Liverpool, so the ratio may well drop, but you never know!! I think the target should be 60 points so these 5 games v Sun, Stoke, Hull, Leicester and Villa need to glean 11-12 points probably. Get them in the bag and suddenly the run against the top boys becomes relatively pressure free! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

and the problem with that is.......??!!!

V Newcastle Same as West Ham but perhaps Wanyama for Davis. Over the season I'm guessing first choice team when ALL are fit FoRster Bertrand Gardos Alderweireld Clyne Morgan Wanyama Tadic Mane Pelle JRod Until JRod is fit Tadic out wide instead of more central with JWP or Davis Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Announcement tonight? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Please supply the link to video or quotes as I do not recall these exact words, I just recall that it was hinted or from what he said made it sound like that. More than happy to be proved wrong, it's just a few people have said that to me and I think I've followed everything this summer! Maybe the logic in my head that we definitely need another CB has effected my memory! And if we did I doubt Gardos will be fourth choice, I fully expect him to be first choice, yes better than Fonte!

And it will get better. One or two more additions, Ramirez getting more game time and JRod back in a couple of months hopefully. Confidence will build now; big win psychologically today. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

yeah lets take their wages too! at some point players like that will need to realise that their wages will drop or they don't play. They will need to work out whats more important to them. I doubt any of those "need" 60-70k+ per week!

I agree, he did not look great but I feel more confident with him at RB than JH at CB. Nightmare scenario is both have to play!!! We definitely need a player like Yoshida who can do both, but better!! Tough though. Micah Richards would be perfect.

It's interesting that so many people are convinced that we need a RB more than a CB. Koeman stated early in his tenure that he wanted 2 players for each position so I understand that with Chambers gone why people think its important to get another one. My argument would be that we need a CB more than a RB. Yoshida plays RB for Japan fairly often, Crk "could" play there and then there are the up and coming Stephens and McCarthy (I may be wrong with that name - MLG will correct I'm sure). As soon as one CB is out for whatever reason it leaves Jos (or Stephens) as the CB on the bench, and if another is out....scary!! So I guess my point is really this, would you prefer to go the season with Jos as CB cover or Yoshida as RB cover? If we only get one of these, which does seem the most likely scenario know.

He may well be totally ITK, but I think he is just certainly ITK some of the time, whereas K, Billysound appears to be 100% ITK. You've over-reacted to my post. He uses words/phrases like "I think", "I cant see". Now this may well be his way of not be blunt with his information. Equally it is ambiguous and non-committal. My initial response to your post which was based on Guans latest "hints" just meant to point out that you (as others also do) had and tend to use his info and other rumours etc, as gospel. You are a poster worth reading alot of the time, but that post highlighted your flaw on here. Making assumptions and fluffing them out does you no favours. Dont get sucked in. Anyway, third post done. Till tomorrow!

Ha, that post was not a debate, it was a statement which I then referred to. The reason for the insult as you have taken it - although it could be argued that I was debating - is that I think your rationale is flawed. I'm permitted to state that in the spirit of free speech and you can then debate using facts and theory. You almost always use guess work based on little more than rumours and the words of anonymous posters - who you may or may not know in real life. Nothing you said offended me, it would be very difficult to as it is literally words on a screen from someone I don't know. It's quite simple. I think it would be a benefit to the forum if everyone was restricted to the number of posts as I think we would get a far better level of 'debate'!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

you're very good of making 2=2 = 39!! You're assumptions are based on rumour, counter rumour and b******* and you try to make yourself sound clever and knowledgeable at the same time. Sad. Enjoy your game of FM though....

Get rid of the ungrateful, unprofessional, and previously unwanted egotist. Rather a weaker team of understudy keepers who want to fight for their place than a better one who will not fight. We are better in first choice, significantly stronger in the long term but identical in back-up if he goes. There will be options.

On the face of it, I agree, but the more you see of Chambers and read his tweets, the more he strikes me as a young lad who has progressed very quickly into the big time and it seems like his ego is hugely inflated. Possibly the stereotypical "cocky little t***"!! Assuming this then it is very possible that this is a major reason why we agreed to let him go. There is no doubt that on the basis of three games it looks like a mistake and it may well be one that we live to regret - from purely a football perspective - but those who know hi within the club may not feel like that. No team needs a bad apple. We will see in the next few months how good he really is likely to be and when Hodgson calls him up we will know a bit more. Very early days, we have seen lots of young kids look the part - many at Arsenal - but turn out not to be as expected.

Judge him in two years time!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk