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He has been left standing quite a few times, not so much recently admitted but in the first few games of replacing Thomas.....its probably helped that his positional play has improved in recent weeks, another plus mark for the coaching staff I suspect.

Quite agree......it does worry me what will happen when he comes up against a flying winger or overlapping full back for the reasons you state. But at the moment he isn't really being tested in that department and as you can only judge him on what happens and not what might happen he is playing well.

Well he certainly wouldnt have been able to carry on if it had been a break.....i would guess at brusing........besides you dont run and score with your arm do you ???

No surprise...to me Ince has put together a team in his own image - niggly, whingey and not very pretty. Glad he didnt come here as manager in the summer.

Only if they can catch him Hope we can extend this loan.....just imagine a winger playing for Southampton who actually does what a winger should - beat the full back and get to the bye-line....incredible !!

Supposed to clear up early afternoon though......sun out, too late to do anything else....why not pop down to St Marys I do hope if it is a big crowd we dont do the old trick of going to pieces and being crap !

I would think Dellhurst............we had fans everywhere that afternoon....I would think we had more there than the "official" figures

You mean Thomson not Thomas don't you ?

Agree with that. The fact that this club had become so divided in every possible way that even supporters were fighting amongst themselves.

Its all very well saying "get rid" but if nobody wants him he isnt going anywhere. The only chance of him leaving in the near future is for someone to want him on loan.....but they dont appear to be beating down the door in a rush to get him.

I thought that.....same happened when Southend equalised last week.....we didnt crumble on either occasion and that in itself is very encouraging.

Bit picky today aren't you ? He was and is a defender, Lloyd James is not a defender.

Well he was doing a good job until he got injured, now he is back fit I dont see why AP hasn't gone back to using him, the defence certainly looks more solid with him there. No disresepect to James but he aint a right back !

I must say the continued inclusion of James at right back is asking for trouble. I know he gives more going forward but when its all hands on deck at the back he is often all at sea.

Well well.....lets have a little look at everyones fave poster and his latest attempt to bad mouth anyone who has ever done anything decent for Southampton FC. Maybe, just maybe, when taking into account their Top 20 the Guiness Book people considered a number of things.....such as - Number of games managed at a particular club or in a particular division and the % of wins, or the average League position of said club during managers tenure there. Given that Lawrie was manager of Southampton longer than Benitez, Mourinhio and Dalglish (to name but three) were at their clubs that would probably explain that one. I seem to recall a period where we were about the 7th most successful club in England, and that WAS under Lawrie's leadership so that would be one explanation as to his appearence on the list. Perhaps, although less likely, they looked at the state of the club, the size, the previous history etc and judged it partly by that. No manager had ever won the FA Cup for Saints before, no manager had ever led us to a League Cup Final before, no manager had qualified the club for Europe as many times before, and nobody had ever got the club anywhere near Runners-up in League Division 1 as it was then called. So work out the number of years Lawrie was at Southampton - i will help you - it was 11 years as manager, and calculate how many of those seasons ended in a promotion, a cup final appearence, a qualification for Europe, a top 3 placing...and you will probably find he had more succesful seasons than not. To include Redknapp, Moyes, Hodgson, Armfield and even to an extent Atkinson above him is an absolute insult....but i guess thats your whole point isnt it ? Oh and even though I have blocked you feel free to reply as I'm sure some kind soul will post your response in the quotes box cos thats how i still manage to read most of your rubbish/baiting/poison....cos like a bad penny, you always turn up again and again and again.....

Absolutely......not his fault an ego maniac gave him the chance of a lifetime but then tied both his hands behind his back.

They always say that, any player, whatever club he goes too. Good luck to him though.

As I said in the previous thread it is useless match days - when we are away at least, cant comment on home games cos I'm there......sometimes you dont get the team on there until the game has kicked off - the "match facts" bit is a waste of time, you may as well incorporate that in the match report. I also cant decide if the Echo is copying the website or vice versa. It was so much better when it was "in house"......surely someone at the club could take it back in and keep it updated. Hell i will do it for a salary of £20-25k......so if anyone at the club is reading this.....

I second that......the match coverage has been abysmal since it went out of the club's control.....sometimes you dont even get the line ups before kick off. Its very poor these days unfortunately.

Not according to the back of this weeks edition it is not. Clearly states, bottom right hand corner - ...and printed at Newsquest (Southern) Ltd from its offices at Newspaper House, Test Lane, Redbridge, Southampton. Doesnt mention the echo printing site on The Granby in Weymouth at all.

I think he probably looked better than he really is last year when we were, not to put too fine a point on it, **** poor. But this year he has been left wanting.

Just popped into this thread.......is this guy 19C STILL going on about this FFS ?

I can vouch for that......both the garage and the newsagents at the bottom of my road stock it on a Sunday morning.......they dont have many copies each admittedly but they both sell it. Will be a shame, especially for those of us who dont get the Southampton Echo during the week.

Thats lovely to read. You tend to know things are getting better when you read an honest assesment from somebody who has no links or ties to the club.

I think if you are prepared to view this season as a "building" season that has the aim to storm this league next season you will not be disappointed. If you are viewing it as "make the play-offs" it may end in misery for you. If we do make the play offs then that will be a huge huge bonus after starting -10. But to me, as soon as that penalty was imposed the real life situation was "ok, stay up and build for next year" If the plan is Premiership in 5 years, which Cortese has stated then I would think those in charge of the club view it the same way to be honest. Nobody knows, if we do go on a run of games where we just keep winning then its possible. But I think we are more in the relms of building slowly to be realistic.