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It's not really a case of having the right to end someone else's life. It's about them choosing to end their own life but requiring medical assistance to do it peacefully and painlessly at the right time. In most cases the decision would have to be made prior to illness, such as with dementia, so that the patient is in a competent frame of mind to make such a decision. You could also have a registration system, like with organ donors, whereby you can register certain people you trust to make a decision to end your life, given undisputed medical advice. For example if you were in a traffic accident and were brain damaged to the point of being beyond any possible recovery. If 2 or 3 neurologists all examined the patient and were unanimously agreed that recovery was medically impossible from such a state, a registered proxy could then make the decision to end your life. Down's syndrome babies are a different issue as they can still have a life. Personally I wouldn't have a problem with them being euthanised so the couple could then try again for a healthy baby. I know many people will find that absolutely abhorrent and I wont argue for a minute that it should be legal.

If ever there was a match to start scoring this is it. Must win game is such a cliché but I'd be pretty hacked if all our efforts from last year came to nothing, at least as far as Europe is concerned. I think we've got enough to just about do it but we need to be a lot braver with the team selection than we were against Watford. I'd be tempted to try something like: Stek Cedric - Fonte - Caulker - Targett Wanyama - Romeu Mané - Juanmi - Tadic Pelle

What do you expect, all 9-3 ever does is start dull pointless threads, devoid of any particular talking point.

I don't get how that's relevant to this. We're talking about patients with terminal diseases consenting to euthanasia. You're talking about a doctor carelessly administering painkillers and killing a patient without consent, although that is coming from a Daily Mail article and they love a good sensational NHS story. As long as you had 2 or 3 separate medical opinions approving euthanasia and the consent of the next of kin, individuals like Dr Barton wont be an issue. The main question is, what gives you the right to tell someone else in chronic pain they aren't allowed to end their suffering?

For the last 3 years, that team pretty much picks itself. Maybe Davis in for Mané for the sake of balance. Maybe Shaw too. I think a Premier League 11 would be more interesting. Niemi Clyne - Svensson - Toby - Bertrand Wanyama - Morgan Lallana - Le Tiss - Pahars Beattie

I'm not sure what you're suggesting but this is a different world from doctors handing out carefree cold and flu meds. No doctor on the planet is going to suggest euthanasia for someone with a curable or even treatable disease. It wont be a case of, you've got lung cancer so lethal injection time. More a case of, 'you've got Altzheimers, would you like to be euthanised when you reach the point of drifting in and out of consciousness and surviving off a drip'.

Please can someone over the age of 8 rename this thread. Sounds like a disappointing result and performance. Pretty glad I couldn't get a ticket now.

Don't be too harsh on Long. He's scored twice already, he's only got 4 more goals to last the entire season.

I think certain media organisations and politicians would still report this as 'a heated debate both sides feel passionately about'.

Fonte will be 32 next summer, I've no idea why you think he has a big money move on the horizon. J Rod has a lot to do to prove he is still good enough for Saints before he can start dreaming bigger. Pelle will be 31 next summer and has had a fairly modest career in the Prem. Forster could yet miss the whole season and wasn't anything astonishing last season. Cedric needs to prove he is can defend before anyone above Saints will look twice at him.

Wanyama, Mané and...

Just bought Creswell for my FF team so this makes sense. I bought Gomis too, so expect a miraculous turn in form for Sunderland.

Man Utd draw 0-0 at home to Newcastle. The rest are about to kick off.

For I can't see any case against it, other than people trying to impose their religious beliefs on others. My Grandmother died of Alzheimer's a few years ago. We knew the day was coming for the best part of a decade after she was diagnosed. I've no idea if she would have wanted to end her life earlier than she did but she at least deserved the option.

It isn't about being right or wrong for him, it's purely about attention. There is no point trying to argue with him because he genuinely could not care less if he is right. As long as people are paying attention to him, that's all he needs. I kind of feel sorry for him that he has to resort to such sad behavior for people to pay attention to his life.

You can't tell the difference between writing a player off after 3 years and writing him off within 2 months and 8 days of signing? Gaston looked very promising when he first signed and was one of our best players until he was injured. Now is another matter, he's failed to deliver fairly consistently and doesn't seem to have the drive and desire to get fit and into the team.

No, it's all to do with inertia. You will maintain the same velocity until a force acts upon you to change that velocity. Once you jump in the air, the force of the train engine stops acting on you, so you will maintain the same velocity whilst the train continues to accelerate. The net effect will be you move backwards relative to the train. Of course in this situation the air inside the train will continue to accelerate, so instead of air resistance then air will be pushing you forward and cause you to accelerate, albeit by a completely negligible amount.

Actually I don't get what you mean as a players contract means everything. It's our choice whether or not we sell a player, he will only be gone if someone is willing to pay us what we think he is worth.

Actually they mean United have to pay us a massive amount of money to take him off us. If he didn't have a contract he would be going there for free.

From who? Nonsense IMO.

And Felaini, Lescott, Rodwell, Arteta and Gravesen.

And Sigurdsson, in a similar way to how we lost Toby. Michu sort of, until he got injured. Swansea don't really have any high profile players, just a solid squad with a decent team ethic. If they had anyone like Clyne or Morgan they would lose them too.

An option to buy only works if: a - The player actually wants to sign for us b - We don't have some weird buy out clause which completely negates the point of an option to buy in the first place. Neither of those was the case with Toby but we've used it in the past to our advantage with players like Chaplow, Rasiak and Saganowski.

And yet there he is. The point stands; it doesn't matter who he might end up playing for next year, if a player is good enough to play for us now we'd be foolish not to take him on loan. If I told you a year ago that Spurs would sign Toby this summer after his loan, would you still have taken him? Whether you think Januzaj is good enough or not is a separate issue. If that's the case then fair enough.

You're probably right, got me thinking though, imagine if Yugoslav was still one unified country. They would have one heck of a team. Begovic, Lovren, Srna, Rakitic, Modric, Pjanic, Mandzukic, Dzeko, Vidic, Corluka, Jovetic all in the same squad.