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That's what you think they are- doesn't mean because you believe in something its fact. Whilst religion or what you call 'cults' might not be so important in Britain at the moment, you only need to visit other parts of the globe to see how important faith is to so many, and that it can be an extremely positive thing for people who have less.

I'm agnostic myself. I understand that Clark. But no one can explain the world/universe/creation etc. I don't understand this need to mock people who do believe in a greater being though, putting all the emphasis on what they don't believe in, as opposed to offering what they do believe in.

I go to church in the morning. Always amazing how passionate some atheists manage to be, about not believing in something. Odd.

I'd say realistically £15-£20 for adults would be fair for PL football. Clubs like Dortmund think i'm right in saying its around the £10 mark on the terrace?

This. I don't understand the mindset of people who think it was completely due to standing? You can see why it is a potential political minefield, and the Hillsborough family support group, are doing everything they can to stop any progress being made. I of course understand why it would provoke emotion for them, but i don't understand their logic in being so hostile towards it? Surely it was fencing which was the real killer? And really that should have been done away with after the Bradford fire 4 years earlier.

Saw it too walking back to the station, didn't look good.

Ok thanks.

Are any unofficial coaches running for this?

Harriet Harman lurking like a snake in the background.

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Will gamble on these making it to general sale, but what with Fulham just before i'm sure they will.

Bradford or Bury away would do nicely.

It would be priceless..

Thats his personal view, whats the problem? Do you want all politicians to be PC zombies?

Cheers for that, which one did you book that one on, where you going?

18 stops, how did you manage that! That's the site i've been looking at Whitey, sounds a good trip that.

Cheers for that. Want to do NZ/Auss next year. But how to then go on to Rio from either one of them is the question.

Having a browse on roundtheworldflights.com, looks like there are decent deals to be had. Anyone ever done one, if so what destinations?

Vile..

UKIP could do really well in Rotherham. MacShane the expense fiddler should be enough for them not to vote Labour back in, no doubt they will though.

Same old Italians.

I never said it was clever or funny. All i'm saying is it would be wrong to assume everyone singing it is racist. I'm sure some people meant it in the context of how over the top the whole saga was, not as a tool to abuse his skin colour.

Halarious. Hundreds of thousands none the less, of tax payers money. I'm sure some people just meant it 'you know what you are, move on'.

To be fair, Ferdinand is a pathetic gimp who blew millions on a court case over a little spat, so i don't see the problem with people winding him up.

How hard can it be to just set up a simple online account with your points, like the FA do for Englandfans?