Saint86

I will wait patiently for the Reedist cult on here to defend yet another black mark against him.

Given Koeman had a massive falling out with Les Reed and was pushed out of the club. Do you really think he'll now come and work for Les Reed to save his backside? All the while giving up his payout from Everton for a £7m a year contract... I am doubtful on that front.

The writing was on the wall the second Cortese, Poch, and ambition left the club. Most saints fan's were happy to lap up the PR crap spewed by Les and Co (those who weren't were ignored / ridiculed) by the rest. The simple fact is, we were an investment she wanted sold, and in the meantime we were to get her as much money as possible. The fans should be chanting for Les Reed, RK out from now until it happens. They should have done this when Lambert, Lallana, Lovren, Chambers, Shaw etc were all sold after the lies that summer. Guan is right, our fans are not vocal enough.

Its dreadful to even think it. But some posters have said it already. Gao has a very large loan to service, and that's where the VVD money may be heading... Hopefully not though.

The way we are playing at the moment, I wouldn't feel confident predicting a single win. We are in free fall.

Here is a serious question for you. Do you think our players have relegation clauses in their contracts?

Guan you appear to know some stuff from behind the scenes right now because you are vehemently anti manager/board atm. Is that the case and are you able to share any of it with the fans? I feel like we've been kept treading water for a few years, and banking monies to pay off Kat and get us purchased. Also that our investor is really nothing but bad news sadly.

Needs to go. Sadly i think we are rotten from the top and that probably includes Gao.

It is hard to defend the manager in any way shape or form tonight (and I have been against sacking him). Did the wind suit the long ball team with nothing but pace/power players? Even so, there was no passion from our players second half. We got 1-0 up and then we sat deep and took no risks... We basically invited a team of long ball merchents to hoof it into our box and shoot from range. What the hell did we think would happen with the wind blowing towards our goal. Also, palace were on top and we waited and waited to change things. Then when we did, we bypassed our midfield and hoofed it with players that are ill equipped for that style of play. There can be no excuse from the manager (or the players) for that second half in a must not lose game! But when all is said and done. The squad is simply terrible. And it is no surprise where we are. We used to have Forster, Bertrand, Cedric, Toby, VVD, Fonte, Morgan, Wanyama, Davis, Mane, Tadic, Pelle. We have lost everyone in bold, and despite apparently making loads of money from tv revenues, sales, sponsorship etc etc etc... we have replaced every single one of them with a player who is no better and is often worse. That can only be the fault of this board. They fell out with Poch, they fell out with Koeman, they ripped up both their squads, hired puel, hired mopey... They are responsible for all of this and the club is in freefall.

I posted this would happen the summer we sold all our players (the first summer)... Was the inevitable end to the story. And now we get to hear all the pundits crowing until the end of the season saying "told ya so"...

So.... The saints are going down, with no money in the tank? No money in the tank? No money in the tank...

Our course was set the second Cortese went and Les Reed got in control. No ambition, no drive. Just sell of the jewels, bank most of the clubs income and find Kat a buyer whilst we trod water. Its a disgrace.

I hope you include this board in that statement.

People want to blame the manager, but this lot took a top 6 team that just missed champions league football - and created this in 12-18 months. And didn't get fired... WTF.

Les and the board are just as much at fault for this mess.

Les and this board need to go soon. Their tenure-ship has been an absolute train-wreck. Took the money and banked it whilst Kat got a buyer. And if you aim to stay still in this league you drop down. Simples. Negligence of the highest order.

Benteke is offside for that assist. We have been very poor this half though.

Dunno. But quietness is usually a good sign for us in fairness.

Fry is a complete tool tbh, if he was on ignore for everyone then this forum would be a much better place. Sadly the mods do nothing about him.

Lol. Talking about yourself again CBRFY?

Don't know whether to or

Yeah... because PEH has been dropped over the last couple of games...

Don't disagree, I just think he is hamstrung somewhat by the squad he has, and by the issues with VVD, Bertrand, Gabbi etc all wanting out. Not easy to come in and manage all that. He needs to be backed by our black box recruitment system and then given the season to see how he does. He has also been using Stephens, Target and McQueen vs Chelsea, Tottenham and United. None of them are that level of quality (yet). Although it is great to see them in the team and playing well.

On recent performances, its a better comparison to do Ali Dia vs Lemina...