Sergei Gotsmanov

I am afraid I do not read the Guardian Verbal; it is for lefties and surprisingly where the BBC does almost al of its recruitment. Nice try though. Still no comment on what the quotes say about the BBC? Are they made up? Do speak....

Very good at asking questions not so good at answering them. Back to those quotes, talk me through them and what they say about the culture at the Beeb. Maybe then you may understand why many suggest the BBC has a left wing bias.

I really cannot present my argument more clearly. Read the quotes and maybe comment on what it means for the tone of the news coverage (is the news not a programme)

http://order-order.com/2010/04/19/labour-candidate-is-bbc-bias-complaints-judge/ Yes remind me to do that Scotty.

I was going to ask 'you to be a phone a friend' when I get on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire but for all those long prentious words you are not as bright as you portray yourself. It is quite a straight forward argument; do you just not get it? Here goes then (can you tell me which quotes are wrongly attributed? It's not a conspiracy. It's visceral (Verbal makes mental note to use this word in future postings) They think they are on the middle ground", Jeff Randall former BBC Business Editor, in The Observer, Jan 15th, 2006 "The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities and gay people. It has a liberal bias not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias", Andrew Marr "I do remember... the corridors of Broadcasting House were strewn with empty champagne bottles. I'll always remember that" Jane Garvey "We need to foster peculiarity, idiosyncrasy, stubborn-mindedness, left-of-centre thinking." Ben Stephenson BBC Drama Commissioning Controller Peter Sissons says left-wing bias and political correctness is 'written through the BBC's very DNA' Is this straight forwa\rd enough for you. You can revert to being rude to me again now.

'the predatory, malign influence of Murdoch' etc etc - who's the foamer? I think Verbal you are struggling to understand the nature of the debate on BBC bias. I assume as you have refused to state which of the quotes attributed to the likes of Andrew Marr, Jane Garvey, Peter Sissons or Paxman are made up that you accept them to be true? In which case they acknowledge that there is a liberal left wing bias in the very culture of the organisation. It is this subtle bias that underpins much of the news coverage we receive. It is not so black and white as to be identifiable in programmes

Goodness who got us onto this private education theme?

I can promise you that it is possible.

Well mine are a little too young to judge! Our politics may be different but we have the same aspirations for our children.

Well it might surprise you BTF that I am going to opt for the other route something that means that I will miss out on a lot of the finer things in life.

err concentrate Verbal you started it.

So thats a no then. I am beginning to think there is a bigger gap than I thought between how high you hold yourself in regard and the reality.

So do I read into the last statement that the private school system is a welcome subsidy for the state system? People who make such a sacrifice for their children should be applauded in my opinion but I suspect BTF that you may have a contrasting view!

I am surprised that somebody with such a remarkable intellect cannot identify hypocrisy when it stares out at him. On one hand begruding the 'predatory, malign influence of Murdoch' (another entry for Pseuds corner?) and then telling us that those that feel the BBC has a similar unhealthy influence should shut up and pay.

So would those teachers have to be paid for by the State if there were no private schools?

alright alright BTF - I refer you to the reply I gave earlier; the BBC is supposed to be impartial because it is funded by the state the others are commercial and have to appeal to as wide an audience as possible.

It depends if you take the line that children who go to private schools are saving the state system 'huge' amounts by paying for their education and not relying on the State.

So to conclude, the public should be protected from the wicked Murdoch media but should have to pay for the BBC where a cultural left wing bias exists because you happen to sympathise with their politics. You would make a good dictator.

Its not a big idea. Its about choice and not having to subsidise an organisation that I do not want to. How do you think Murdoch implements his system?

So to conclude, its one rule for those that want to keep the wicked influence of Murdoch at bay and another that want to question the left wing bias of the BBC. I admire your honest hypocracy.

Its should their problem not the consumers.

We are not asking wether the Beeb is good value just whether paying should be compulsory.

Which of the quotes is made up then Pedg? Remove your blinkers.

If I recall the Beeb had to pull one of their adverts for being threatening a few years ago. You may feel it is value for money but what if I don't? I still have to pay; that is wrong in my book. (I actually agree with you that it is good value for money)

So Verbal the quotes on the right hand side are made up?