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Nasty piece of work in callous post shocker. You are quite right, it is in poor taste. Even poorer taste that someone finds it funny.

For those interested, Chief Constable Stephen Watson appeared on LBC yesterday and said that he doesn’t believe that our police forces are institutionally racist. His comments are currently being roasted by James O’Brien, again on LBC.

In an ideal world people would be stopped and searched in line with agreed official guidelines and ethnicity should only be a factor in the process where ethnicity is an actual determining factor. The fact that the difference has changed from ethnic minorities being 9 times more likely to be stopped to 5 times now would seem to indicate that progress has been made on reducing the amount of disparity due to ethnicity bias. Given that the population of the population of the UK is predominately white and the amount of of convicted criminals are predominately white, it seems reasonable to expect more white people to be subject to s & s than ethnic minorities overall. I guess the fact that independent enquiries are still finding that police forces are “institutionally racist” will still be a determining factor but will be ignored by those with a far right agenda as usual. https://news.npcc.police.uk/releases/police-action-plan-launched-aiming-to-address-race-disparities-affecting-black-people-and-change-a-legacy-of-distrust

Another play straight out of the writing room for Succession. Throw money at it to make it go away, but sadly it works. Murdoch will claim that they have not been found guilty of defamation so therefore it didn’t happen. It is a shame that we didn’t have the spectacle of a court case so that Murdoch (and Trump) were given the public scrutiny they deserve. Yet again cynicism, money and power call the shots. It reminds me of when Murdoch was hauled over the coals on the phone hacking scandal. He managed to save The Sun by closing down the less influential News of the World and promptly launched The Sun on Sunday thus giving it more clout in the process. $800m is a small price for Murdoch to pay to keep his position as Kingmaker in place and to ensure that his interests come first in the most powerful nation on the planet. More to come though. https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/fox-is-not-out-woods-yet-2023-04-19/

The issue is not about stop and search per se, it is about the fact that it is still not being used proportionately. 5 times more likely to be stopped if you belong to an ethnic minority yet Kemi Badenoch doesn’t seem overly concerned about that. You need to be careful Badger, once you get on the wrong side of the “We Aren't Racists Be We Jump All Over Those Who Speak Out Against Racism” gang you never get rid of them.

It is true that the police should use stop and search more on black people? It seems that an awful lot of white people are currently knifing people to death.

Would a white cabinet minister get away with saying this? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11983663/amp/Police-use-stop-search-despite-overly-affecting-ethnic-minorities-says-Kemi-Badenoch.html

Probably the worst centre half ever to pull on a Saints shirt.

At least we got our country back. Sadly though, sovereignty doesn’t put food on the table or pay the heating bills. Pathetic really that there are still people who think that the colour of the flag we stand under is far more important than the future of our children. It’s all okay though. Apparently, according to our very rich Prime Minister, all we have to do to turn things around is get better at maths.

I am not saying that the police did not go over the top in sending 5 officers (although I don’t know the reasons behind that decision) but the “far right” are lapping up the whole golliwog thing. And thanks for your advice egg, perhaps you should also pass it on to a few of your mates on here too. When you say that Braverman had a point, don’t you think that the Home Secretary could have at least check in with Essex police and asked for their reasoning before launching her attack on them?

Even some of her own party members think she is racist. She didn’t even bother to speak to the Essex police to find out their side of the story before she launched into her usual knee jerk anti woke rhetoric. No surprise there, or that the far right swallow it up. https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2023/apr/15/braverman-rebuke-police-golly-pub-dolls-home-office

Funny you should post this. Earlier I was thinking that Nathan Jones was the Liz Truss of the Premier League. How anyone can think that anything she says or did has/had any credibility in the real world is completely deluded. When history looks back at a period where people like Trump, Johnson and Truss were in power it will think that those who put them there were completely devoid of any vestige of cognitive thought.

Yet still he is making a better job of it than Donald Trump, as I expect your Dad would do too.

Strangely the issue of are golliwogs racist is a thing again thanks to a racist pub landlord having a selection on display in his pub and them being removed by the police. Surprise, surprise, Suella Braverman has also waded in on the side of the landlord. It seems I went to sleep in 2023 and woke up in 1970. Cue the usual white reactionary suspects on here lining up to argue that they are not. Things that are racist - Rishi Sunak & Suella Braverman https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2023/apr/12/tory-peer-warsi-accuses-suella-braverman-racist-rhetoric-grooming-gangs

A 19 year broadcasting career and this is the best you can do? Anything else? Do you have the same obsession with everyone else who was hoodwinked by him too or was O’Brien the only one? It’s good to see you finally worrying about people who destroy other people’s lives though. Perhaps you will eventually even turn against Suella Braverman, or don’t the lives of refugees count?

Thank you for you in depth and deeply considered reply. When I wrote that I was just giving my impression of him from what I had heard on the radio. Since then I have googled him and he considered himself a “centrist” a “liberal” and a “do gooder” (or in your parlance, a “pinko”). Given your support for the likes of Farage and Thatcher (does it still give you a stiffy when you type “Iron Lady”?) you clearly have no idea what it is like to hold a view that politics should be for all. Keep the foreigners out and keep the Lords in their castles whilst we doff our caps and let the gentry wipe their feet on us. His take down of the anti woke types and Brexiteer disaster deniers is a joy to behold. Perhaps you should give him a call Duckie? Do you have the balls?

I am a relative newcomer to the James O’Brien show but would agree that he spends a lot of time dissing Brexit. I have yet to hear anyone get the better of him on the subject though. From what I have heard so far I wouldn’t call him left wing at all, his views seem to be liberal and humanitarian to my ears. He seems to take great pleasure in pulling apart callers of the Gammon and anti-woke persuasion and again, I have yet to hear any of these people get the better of him. For that alone he is worth listening to because these are the very people who are trying to keep us rooted in a 1970’s mindset when the rest of us are desperate for this country to shed the millstones of the last century and to become a modern, forward thinking, open, caring society that works for all, not just the privileged few.

Sadly, that’s what stalkers are all about. Interesting that he used the words “furiously typing”. I “furiously” typed two whole words! I must have used up so much fury that I ran out of steam! His effort to troll when calling into doubt my support of Southampton is also laughable given that there is graphic evidence of my football posts on several different Southampton FC based social forum platforms going back decades. To quote Del Boy, what a plonker.🤪 (I didn’t see the match and was spending Easter Saturday with friends so am not qualified to comment on the game, not that I have to justify myself to a stupid internet troll/stalker)

Interestingly, Baroness Warsi is currently on LBC with James O’Brien talking about Home Secretary Braverman’s comments about Asian rape gangs and has referred to her language as “racist”. She has also pointed out the police and local councils often failed to prosecute these gangs when the information first came to light because the victims were seen as “trash” and not worth pursuing, not because they were being PC. She also made the point that it is ironic that one minute the police are being labelled racist because of the way they prosecute and deal with ethnic minorities and in this case they are labelled as being PC because they are supposed to be doing the opposite. This is a senior Tory politician of a ethnic minority, not an old White liberal keyboard warrior. It’s refreshing to hear someone from the right of centre commenting on this and completely contradicting the right wing attack dogs.

We live 5 or 6 miles from Sevington and completely agree that, so far, the site has been a total waste of money. They would be better off parking lorries there during Operation Stack rather than clogging up the M20. Mrs SOG’s niece works for Border Force and is assigned to Sevington. She is trying to get a transfer elsewhere as she is bored there.

Surprise, surprise! https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/08/home-office-admits-no-evidence-to-support-key-claim-on-small-boat-crossings

Hmmm, could that be because the LBC (like the Mirror and Guardian) aren’t driven by a right wing agenda and present outright lies as fact?

More dodgy dealings by the Tory government. https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2023/apr/06/benefit-sanctions-slow-peoples-progress-into-work-says-report-therese-coffey-suppressed

Racist jibes for calling out a xenophobe? I am not sure which of your crowd is more stupid. You I guess because you have been at it longer. Just think about what you are saying for one minute. You spend your posting life having a pop at foreigners and minority groups and you are trying to say that I share the same views as you have when I call you out for them. If you can’t work out what is wrong with this picture you are beyond help. It proves my point so thank you. The Tories are guaranteed votes from certain sections of our society because they are pig ignorant. Footnote: Thank you RB for restoring my faith in humanity and responding with intelligence. There are clearly huge issues with policing and the Criminal Justice System in general, but when putting the spotlight on sex crimes in particular it is also clear that the issues surrounding child sexual exploitation and serious sexual assault in general are not being addressed properly and just having the focus on a specific group speaks to a political agenda rather than a will to deal with the alleged crimes without prejudice. To that end it is good to see a number of these gangs brought to justice over the last few years, no matter what race or religion (even if the West Midlands crew wasn’t labelled as “white”).

So she won. When times are tough people need to apportion blame and that is why the current crop of Tories are targeting these minority groups; refugees, Asian sex offenders, trans people and you can throw in Lefty Lawyers and some judges who have been labelled “enemies of the people”. It is food and drink to the Gammons and they are still lapping it up, fuelled by the right wing media. Duckie would have it that the present Government are not right wing. He is wrong. You can’t get more right wing than demonising minority groups and stirring up the masses against them. It is why Lineker tweeted what he did and he is spot on. He poked the right wing apologists with a stick and we all watched them react. The same happens here. Defend a minority group, point out that the problems are wider than that and need to be seen in a broader context rather than being sucked in by hate propaganda and they swarm after you whilst stoking each other up in a feeding frenzy. Whilst it is depressing to see a dreadful human being such as Suella Braverman get a vote of confidence there is an upside. She will still be around to fight the next election and will hopefully remind the millions of people around the country that still have a shred of decency left what you get when you vote for this party.