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A small handful is hardly half the posters. I have no idea what they are but I respond to what you/they post and who you/they support. Back to the election, James O’Brien has retweeted a document that contains this quote - Shortly before Sunak called the GE he was presented with an itinerary by officials with the “International Leaders” event marked as “optional.” Sunak and his aides decided he should not attend in part because it was the “French Event” and was therefore considered less significant. Apparently he has cancelled all media interviews today. I wonder why that is?

Maybe because there is a greater problem in this country from the far right? Did you see the evidence that there is a much greater incidence of unacceptable behaviour from those with a far right agenda in the Reform Party? There has been plenty of discussion here about antisemitism in the Labour Party, much of it from you. Remember? Why are you always so quick to post against those criticising the far right?

I assume that you are deliberately being obtuse. If I was found to have sung a song about gassing Jews years ago, do you think you would ever let me forget it? Why so keen to let Farage off the hook so easily? Will you be voting for them?

What makes you think that he has changed? He is still leading a party full of racists and he is still a xenophobe with a xenophobic, ultra nationalistic agenda. Mussolini changed his political agenda. Singing about gassing Jews comes from a different place. This leopard can’t change his spots. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/nigel-farage-jews-muslims-palestinians-and-israel-his-most-controversial-quotes Yet Duckie still supports and votes for him? Most odd.

Its leader used to say that he was proud that he had the same initials as the National Front and sang songs about gassing Jews. And then there is this - https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/24/reform-uk-forced-to-remove-more-than-100-general-election-candidates-in-2024 https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/24374825.general-election-reform-candidate-horsham-loses-partys-support/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-68731487.amp Not so much in the 30’s though eh?

Just look at its roots and some of the deeply unpleasant candidates. But then if you had been around in the 30’s you would label Mussolini a pinko.

I hope that you are right about the LibDems. They should really make an effort in my constituency but don’t bother. It is a safe Tory seat with Labour well behind in second place but the demographic would be perfect for them to pitch to disaffected Tories. Farage did his usual stand up last night. He is very good at the negative, destructive, playing on people’s fears stuff but looks like a fish out of water when it comes to articulating constructive policies. Who will become the next Tory leader? They would be mad to go with Farage who would just give them another Johnson, plenty of front but no substance. Mordaunt comes across as one of the Stepford wives. Braverman, Badenoch and Patel would be more at home in Reform. Who is the sensible, moderate safe pair of hands waiting in the wings to unite the separate factions? A Rory Stewart type. How likely is it that, post election, the Tories and Reform will merge (National Conservatism?) with Farage moulding the new party in his own image? Warming more and more towards the Greens. They are upfront about the need to rejoin the EU, something that Starmer believes but is too frightened to go there after the last election debacle. It will be a bigger issue in the next election in 5 years’ time. We need new parties and new ideas. The same old same old last night between the Tories and Labour looks so 20th century.

Met office figures are bullshit?

Just seen the front pages of the press. The Mail and Telegraph don’t mention Sunak’s D-Day gaffe at all. The Express focus on his apology.

As with Sunak v Starmer the plan seems to be shout over the other and try and disrupt them and shoehorn in the £2k lie. Despite times call for desperate measures. They really are a mess. So much so that the Reform Party (National Front disguising itself as an acceptable political party) are hoovering up the support of many Tory (and some Labour) voters. This election is all about getting a dreadful Tory administration out. Labour will win but have an awful lot of work to do. Reform are going to make huge waves with protest votes but have no substance. They will have a massive impact on the future of the Tory Party though. The Greens will win a few more seats. The LibDems are in danger of falling behind both the wiped out Tories and the new kids on the block, Reform. The next ten years are going to be very hard. Putin will continue to play his brinksmanship games with the West. The Isreal/Palestine issue will continue keep the Middle East situation unstable. The economy is not going to bounce back any time soon. Public services will continue to deteriorate through lack of inadequate financing. I find it odd that Mordaunt kept banging on about tax cuts and accusing Labour of wanting to increase taxes. There is no way on earth that it makes sense to cut taxes. Even if you keep them at the same level you will have to increase borrowing to pay for what is needed. Flynn was right. Neither the Tories or Labour are being totally honest about how difficult our financial situation is. To give Labour credit, at least they look gravely concerned when talking about it whereas the Tories are just blagging it. Labour will win, but Farage is going to be the one they will need to dealing with. The current Tory Party are toast and LibDems have no punch.

Yes I know. I feel dirty. 😳 So back to the debate. Both Rayner and Mordaunt seemed stiff and paralysed. It was the panelist’s who are in no danger of governing who spoke with more freedom. Only the Greens and the SNP brave enough to talk about the elephant in the room - Brexit

I have tried to hold this in for so long, but no longer. Phil Foden’s haircut.

Didn’t say anything outrageous? What about welcome to the benefits?

I don’t see the point of these debates before the manifestos are published.

It was going to happen one day hypo.

I suppose, given the law of averages, this had to happen eventually. I agree with Farage about something. Proportional Representation. Even though it will give his party a seat or two. I wish they would turn off the other microphones when someone is speaking. So irritating when they talk over each other. Mordant obviously told to keep repeating £2000. Hislop on HIGNFY just mentioned that the Tories have raised taxes by £13k. £2k seems like a bargain.

I doubt it. We are in an area that includes Tenterden and the Blue Rinse Brigade now. I think the incumbent Tory is going to be safe.

We talk about Arabs, Muslims and Islamists in generic terms too don’t we? As we do Russians, Ukrainians, Americans….

There are Jewish survivors of the Holocaust who make the same points in the same way.

Sod’s Law. There has been a boundary change where I live. We were previously in the constituency of Folkestone & Hythe which is now predicted to swing from the Tories to Labour. Our new costituency is Tory and it is predicted to be held. Bugger.

If Jeremy Corbyn goes through a proper investigative process and is found to be antisemtic I will be the first to congratulate you for being right. Read all three articles though and tell me that there is conclusive evidence that he is.

Good. But I doubt you will.

It is true though, from the Israeli government down to internet keyboard warriors. Only a few weeks ago the Israeli government was accusing the UN of antisemitism. These circular arguments are tiresome. I will say this for the last time. My view is and always has been that both Israelis and Palestinians have equal rights to live in peace, without interference from the other within secure, agreed boundaries. Both sides need to agree to be bound by international law and adhere to UN resolutions. Palestine should be recognised as a state in its own right by all and the state of Israel accepted by all. The fighting has to stop now and talks begin to work towards a resolution that will be acceptable to all. Both sides are responsible for where we are today and both sides have equal responsibility for finding an equitable and peaceful solution. I think most normal, rational people would agree with those points as being something that should be aspired to. I am not sure how that fits in with a raging, Jew hating, antisemitic agenda, but there you go. If you have polarised view you will only see it one way anyway. https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/opinions/2019/12/7/is-jeremy-corbyn-a-threat-to-british-jews https://unherd.com/2020/10/is-corbyn-really-an-anti-semite/ https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/is-jeremy-corbyn-really-anti-semitic/

I have already said that he handled the antisemitic claims badly. He has Jewish constituents who say he is not antisemitic but believe what you want. We have already been told by Duckie that if you criticise Jewish people that makes you antisemitic. We know now too that if you are pro Palestinian you are antisemitic. The bottom line is you cannot say anything against this Israeli government and the conduct of their military with being labelled antisemitic. It is a Get Out Of Jail Free card but it has been overplayed and Netanyahu’s government and their actions are the reason more and more people are speaking out against them.

NO matter what happens, Delldays will post about the marvellous Farage performance, afterwards