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Although to be pedantic, many of these players never played in the EPL. They played in the old Division 1.

I dont see any problems with the peaceful and law abiding followers of Islam. I am sure they would argue that those who practice anti-social activities and base their actions on the Koran are misinterpreting the teachings - much the same with other religions. These religions are not going to go away. We either learn to co-exist or this crap will go on forever.

I know that you think all foreigners are the same Batman, but surely you know the difference between Russians and Japanese? As a serviceman you would also be expected to know that the Germans surrendered to the Allies (which included the Russians) in May 1945, well before America dropped the bombs on Japan.

CB Fry, alpine_saint, Shurlock & hypochondriac. Legends one and all!

Given that that some people wanted Pellegrino out after 8 games, isnt it a bit previous to say Hughes no matter what? I know that this is Saintsweb, but judging after one game???

Venice. A living museum.

No, you are right. Everyone should be sacked unless they are an unqualified success after one game.

That is not what I heard initially. When first reported they said at the time they believed it to be racially motivated. That may have changed since. So you dont think that there are any racists on this thread?

There has been a backlash against Muslims and immigrants in general both on here and throughout the country vG. That is the issue. You say I dont see any issues at all. I dont see any issue with Islam and peaceful law abiding Muslims. Why should I? Why should anybody? I do have issues with anyone who kills, maims, rapes etc. whatever their religion, colour, creed. You talk about Islam gaining territory in Europe as if they are invading? When people of different races, religions etc feel under threat they tend to become even more insular and less tolerant. There are clearly issues between church and state but we need to work with all religions and factions and find a way that works for all. Seeing them as the enemy and something that needs being resisted is only going to perpetuate the problems. You highlight the areas where there are problems, perhaps we should also talk about the areas where there is integration and where people find a way to live together peacefully and hold those up as the models that we should be aspiring to. Simplistic? Yes. But surely better than division, suspicion and intolerance.

I wonder how he would have done with the one on one that Gabbi missed or the penalty?

I dont disagreed that there a big problems within the Muslim communities in a number of areas van H. They clearly need to be addressed. What hacks me off is the grief that the millions of peaceful and decent people get on the back of negative stuff which has nothing to do with them. I really dont know what went on with Rochdale etc regarding cover ups, but there have clearly also been major cover ups in both the C of E and the Catholic church regarding sexual abuse, so it isnt limited to one faction. Still it goes on. A young girl called Mariam Mustafa has died after what is deemed to be a racist attack in Nottingham. Not that it will be of interest to those on this thread who seem to sympathise with Britain First (although I am sure that hypochondriac will be along shortly to make a cheap shot out of her death, just as he did to Razvan Sirbu). The only way forward is more tolerance and understanding on both sides.

I don't think that possession in itself is the problem. You see plenty of teams passing around the back four and midfield waiting for openings and all the while you have the ball they cant score. It is what you do when you attack that counts and our finishing has been rubbish for ages. We are something like 7th in the league for most shots on target and if a better % of those shots had ended up in the net we wouldnt be where we are now. Apparently it is the poor quality of chances that we make that mean that we dont score enough. If Hughes can sort that out we should be ok.

I once warned Always that you were like internet herpes and that once you contracted hypochondriac you had it for life. Sadly that seems to have been proven 100% true. You sound like a small boy who never really left the playground. Do you ever read your posts back to yourself? Surely you must be able to see how pathetic you come across? There is a reason why you fall out with more people each day. You also seem to be losing the plot. You did post that you would be ok with us losing against Wigan if it meant Pellegrino was sacked. What kind of supporter would pass up on an FA Cup semi-final for any reason? You say that your father-in-law likes you but didnt mention about your other in-laws, who also probably think that you are an immature ****. If you work, is your boss aware that you spend most of your days trying to wind people up on an internet forum? As for the other poster who you seem to be linked with and also seems to be bored all day so gets his jollies by trolling, I haven't lived in Maidstone for several years. I do think that the club was right to sack Pellegrino and I do think that they should have sacked him earlier. Is that clear enough for you? For those who seem to feel the need to personalise everything and find it a heinous crime to lose football matches, most football managers fail and it is possible to be a decent human being and to manage a club in the relegation zone. Duckhunter was spot on. Pellegrino has shown more class than many supporters. Hughes is lucky. If he manages to keep us up he will be a hero, if he doesnt he can bail out in a few months time and avoid the grief. Mind you, that will probably be aimed at Reed anyway. Oh, and when are you coming back to Sotonians hypo? We miss you.

Utterly mental, some people would like to see us get knocked out of an FA Cup quarter final. Says a lot about one particular so called fan.

Batman - No. I would probably have sacked him in January. I dont think it is unreasonable to give a new manager up to the New Year to get to grips with a new job. CB Fry - Pot. Kettle. Black. I will do a deal with you. I will start getting over myself the day you do, ok? Alpine - What is tedious and pathetic is your never ending negativity and constant need to find sticks to beat the club with. Just because he didn't do well with us doesn't make him a bad human being. Character wise, Pellegrino is the polar opposite to Redknapp. He has always come across as decent and dignified man. This thread is called "Is There Anything Good We Can Say About Pellegrino?" There are plenty of other threads where you can vent your spleen about his poor record as a manager for us. Oh, and you are the one who brought up Lowe, not me.

Absolutely this, especially one on this thread again having another cheap pop at another poster (and who thinks it is clever and funny to make fun of a young man's brutal murder). Of course he wrote those words himself. Anyone who has heard and read his interviews would know that. He is clearly a decent, dignified and respectful man. Why should he have resigned? He wanted to turn things round and was on the brink of an FA Cup semi-final. How many managers would turn their backs on that? How many managers ever resign? All he is guilty of is not winning football matches. Hardly a hanging offence, although you might think it was given the way some people react.

Go back and read what you wrote. You said you would not read it because as it was in the Telegraph "so bound to be the 'club' defending its corner." It isnt at all. But even if it was, perhaps reading something that challenges your built in prejudices occasionally wouldn't hurt?

I seem to remember the only upside to not sacking Pellegrino when all the other managers were being sacked is that we weren't suckered in to giving jobs to the likes of Hodgson, BFS, Pardew, Pulis and Hughes. D'oh!

There is a clue in the op. It is not defending the club.

You are one sick individual. But I am sure your Muslim in-laws think you are a hoot.

Classy as ever, pal

Writing a new manager or a team off after a couple of months remains the preserve of a consummate bed wetter. Dalek has been going on about 17th place for years. We might actually finish 17th this year but it doesn’t make him Mystic Meg. There are posters on here who have been saying that we will fail ever since Cortese left yet we continued to improve after he left. The league is full of clubs our size who go through good periods and poor periods. This season is a poor period. It was going to happen sometime.

Worse than Pelle?

Dont we get more money if we stay up?

Clearly there are issues with some elements of how some Muslims interpret the Koran but I think it goes deeper than that. Racism? Tribalism? Despite some on this thread not having it, there is very obviously a disparity between how sections of our society view criminal acts carried out by people viewed as not being of our society than those from within it. A Muslim or an immigrant carry out a criminal act will get far more media attention than someone as seen as being one of us. There has been another example of this yesterday in Oldham. A man was stabbed to death in Oldham after attending prayers in a mosque. You can bet your mortgage that Batman would have posted something about this if a Muslim had attacked a non Muslim. As it is it doesnt warrant a mention. Same crime but not worthy of comment on a thread that has been dealing with issues between different factions in our society. My wife and I were talking about a similar situation the other day. We both have children from previous partners and agree that we are more tolerant of our own children's behaviour than we are of others. I am less tolerant of her son's behaviour and she of my daughters. Another example relates to our very own football club. When Cortese was in charge and there was a lot of talk about his behaviour, there were lots of comments about he might be a **** but he is our ****. If he had been running another club he would have got a dogs abuse regarding his behaviour, but as he was one of us, our tribe, we could live with it. It is human nature and it happens all the time. I just dont see why some posters on here pretend that is isnt happening when this very thread is living proof that it is.