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It was always going to be a tough season to follow if Pochettino, Shaw, Lallana and Lambert had stayed. More and more managers were working out how to play against Pochettinos style. We needed to sign new players but given the Osvaldo debacle there is no guarantee that any new players would improve the squad. There is realism and their is pessimism. You seem to dwell in the oh dear category rather than looking at the positives. We could actually end up with a better manager than Pochettino and a better squad you know.

Blimey mate you must have an awful lot of spare time on your hands. Not happy with starting your own doom and gloom posts anymore you have to Google the internet to find doom and gllom from other fans. As yet it is not a mass exodus although I accpet some more players could leave. I dont know where he got JRod going with England if he had been fit because he clearly wasnt (who would he have gone instead of?). Nit picking aside, no one player or manager is bigger than the club and replacements wil come in. No one knows at this moment how they will fare but it isnt out of the realsm of possibility that we could do better than last year. Koeman could more up his sleeve than the high pressing game and he could bring in players who will score the goals that seem to dry up for us the longer the season went on. We arent the first club to lose players to bigger clubs and we wont be the last. We were lucky to have the quality in the squad to take us from Div 1 to the Premieship but now, not surprisingly, a number of these players want to take advantage of the fact that they are now sought after by bigger clubs. We have a new manager and will have new players to look forward too. It is going to be a very very long summer if you and your chums paw over every last nuance of players leaving to better their careers. Longer still if you drag up every utterance from people who support other clubs.

St Charlie and his other pessimistic bed-wetting fans would. The reasonable ones would wait and see who came in before they made such knee jerk reaction.

One story said that we wouldnt sell Shaw for less than £40m. Another had Steve Bruce as our new manager.Another had us signing a keeper whose name I forget just before he signed a new contact at his current club. So not all turned out to be true.

Chris Marsden was brilliant for us!!!

Townsend seems to have an issue with us? I wonder if it is because he never really made it here and it was only when he left for Villa that his career took off?

Pochettino would have stayed under Cortese? You know that as a fact do you? The club is toxic? LOL. Do you really think someone like Koeman would join us if the club were "toxic." Not surprising people have left for more money and bigger clubs. We have come a long way in a short space of time and surprise, surprise, some people have decided to cash in their chips and move on. Life goes on. The club will go on. The club is not toxic and because it is in such good shape that is why many of our staff are coverted by other clubs.

Whats up with the top of Debbie Harry's nose?

Of course they wont. They have Champions League football and are a very big club. We dont and we arent. Very successful manager? Pochettino? We finished 8th and didnt win any cups. A good season but very successful, I dont think so. Over the years we have picked up some gems - Pahars springs to mind. There is no reason why we cant end up with a strong squad and kick on. We can never compete with wages but we can make shrewd signings. Lets see who comes in.

When you get to my age Minty the obvious is a blessing. Anything vaguely imaginative went with my hair years ago!

A fence?

Dont recall us saying we wouldnt sell. Only that if we did it would be on our terms which is what has seemed to be the case.

We are victims of our own success but surely it is better to be where we are with top clubs wanting our players than where we were a few years ago with no one wanting our players? We do exactly the same and are looking to see who we can poach from other clubs. If we cant keep these players at least we are generating an income for the club from them that will help us compete in the Premiership.

Heard someone on TalkSport today say that Sturridge had done well. If he had we will be in the next round. If he doesnt improve at this level you have to wonder where the next prolific striker is going to come from. We are also light in the centre half dept. This is the first competition where we have fallen between two stools. As another poster said earlier, it came a lot too early for some and a little too late for others. Hodgson has a lot of work to do but we need to start by making sure we have our best young players playing in competitions as Stuart Pearce has been banging on about for months. It is no good doing the business in qualifying and then blowing it when it comes down to the serious stuff.

Liverpool have made an enquiry but apparently there is a sticking point about possible add ons. They are baulking at our wanting an extra £5k for her to provide of Victoria Sponge every afternoon on the trolley.

Here you go again. You must be related to Alpine surely? Do us all a favour will you and wait until we see who comes in before you post any more of this negative nonsense.

You are right for once mate. it is bedwetting. Players will go and replacements will come in. Think about this, we could end up with a better squad than we had last season. I am as gutted as anybody else that we are losing these guys but no one is bigger than the club. I have seen players like Martin Chivers, Ron Davies, Mike Channon, Steve Williams, Theo Walcott and the Ox all leave and guess what, the world still turns, the sun still rises and life goes on.

Team of mercenaries? Maybe players will join us because they can see we are a progressive club and want to be a part of that? Is Lovren a mecenary? Borac?

Lactating? And what is going on downstairs?

Fiesale? I have read some negative drivel on this forum over the years St Charlie but you take the biscuit. You seem to look for the negative spin in everything. A firesale is what you do when you sell assets to pay off creditors. Players come. Players go. At the moment the only player to have left is Lambert. Why dont you wait and see excatly who leaves and who comes in before he start any more meltdown threads. You really need to get out more. You are in danger of becoming the Suarez of the forum - prolific but barking mad.

How do you RK hasnt spoken to Shaw?

Judge him on his performance against Germany in the 5-1 match or several others at that level and he has proved that he is class. He would still walk into any Premiership side. Listen to the way ex pros talk about him. I'd have him at Saints now in a heartbeat. Anyway, scenario E) We appoint a new manager. The manager comes in and assesses the squad. He and the club sit down and decide who they want to keep and who they want to let go. The manager talks to the players who want out but who he wants to keep. If he cant persuade them to stay and the club decide there is no point in playing hard ball, the club seeks to sell for the best deal going and we get in a quality replacement.

You know this for a fact or is it just your opinion?

So you are not happy that a new crop of players - Lallana, Barkley, Sterling, Shaw are coming through the ranks? The manager found a way to get us through? So are you saying that it is Hodgson's fault that Rooney and Sturridge missed chances? The dividing line between success and failure is so narrow. How many times did Saints dominate possession only to be hit by a sucker punch last season? Was that Pochettino's falut or down to the players for not taking their chances? You say that you enjoyed Italia 90 because we didnt play brilliantly but we lost on penalties in the semi. So for you it is just about scrapping through as far as we can? Hodgson could have played safe but to fair to him he did go for it and that is why we are out. at 1-1 in both games he could have sat back and protected what he had and we would have scrapped through. I still dont think you would hve been happy because you clearly think Hodgson is an idiot. At the moment we are clearly not good enough at this level. The team is in transition and new players are coming through. Pundits were saying bfore the WC that Hodgson should use this competion to start blooding new players for 2016 - which is what happened. There are no givens in life, especially in football. If Rooney and Sturridge had been more clinical you can imagine the clamour and expectation now but it would be exactly the same management structure and squad. SPain and Italy are also out but I am sure they did all they could in prep to go as far as they could in the competition. We dont have a Gazza or a Platt. The "Golden Generation" have been and gone. Hodgson can only work with what he has. We currently dont have a quality defence. Do you expect Saints to challeneg for honours every year? We had a good run but are now playing with the big boys and the challenges get more and more difficult. You can see from the way that the so called lesser teams have progressed that it is getting harder and harder on the bigger stage. As long as the Premiership employs as many foreign stars as it does we will struggle to produce enough quality to get to another semi finals, let alone win anything. How many competitions have Holland won? They are held up as an example of a nation that plays the game the right way but like us, they struggle to win anything. We need to temper our expectations in line with our ability to deliver.

Or maybe he will be encouraged to help us move up to the next level?