OldNick

It was not a league position of course, but a measure how effective he was gaining points against the other 92 clubs totals. No doubt if he was in the top 15 he would still be here and that would be put under my nose to review. It is an indication of his tenure.

That is superb logic and correct of course, I assume 19 other PL clubs were in the bottom 70 or so

I'm not sure they have done their own money, perhaps saddled the club with more loans/debt. Our owners are very wealthy but I don't think they have untold millions free to put into the club.

No problem to me, I wouldn't have brought it up if Sydney hadn't highlighted it. It was odd but football does strange things to us.

Just comparing my thoughts to yours, you worship RH whilst I felt CP did a better job

I don't care he cried after beating Liverpool, it was bizarre. Ive seen many Saints managers beat Liverpool and none gone on their knees and sobbed. I nearly sobbed after the 2 9-0's Ill give you that, although really just thought typical life of a Saints fan. You lament RH gone, I lament Puel not being given a fair crack after what he achieved. It was not his team at that stage as he had'nt bought his players in. Yes I know people blamed him for not progressing in Europe but didnt we miss some sitters that would have got us through. Watch the League cup semi final and the final and watch some superb entertaining football, not many managers can say they beat Klopp hoe and away in a 2 leg cup competition. Of course RH was better at post match interviews as he could speak good English, not many on here could do an interview in a second language and be entertaining

I suggest 90 in points league suggests 90 other clubs had achieved more points, 90 managers doing better. RH is/was a busted flush and we are one of a few fanbases who would ever put up with the humiliations he put upon us. Puel achieved far more and had we gave him a season I feel we would be better placed.

I agree, in fact it would be devastating if we did go up playing this type of football. Even Kamikazi pilots would turn down the chance of playing for us!!

Problem the Loch Ness Monster has hardly been seen, and the Drogba version may be the same!!!

If by some miracle we do go up, how much would it cost to get a half decent team that will compete? The 150m we've just taken will pale into significance

would you trust those buffoons with a footballing decision, inept?? If they got rid of RM they'd probably go for some other hipster who talks in riddles and doesn't take on board that the Championship is a hard league, where you need some grit in midfield and also some of Nathans kick and run. Before that you have to actually have players that are cut out for grafting and getting stuck in, we haven't

We're reaping what RH sewed. Were we not 90th in the league for points won under his tenure. You obviously like him and so are pro him, but he owed us more than ever we owed him. No manager would survive the 9-0 and not get sacked, then to walk away with 5m or more.

Well I didnt want Puel gone and he finished with a far better position and if fate had not been cruel we would have a cup. Ralph got us to a semi final and was the worst negative performance possible, add to that some real bashings

Absolutely NOT, he was another who played the game the same negative way. Ings great season papered over the cracks of his poor football. Ings scored goals from nothing, in games where we were going nowhere. He is another who got the players to stop going forward allowing the opposition to reset.

We are his accomplishes, our idiot society allowed him to get into the position so that he could take advantage of his fame, so that women could be picked out of audiences to satisfy his lust. He would not be the first, I doubt there are many pop stars or celebs who haven't done the same. We (not me) found him hilarious that he was given shows, we are as guilty as he is because we still promote absolute bell ends, due to shows like Big Brother, Love Island etc etc etc who get their moment of fame and the top brass at tv companies don't act

would you trust those buffoons with a footballing decision, inept?? If they got rid of RM they'd probably go for some other hipster who talks in riddles and doesn't take on board that the Championship is a hard league, where you need some grit in midfield and also some of Nathans kick and run. Before that you have to actually have players that are cut out for grafting and getting stuck in, we haven't

Behave, hes an incredible manager and anybody who thinks he wouldnt improve any team is IMO a tad foolish

In the main I agree, but I dont on Sullemana is unfair, imo he was in the wrong position, ideal to be upfront to take flick ons, his pace is an advantage but we play him wide and the passage of play is slow and losing the advantage of his speed. The instructions seem to be play it back not be incisive. All the early season excitement has faded, the fans were well up for it, but already the stuffing has been kicked out of us due to the negative play. Seeing full backs overlapping at pace and players flooding the box adds excitement that gets the fans on board , that in turn lifts the atmosphere. Having playing fiddling around the back makes the fans nervous which in turn finds it way to the pitch

Another hipster type coach with lots of bull.

I really cant fathom the playing out from your on goal. You are not going to score from there and more likely to concede, whereas a pressing style of play right upfield gives you far more chance to gain an advantage. The opposition know you are playing to hope to draw them out and so set themselves accordingly, no surprise factor. We haven't built a squad for this league, no aggressive midfielders who win the ball, no height in attack and so little chance of winning aerial duals

I only watched the 2nd half and we were the more dominant team but got us nowhere as like other managers before, we dont take advantage of a break away we just slow the attack down, just to make sure the opposition are all in their right places and reset, very gentlemanly of us

If my memory serves me correctly the bunch of chances who own the club wanted the American who was sacked by Leeds, they left RH too long, got NJ, Selles and now RM. I wouldn't trust them to be able to judge a jam competition at a village fete let alone judge a good football manager. I will say it again Semmens was caught out by their sales pitch and gave them the keys, rather than the 2 other bidders who had more finances. They are appalling owners and Gao was better, people will scoff but time will prove me right.

But there was the overconfidence that we were going to walk it. Wilcox was a genius, he may have been good at selling players but he didn’t build a side that was going to cope with the rigours of this league. He must have been part of the decision makers to get RM. At present it looks like a massive mistake

Thanks for that I’ve just put it on, although may curse you later

I think it is such a shame the blind faith fans had in RM was so unfounded. Is Wilcox still the best thing since sliced bread, as he has not built a side that is suitable for this league and I assume part of selecting this manger with this style of football