OldNick

I dont thnk he wants pictures of scantily clad ladies today MB. Show him a few shots of gundogs or a few dead ducks (not the first team squad and manager) that will cheer him up more

if things were not bad enough we have the return of the biggest pr### to roam this site. If he registers as a member i might do something silly.There is a large oak tree across the road and ive got a noose.

watching Stoke yesterday mafde me hanker for the PL again, watching us made me hanker for us to stay up and see the team try and develop. A bit depressed about Saints today.

when optimists like you are concerned then we are in a bad way BS

there are two ways of looking at a viable team and taking extra losses to get be in that position. To get more of their money back they have to lend us more money currently to get more money back later. Or they keep us just afloat without taking more risk enough to get the stadium debt interest paid and also the overdraft down.Forget nit they still have3 the asset and if we do go into administration whoever takes over will have to rent the stadium back. To a degree a lot of the banks money is safe, they just dont want to increase our overdraft and in fact reduce it. That is why Saga etc needed to be offloaded.I worry for us in jan when Rasiak etc's loan runs out and he will be back, thus more heavy wages back on the payroll.Which leads us to the reckless contracts the club agreed to, I don't recall if RL was in charge then or not.

yes that is something noibody has picked up on James? was pushed in the back by Blackstock.

Firstly you would have to accept that banks know something about football to understand that concept.Secondly Saga would have to perform and score something he didnt do mush of since he got his contract. Putting 1500 on the gate will take more than Saga playing. You have to put yourself in lc or RLs shoes when putting forward a plan that the banks will accept, especially in the financial conditions at the time.In fact if we have to go to them now I suspect that they would pull the rug. We had to show ways we were trying to cut the costs and players like Saga would be big figures for the banks to gobble up and be pleased. As I said they are calling the tune and look at it as their money and dont care if we go down as long as they get their investment back. (that could be said of RL and Wilde of course)

In what way? I thought the Sheff utd ones were good and cant recall your lot.

We were looking the better side and the QPR players had lost their way until they got that obscene decision. We may well still have lost but at least it would have been down to honesty not dereliction of duty by the lino. Taht goal was a kick in the teeth and for quite some time we lost our discipline. Move on we seem to be cursed at present.

When did you stop going when you lived in the UK? Fans have been deserting since relegation and as time goes by there will be a natural decline as the disappointment will just make some give up. RL did not sanction those players you mention, and it shows that the wages they were taken on with are not sustainable by any other club even though there is no fee required.How is that RL's fault.It is patently obvious to every club they can have them for nothing. Again the bank said it would support LC as long as he sold/rid us of any asset that could be sold. RL woud have had to adhere to that and satisfied the banks for their continued support. We were fortunate that so many players came out of contract and their high wages were shed, some are still here and harder to shift that s### off a shovel. I agree RL is going for the cheap option but that is the most viable way forward.I defy anyone to accept that going into adminsitration and a minus 10 or 15 points would be recovered from. Playing this way we have avoided losing at least 10 points and whoever was in charge(manager) would have a team similar to we have now as the receivers would sell any player for almost any price to get the banks money in. We do not have the luxury of saying like it or lump it to the banks, it is them calling the tune.

I have wondered about the Perry thing and think perhaps that as we have so many injuries at the back he has to keep him fit for the more important home games coming up.It can be the only sensible reason, if not it was a terrible mistake.

your figure does include full allocation of man u fans and the plastics who go to watch them of course.

I have just put a post up in response to yours on the 'thoughts of those at the game' please read it. Collapsing attendances happen when the team does badly, I dont think anyone argues with that.I dont know or have missed posts by you on that subject and so do not understand what context you are putting that to me.

for the first time I actually see that you care Alpine. You saw the game and perhaps will be more understanding to others.Your concerns are spot on but nobody can come up with a viable proposition other than what we have now, and that includes me.

I dont know what case you are on about. If it is the defence,where have I said it wqas any good? I just see that there doesnt seem any alternative to what we are doing in the present financial position.If you can come up with a pla to cut our 100k-300k a week losses and still have a lot of quality experienced players in the side then Im with you.If not then we have to get on with it. Business is about forward planning.The powers that be knew that the parachute payments were coming to an end, they then should have been prudent. They had the fruits of Walcott, Bale baird and Jones, and even then we were losing money.Surely the alarm bells should have been ringing that we wouldnt find those every season to bail us out. RL was there when we got relegated, some was down to him, the Wilde bunch took over on false promises and then to curry favour they went on a spending spree and took on long term committments regarding wages.We are now paying for that gamble.So rest your case when you can come back and give us well thought out answers to your case.I am prepared to listen but you must realise finance comes first.

KD has been a superb keeper for us for quite some time. I know he will make mistakes as the season goes on but name me a keeper who doesnt f### up? Wright made some howlers 2 games in a row for Ipswich, and as he has only just gone bacdk I suspect they have fans who dont rate him. We are fortunate to have a quality keeper in KD and its about time you gave him credit and take your blinkers off.

Isnt it about time for Roger and out? Where were you 2 weeks ago when we had won at Derby and beaten Brum.I wasnt carried away with it then and am not getting too despondent now.When you reach puberty you will understand Rome wasnt built in a day. When you see MC ask her is it true that LC was told the bank would support the club as long as we made major cuts and had to sell many of our assets. Having NP here is not an exact science we dont know how a team that would have been dismantled by him and rebuilt would be any better placed.In fact to get the job he would have had basically the same squad as Jan. He may have got a few different old players who wrere on Bosmans but still would have had to sell Davies.

the Wilde bunch oversaw all that went on after RL. They were all in the boardroom making the decisions.LC should have stemmed the flow of outgoings.

All due respect but when we did it was not good enough for some.

for me it was the linesmans decision that ruined the game.

Luxury Volvo, back here we use those to cart manure....funny that I just see the trick of fate with that one. As for a Renault Clio... yuo are on the internet you dont have to tell the truth you could drive an Aston Martin....but I realise that a Renault Clio to you lot is what a Aston Martin to us. Have a great time, and have you had the mounties yet

It is a fantastic branding and gets all my Pompey mates uptight as in their heart of hearts know its true and never have a comeback.

thanks for that, it always is cheering to hear such things after a 4-1 defeat.

bloody hell, what is happening. As I said before get that White Witch back

for what it is worth I would have wanted Billy Davis as well.