ErwinK1961

What a crock of sh*t.

My favourite bit was when he tried to clean out the Leeds player but was too weak to even make a dent in him, so he had to resort to the shirt pull instead.

Maybe in the minority, but understood the Sulemana sub - they had doubled up on Manning and KS wasn’t going to give him the protection needed. Fraser did nowt going forward but defended and tracked back. First half the best I’ve seen there for a long time. Second half felt like they struggled to get back the intensity they had and passes were sloppy. Che was garbage after he came on, don’t recall a pass making it to a teammate and just bounced off him. Leeds were trash. Charles in for Smallbone and Stewart in for CA or SA when fit and that’s a very nice team.

You’re not alone there mate

Can’t trust him to do what Russell? Give the ball away every 5 seconds and create fck all, like the rest of them?

Yes, referring to “Janny B” was the final straw

He could arguably plead a bit of mitigation with injuries since the QPR game - however if he doesn’t start with THB, Bednarek at CB and Charles, Downes at CM today then he can leave.

Baz, KWP, THB, Bed, Manning, Downes, Charles, Alcaraz, Edozie, Adams, A N Other (take your pick, they’re all crap).

Hmm personally I expected us to struggle, it’s 5 years of funk to shake off and that wouldn’t change overnight. Didn’t expect this level of kamikaze football / mistakes though.

Maybe the hope being beaten out of the fans, might lower expectations and take a bit of pressure off. Surely no-one believes we’ve got a chance of going up this year now. Got to have a settled team - Baz, THB, Bednarek, KWP, Charles (in fcking midfield), Downes, Alcaraz, Sulemana, Edozie, Stewart (when fit) need to play every week. Larios can’t be as bad as Manning surely?

Well there’s usually one team of the relegated three that is a car crash, think we can safely confirm who that is this year. Hello Watford, Stoke, Huddersfield, Swansea, Cardiff - you’ve got a new friend here to stay.

I guess I’m classed as a Martin apologist, but that was a step too far tonight. Utterly suicidal and shambolic tactics. This lot can’t play how he wants. Not sure there are many teams that can, we are not City. You have to cut your cloth accordingly. I have never in my life seen in professional football a 3 on 0 before 70mins. Or 3 goals conceded after basically one misplaced pass. Utter incompetence.

Time this thread was moved / locked?

Of course it’s ok to have doubts, it’s certainly not perfect at the moment and lots of room for improvement. My comment was aimed at the “hope I’m proved wrong” brigade, who are writing off the manager after 5 league games (after which we have 10 points btw), despite a major overhaul of players, staff and style of play. If people have come to that ‘conclusion’ this quickly, then it’s pretty clear that you didn’t want him in the first place. Who knows if he’ll turn out to be the one, but 5 games isn’t anywhere near long enough to tell.

Quite easy to spot the posters who never wanted Martin in the first place.

That 100% should be the team.

Went for a cautious 7, I gave last years an 8 (I think) so once bitten twice shy. If we could have shifted Djenepo, Tall Paul and ABK permanently it would have been an 8. Still time for TP and MD to head to Turkey. Some serious competition for Bazunu and shifting AM would have been a 9.5. Being greedy, another wide player would have made it a 10. Still not convinced Sulemana will try all that much and/or end up in Saudi by end of next week, which means we’re still a tad short, relying on SAA too much IMO.

Odds on us not getting a wide man in, based on Sulemana staying - but then Saudi club buys him for £30m next week?

Perhaps we did, but then when he’s had his medical what we’ve been told and what the reality is have been quite different..?

Haha brilliant. I thought maybe he’d seen the Che deal had cancelled and assumed this would effect the Stewart deal, but doesn’t seem so.

Fair points, will he knuckle down though? Can’t see it personally. I like the team spirit RM seems to have built so far, don’t want half arsed players ruining that.

Sulemana is pointless keeping, clearly doesn’t want to be here and hasn’t bothered making himself available so far.

FFS Che, you actually had a chance to fulfil your ambition this season and you’ve bottled it.

Genk and/or Paintsil sound like a complete bunch of time wasters. So the deal was agreed between clubs before, but it fell down because of a loyalty bonus disagreement between player and Genk, but now it’s collapsed because our terms don’t suit Genk? Smells like rubbish to me.