Kingsbridge Saint Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Here we go with the roll out a quote from a player merry go round. Groundhog Day. I'm not interested in what you intend to do. Just do it, then talk about it after. Getting very very bored of stuff like that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Here we go with the roll out a quote from a player merry go round. Groundhog Day. I'm not interested in what you intend to do. Just do it, then talk about it after. Getting very very bored of stuff like that.... For goodness sake. I'm not interested in reading pathetic digs at our players either, but people like you like to make idiotic posts like this that I'm very bored of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 At the end of the day, what else can they say? It's part and parcel of football now, all the offical sites spout the same stuff every week - it's not just us. They have to publish something online, it's the standard post-match player/manager interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 For goodness sake. I'm not interested in reading pathetic digs at our players either, but people like you like to make idiotic posts like this that I'm very bored of. +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Here we go with the roll out a quote from a player merry go round. Groundhog Day. I'm not interested in what you intend to do. Just do it, then talk about it after. Getting very very bored of stuff like that.... I think it's probably best that you don't visit the OS then because it's highly unlikely that they'll say " things can only get worse because we are pretty sh#t and can't really be arsed " ! In any unit you have to believe and to get others to join with you. Nobody ever achieved anything through negativity ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I think it's probably best that you don't visit the OS then because it's highly unlikely that they'll say " things can only get worse because we are pretty sh#t and can't really be arsed " ! In any unit you have to believe and to get others to join with you. Nobody ever achieved anything through negativity ! I agree with the original poster words are easy to say winning games not so. Probably nothing to do with Hammond just PR as you say and they are not likely to say come on Saturday and watch Gillingham stuff us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I agree with the original poster words are easy to say winning games not so. Probably nothing to do with Hammond just PR as you say and they are not likely to say come on Saturday and watch Gillingham stuff us It's probably not even PR - players get interviewed at the end of the game, and Hammond was no doubt the player sent out, and the OS has a right to post what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 It's probably not even PR - players get interviewed at the end of the game, and Hammond was no doubt the player sent out, and the OS has a right to post what he said. Still PR though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Still PR though It's a player's opinion after the match. For goodness sake. I don't understand....if people (like you) dislike everything that ever happens at SFC, can't handle the ups and downs and don't rate the team/manager, then why don't you sod off and support another team? Instead of getting worked up all the time and complaining?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I agree with the original poster words are easy to say winning games not so. Probably nothing to do with Hammond just PR as you say and they are not likely to say come on Saturday and watch Gillingham stuff us Are you seriously saying that the Club tells players what to say after a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I agree with the original poster words are easy to say winning games not so. Probably nothing to do with Hammond just PR as you say and they are not likely to say come on Saturday and watch Gillingham stuff us Then their only option is to say nothing and only comment when we win ! What's the betting that they'd get slagged off for that too ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Would prefer if players were more honest - just apologise to fans (dont make excuses) and then go and do the talking on the pitch! simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 For goodness sake. I'm not interested in reading pathetic digs at our players either, but people like you like to make idiotic posts like this that I'm very bored of. It's the people who are bored of reading posts from people who are bored with 'idiotic' posts that I'm more worried about. Just think of them for a moment....they've got it doubly bad....I don't know how they sleep at night TBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 It's the people who are bored of reading posts from people who are bored with 'idiotic' posts that I'm more worried about. Just think of them for a moment....they've got it doubly bad....I don't know how they sleep at night TBH My head is spinning trying to understand that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I'm bored of the people that are bored with the people that are bored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Would prefer if players were more honest - just apologise to fans (dont make excuses) and then go and do the talking on the pitch! simples Simples it is not ! Take Hammond as an example last night - he worked like a Trojan, he had a good game, he was no doubt battered and bruised at the end of it ! Yes, we lost the match but what does he have to apologise for ? The only realistic response to that defeat is to roll up your sleeves, bond with your mates and get on with it and that is pretty much what he said ! Pray tell me what you would have said in his position ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 For goodness sake. I'm not interested in reading pathetic digs at our players either, but people like you like to make idiotic posts like this that I'm very bored of. How about you take a deep breath whenever you read a post by somebody that you dont agree with ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 How about you take a deep breath whenever you read a post by somebody that you dont agree with ? It's not that I disagree with him that has caused my reaction. It's just blatant digging at anything people can find to have a dig at, when it's really not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 How about you take a deep breath whenever you read a post by somebody that you dont agree with ? There'd only be three posts a week on here if everyone did that. And I for one want as much entertainment for my £5 as I can get. Carry on Debating.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Either way the OS can't win. If they don't put anything on the site, they'll be blamed for not keeping the fans updated. If they put articles like this Hammond one up, then people will say less talk, more action. The only alternative would be for Hammond to come out and say the result doesn't matter too much, and I don't think that would sit too well with the fans . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Simples it is not ! Take Hammond as an example last night - he worked like a Trojan, he had a good game, he was no doubt battered and bruised at the end of it ! Yes, we lost the match but what does he have to apologise for ? The only realistic response to that defeat is to roll up your sleeves, bond with your mates and get on with it and that is pretty much what he said ! Pray tell me what you would have said in his position ????? I don't think a single player has anything to apologise for after last night. Well, apart from maybe KD and I'm sure he doesn't need me to tell him...!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 It's not that I disagree with him that has caused my reaction. It's just blatant digging at anything people can find to have a dig at, when it's really not necessary. The "necessity" of it is totally subjective. He feels things have gone too far and this "toss-a-quote" thing we used to get every Monday after Burley matches is rearing its head again and it is insulting to our intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Simples it is not ! Take Hammond as an example last night - he worked like a Trojan, he had a good game, he was no doubt battered and bruised at the end of it ! Yes, we lost the match but what does he have to apologise for ? The only realistic response to that defeat is to roll up your sleeves, bond with your mates and get on with it and that is pretty much what he said ! Pray tell me what you would have said in his position ????? I would have said nothing and let one of the other 'under performing' team (or AP) apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I could not reay give a toss what a player or manager says to humour the fans. Results matter and getting them regularly. Right now we are not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 The "necessity" of it is totally subjective. He feels things have gone too far and this "toss-a-quote" thing we used to get every Monday after Burley matches is rearing its head again and it is insulting to our intelligence. Players are asked questions after a match in this thing called an 'interview'. Certain questions can only warrant certain answers. The Hammond article on the OS is a collation of the answers that he made to the questions he was asked. I don't see how you can have a dig at him or the OS. Unless you're just trying to find an excuse to moan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Players are asked questions after a match in this thing called an 'interview'. Certain questions can only warrant certain answers. The Hammond article on the OS is a collation of the answers that he made to the questions he was asked. I don't see how you can have a dig at him or the OS. Unless you're just trying to find an excuse to moan. I bet you stood up and applauded after we were relegated from L1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 (edited) I bet you stood up and applauded after we were relegated from L1 We haven't been relegated from league one. Anyway, there's a difference between being disappointed and gutted, to getting angry and miserable and wanting to blame someone or find excuses to moan, or nit pick. Edited 30 September, 2009 by St Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I don't think a single player has anything to apologise for after last night. Well, apart from maybe KD and I'm sure he doesn't need me to tell him...!!!! how can you blame KD for last nights result. we had plenty of time to rectify that mistake and were leading again only for other mistakes costing us dear. As for the original post, well !! If the players say nothing they get slated and if they do say something they get slated for that. I really dont know what players can say about results of football matches that doesnt become repetitive after a while.As for Hammond he was superb and a really good signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Why do the media even interview teams when they're losing. I mean...who cares? Anyone got the link to Man United's website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 My head is spinning trying to understand that It's quite simple really, just don't ask me to explain it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 how can you blame KD for last nights result. we had plenty of time to rectify that mistake and were leading again only for other mistakes costing us dear. As for the original post, well !! If the players say nothing they get slated and if they do say something they get slated for that. I really dont know what players can say about results of football matches that doesnt become repetitive after a while.As for Hammond he was superb and a really good signing. Nick - lighten up mate! I was merely saying that if anyone has to apologise for anything then it would be Kelvin for going Aboriginal on us for the first goal!! I'm not going to criticise the guy but I think he could have done a lot better - which I'm sure he knows!! As for the players' articles on the OS, they do my head in too so I have some sympathies with the OP. I would like to see the talking done on the green stuff! However, last night I thought we played well and were undone by a decent side on top of their game, in form and full of confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Players are asked questions after a match in this thing called an 'interview'. Certain questions can only warrant certain answers. The Hammond article on the OS is a collation of the answers that he made to the questions he was asked. I don't see how you can have a dig at him or the OS. Unless you're just trying to find an excuse to moan. No, I am saying kingsbridge is perfectly entitled to dismiss these comments as meaningless and irritating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suspect everyone Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 For goodness sake. I'm not interested in reading pathetic digs at our players either, but people like you like to make idiotic posts like this that I'm very bored of. I couldn't disagree more. I am so tired of reading empty rhetoric from players after every bloody defeat. We've been getting fed that tripe for the past 4 seasons, coinciding with our steady decline down the divisions to our current position; clearly these "battlecries" mean sod all. Unfortunately the new look OS only archives stories going back to the end of last season, but if you were able to go back through the previous seasons you'd find stories like: Le Saux: "We'll do it for the fans" John: "We'll bounce back" Quashie: "Anger at defeat will help us recover" Euell: "The lads will come back stronger after defeat" I mean what??!!!!! Pathetic, absolutely pathetic. Sadly this season's OS offerings appear hauntingly similar to the last god knows how many seasons of sh*te. Why don't you all stop patronising us and actually report something factual rather than the usual guff. Now I'm not picking on Hammond in particular, clearly he's had a good start to his career and was only commenting on the game in the only way he felt he could. But forgive for being a little tired of this empty sentiment; I've just about had enough. Both the OS and the squad should put an end to this sort of story, I'd rather the players said absolutely nothing and concentrated their efforts on actually winning a few games, rather than thinking up some empty platitude that hasn't already been used by a Saints player in the last 4 seasons. Don't let my anger be confused with my general outlook on the team; Pardew should be given more time, the squad is good enough to move up the league and I’m sure we will eventually turn a corner under this administration. This does not mean I’m going to accept anymore patronising and worthless “battlecries”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 No, I am saying kingsbridge is perfectly entitled to dismiss these comments as meaningless and irritating. As I'm perfectly entitled to dismess your comments as meaningless, irritating, negative, etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Then their only option is to say nothing and only comment when we win ! What's the betting that they'd get slagged off for that too ?? I think the point is that people are getting fed up with the constant PR coming out of the club that things are going to be better. I hope they are too but until they do I would suggest these banal comments are not totally well received as discussed by suspect above I dont blame the players in anyway for saying it but I do not think it should be published. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I think the point is that people are getting fed up with the constant PR coming out of the club that things are going to be better. I hope they are too but until they do I would suggest these banal comments are not totally well received. well maybe you wrist slitters would relate to the players better if they came out and blamed Pardew, said we're crap, we're going down, not good enough, etc etc. I'll write to the OS and tell them they need to be more negative because it's more "realistic". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 As I'm perfectly entitled to dismess your comments as meaningless, irritating, negative, etc etc etc I think it would be a mistake to dismiss all of Alpines posts because over the years many of his posts have been spot on but of course many have been over the top too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I think it would be a mistake to dismiss all of Alpines posts because over the years many of his posts have been spot on but of course many have been over the top tooyep the blunderbuss appraoch always works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 (edited) I think the point is that people are getting fed up with the constant PR coming out of the club that things are going to be better. I hope they are too but until they do I would suggest these banal comments are not totally well received as discussed by suspect above I dont blame the players in anyway for saying it but I do not think it should be published. Why is it PR - Hammond is not saying we were fantastic - he identifies (correctly) that we shaded things until their 2nd goal but we didn't take our chances and subsequently lost the plot. You can only look forward to the next game - what do you expect? some great cathartic moment for some of the fans wrist-slitting and melodrama "f*ck it we're doomed and I personally should have never left a side that's in the playoff places". Or how about an opening session at SMS with the fans where the team undergoes primal scream therapy? Edited 30 September, 2009 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I think the point is that people are getting fed up with the constant PR coming out of the club that things are going to be better. I hope they are too but until they do I would suggest these banal comments are not totally well received as discussed by suspect above I dont blame the players in anyway for saying it but I do not think it should be published.the OS is there to generate business.If they come out and say we are doomed then the club shop is not going to take money and the ticket sales will go down.Accept the OS for what it is ,a propaganda machine. The players are asked questions and that is then edited to suit. strachan managed to sidestep any difficult questions with a quip or his accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suspect everyone Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 well maybe you wrist slitters would relate to the players better if they came out and blamed Pardew, said we're crap, we're going down, not good enough, etc etc. I'll write to the OS and tell them they need to be more negative because it's more "realistic". You're being delibaretly selective. Shall I rewrite my final paragraph for you? Don't let my anger be confused with my general outlook on the team; Pardew should be given more time, the squad is good enough to move up the league and I’m sure we will eventually turn a corner under this administration. This does not mean I’m going to accept anymore patronising and worthless “battlecries”. What part of that is confusing you? In my eyes being tired of these sorts of stories does not mean we want Pardew to be sacked, players to be publicly hung or any other dramatic conclusions you've assumed. Some people are on this board, like me, are tired of these stories, that does not automatically place them in the 'Pardew out' camp. Alternatively you can tell me which particular part of Hammond's "We'll put it right" piece really struck a chord with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 You're being delibaretly selective. Shall I rewrite my final paragraph for you? Don't let my anger be confused with my general outlook on the team; Pardew should be given more time, the squad is good enough to move up the league and I’m sure we will eventually turn a corner under this administration. This does not mean I’m going to accept anymore patronising and worthless “battlecries”. What part of that is confusing you? In my eyes being tired of these sorts of stories does not mean we want Pardew to be sacked, players to be publicly hung or any other dramatic conclusions you've assumed. Some people are on this board, like me, are tired of these stories, that does not automatically place them in the 'Pardew out' camp. Alternatively you can tell me which particular part of Hammond's "We'll put it right" piece really struck a chord with you? I wasn't referring to what you wrote - I didn't even read your post....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Why is it PR - Hammond is not saying we were fantastic - he identifies (correctly) that we shaded things until their 2nd goal but we didn't take our chances and subsequently lost the plot. You can only look forward to the next game - what do you expect? some great cathartic moment to justify some of the fans wrist-slitting and melodrama "f*ck it we're doomed and I personally should have never left a side that's in the playoff places". I fully understand why the OS are putting out this drivel they have been doing it for years. Of course as I said earlier they are hardly likely to say come on Saturday and see Gillingham stuff us Until we start winning I suggest that we have had enough of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 No, I am saying kingsbridge is perfectly entitled to dismiss these comments as meaningless and irritating. Of course but he's a bit naive if he expected anything different. I don't think I've ever heard a comment from any football player or anyone involved with football that isn't meaningless and irritating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 As I'm perfectly entitled to dismess your comments as meaningless, irritating, negative, etc etc etc From the no-mark golfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 From the no-mark golfer a no-mark golfer?! what on earth is a no-mark golfer?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suspect everyone Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I wasn't referring to what you wrote - I didn't even read your post....! You classified everyone posting an alternative point of view to you as wrist slitters, that was what i was responding to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 You classified everyone posting an alternative point of view to you as wrist slitters, that was what i was responding to. Alternative? Is that your way of saying negative, depressing, worst-case-scenario thinking?! Seriously, lighten up, it's a game of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Alternative? Is that your way of saying negative, depressing, worst-case-scenario thinking?! Seriously, lighten up, it's a game of football. And this is just a message board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I fully understand why the OS are putting out this drivel they have been doing it for years. Until we start winning I suggest that we have had enough of it You don't think that the players also share these views? To be honest, I don't read players reactions fullstop. I actually think they're worse after a win because they can don't need to a step out of comfortzone boll*cks whereas when we lose, they are forced into some form of justification, however tepid. My hypothesis is that most professional sportsmen arent the most self-reflective bunch in the world - they have been successful precisely they have been good at drills and repetition over the years that has allowed them do things automatically, almost effortlessly. Possibly, that's one reason why so few have cut it as managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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