NickG Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 (edited) WON Northampton 3-2 Waigo, Lallana, Hammond WON Hartlepool 3-1 Lallana (2) Lambert Drew Norwich 2-2 Lallana Connolly LOST Brighton 3-1 Lambert WON Charlton 2-1 Thomas, Lambert WON Bristol Rover 3-2 Connolly (2) Antonio Drew Orient 2-2 Lambert (2) WON MK 3-1 Lambert, Connolly, Hammond WON Oldham 3-1 Lambert, Connolly, Hammond WON Southend 3-1 Lallana (2) Trottman WON Torquay (pens) 2-2 Wiago (2) WON Gillingham 4-1 Lambert, Lallana (2), Waigo Edited 28 November, 2009 by NickG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 we drew against torquay..? unless that means old whiskey george lost both of our playoff games..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 28 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 November, 2009 for two posters; Fitz - copy and paste makes it easy to update Alps - it will be there even if we get thrashed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 we drew against torquay..? unless that means old whiskey george lost both of our playoff games..? No, we didn't. And yes, he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 No, we didn't. And yes, he did. im sure the saints official site has the torquay game down as a draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 im sure the saints official site has the torquay game down as a draw Don't care what they have it down as, we won. If a cup final is 0-0 and then one team wins on penalties, is the result a draw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 Don't care what they have it down as, we won. If a cup final is 0-0 and then one team wins on penalties, is the result a draw? the game finished a draw...yes hence the need to settle it another way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 28 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 November, 2009 33 goals in 12 games - nearly 3 a game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 33 goals in 12 games - nearly 3 a game! Thats very good... Still conceding too many though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 33 goals in 12 games - nearly 3 a game! but once that dries up..the stats show that we will lose lots of games! At the moment though...esp in the FA Cup, im not too bothered. we must concede an average of 1.5 goals a game atm though, it is slightly worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan17 Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 I knew this thread would be here before I even turned the laptop on!! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 I knew this thread would be here before I even turned the laptop on!! :-)You must be using Vista. Takes two weeks to boot on my PC at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 but once that dries up..the stats show that we will lose lots of games! At the moment though...esp in the FA Cup, im not too bothered. we must concede an average of 1.5 goals a game atm though, it is slightly worrying. Not really. All the time goals conceded is fewer than goals scored, we win. Funny how it works like that... If we were a Strachan type side we would win 1-0. But we're not and I'm delighted we're not. I would rather win 3-1 and 3-2 than 1-0 any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 WON Northampton 3-2 Waigo, Lallana, Hammond WON Hartlepool 3-1 Lallana (2) Lambert Drew Norwich 2-2 Lallana Connolly LOST Brighton 3-1 Lambert WON Charlton 2-1 Thomas, Lambert WON Bristol Rover 3-2 Connolly (2) Antonio Drew Orient 2-2 Lambert (2) WON MK 3-1 Lambert, Connolly, Hammond WON Oldham 3-1 Lambert, Connolly, Hammond WON Southend 3-1 Lallana (2) Trottman WON Torquay (pens) 2-2 Wiago (2) WON Gillingham 4-1 Lambert, Lallana (2), Waigo Swit Swoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 Its the league games that really counts and the stats provided by Nick includes 4 cup games! The league games just outside the 'good stats' dont look so sexy Drew Millwall LOST Huddersfield LOST Swindon Drew Brentford Drew Stockport Drew Colchester Drew Charlton Drew Carlisle LOST Bristol Rovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 Its the league games that really counts and the stats provided by Nick includes 4 cup games! The league games just outside the 'good stats' dont look so sexy Drew Millwall LOST Huddersfield LOST Swindon Drew Brentford Drew Stockport Drew Colchester Drew Charlton Drew Carlisle LOST Bristol Rovers Hmm slow start to begin but what would you expect with AP trying to find the best team from new and old players? Seemed to have missed out the Yeovil win there too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 (edited) Hmm slow start to begin but what would you expect with AP trying to find the best team from new and old players? Seemed to have missed out the Yeovil win there too! I expected better from the opening games - ultimately it was these games that were the real test for AP. The team we have now should beat most teams in L1 without much guidance - as you say the opening games were not so easy and required a little bit from AP. anyways - lets not dwell on that. Last 12 games looks better so lets just focus on that Edited 28 November, 2009 by Glasgow_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 Not too fussed about the slow burn. Hopefully get the defence sorted come Jan and really start beating teams for a push up the table. Wycombe and Walsall next. 6 points please I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 Not too fussed about the slow burn. Hopefully get the defence sorted come Jan and really start beating teams for a push up the table. Wycombe and Walsall next. 6 points please I say. Yes please - hope Nicks stat look so sexy in a months time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 WON Northampton 3-2 Waigo, Lallana, Hammond WON Hartlepool 3-1 Lallana (2) Lambert Drew Norwich 2-2 Lallana Connolly LOST Brighton 3-1 Lambert WON Charlton 2-1 Thomas, Lambert WON Bristol Rover 3-2 Connolly (2) Antonio Drew Orient 2-2 Lambert (2) WON MK 3-1 Lambert, Connolly, Hammond WON Oldham 3-1 Lambert, Connolly, Hammond WON Southend 3-1 Lallana (2) Trottman WON Torquay (pens) 2-2 Wiago (2) WON Gillingham 4-1 Lambert, Lallana (2), Waigo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 28 November, 2009 Share Posted 28 November, 2009 On my way back Nickg - just having a pint in W Ilsley. Glad we won but the 2nd half was the worst I have seen this season. 3 nil up w should have cruised it but we could not keep possesion and our midfield were out fought. Another 5 mins and we would have been looking at a Tranmere situation. The cup is all about winning and we did but don't get carried away as if you would! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 November, 2009 trust me -not getting carried away - I don't think we are going to win the FA Cup! Good run tho isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 I expected better from the opening games - ultimately it was these games that were the real test for AP. The team we have now should beat most teams in L1 without much guidance - as you say the opening games were not so easy and required a little bit from AP. anyways - lets not dwell on that. Last 12 games looks better so lets just focus on that It was games with no pre-season and with players he didn't want that were the real test for AP. What planet are you on pal? What other manager is best judged this way? Strachan? Who Pardew is now comprehensively outperfoming?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 I expected better from the opening games - ultimately it was these games that were the real test for AP. The team we have now should beat most teams in L1 without much guidance - as you say the opening games were not so easy and required a little bit from AP. anyways - lets not dwell on that. Last 12 games looks better so lets just focus on that Not sure I agree with you there. Ultimately it will be taking over a crap squad, reinforcing it in the right areas and getting them playing with confidence that will be AP's real test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 On my way back Nickg - just having a pint in W Ilsley. Glad we won but the 2nd half was the worst I have seen this season. 3 nil up w should have cruised it but we could not keep possesion and our midfield were out fought. Another 5 mins and we would have been looking at a Tranmere situation. The cup is all about winning and we did but don't get carried away as if you would! Not really bothered. We won. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 Not really bothered. We won. Again. What an intelligent response. If you are not really bothered why post to tell us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 We played carp and still won. That's the sign of a good team IMO. How many times have they said that about Man Utd and Chelsea over the last few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 November, 2009 this run shows Pardew is getting the winning mentality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 What an intelligent response. If you are not really bothered why post to tell us? Because I like posting about how we won again to wind you up because you think it's some sort of agenda and that we shouldn't be happy about our winning run because there are problems in the team. When I go to the football if we play ****e and win and I still go home happy because at the end of the day it's about the result. Do you go home and moan about the performance? If so I feel sorry for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 We played carp and still won. That's the sign of a good team IMO. How many times have they said that about Man Utd and Chelsea over the last few seasons. Yep. Long may it continue! (hopefully will continue into the playoffs ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 Because I like posting about how we won again to wind you up because you think it's some sort of agenda and that we shouldn't be happy about our winning run because there are problems in the team. When I go to the football if we play ****e and win and I still go home happy because at the end of the day it's about the result. Do you go home and moan about the performance? If so I feel sorry for you. Right Hypo after this reply I am going to ignore you because you are acting like a petty little twerp. If you post solely to wind me up that is up to you but it obviously is not worth legitimising your views with a logical reply. I have never said you shouldn't be happy after a win. I was happy but I would have been happier had the win been cleaner and I was mererly pointing out that in my opinion (I assume you are allowing me to have an opinion) although 3-2 looks a good result on paper to those who weren't there, the truth was we did not play very well, especially in the 2nd half. I was not moaning merely pointing that out. The trouble with all your happy clappies with you head in the sand is that you perceive criticism constructive or otherwise as an attack on your team and it should not be allowed. Plenty of managers are very critical of their team in victory because they are all striving for improvement and I expect AP is no different. Please do not feel sorry for me I have no sand clogging up my eyes or ears and when things go wrong at least I will be able to understand why. This forum is for all views and just because I don't get the bunting out after every win it doesn't mean I should be the subject of your rather tiresome winding up and insults. Now run along and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 November, 2009 people getting needlessly personal. used to argue about Crouch v Lowe, now its whether we can enjoy winning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 That's great form going into December - I think AP has done a great job of improving the defence and has built an excellent attack. Most importantly, and as others have said, his biggest contribution so far has been to develop a "winning mentality". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 I recognise our limitations but unlike you I don't get hung up on them. Do what you like Duncan, but I'm allowed to counter what you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 And clearly my reason for posting is not just to annoy you. It's an added bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 people getting needlessly personal. used to argue about Crouch v Lowe, now its whether we can enjoy winning! Point me in the direction I said you musn't enjoy winning Nick? I am sincerely glad you enjoy it, I do myself but I temper my joy with caution, especially when the performance has not been that great. Neither of our "approaches" are right or wrong but we must both be allowed to counter each other's opinions without insult or wind ups or it is bound to get personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 It was games with no pre-season and with players he didn't want that were the real test for AP. What planet are you on pal? What other manager is best judged this way? Strachan? Who Pardew is now comprehensively outperfoming?? Not sure I agree with you there. Ultimately it will be taking over a crap squad, reinforcing it in the right areas and getting them playing with confidence that will be AP's real test. The fact that he took over with a 'crap' squad is the reason why the opening games were a test! Managers rarely get to take over a team full of superstars and full of confidence. Its the managers job to motivate and use tactical knowledge to get the most out of the players availible. The players here were more than good enough to have done better than they did - the manager therefore failed in the opening games. Played 10 Won 1 Drew 6 Lost 3 Remember we played teams such as Brentford and Stockport NOT Man United & Chelsea. AP should have done better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 (edited) Point me in the direction I said you musn't enjoy winning Nick? I am sincerely glad you enjoy it, I do myself but I temper my joy with caution, especially when the performance has not been that great. Neither of our "approaches" are right or wrong but we must both be allowed to counter each other's opinions without insult or wind ups or it is bound to get personal. Why do you temper your enjoyment of a winning run? If we suddenly lose a load in a row then we won't be enjoying it anymore. There is no need for caution when enjoying a record which has already happened. For the record, I didn't call you a twerp. Do you presume that because we are enjoying our run, we assume it is going to continue? Or we don't see limitations in the performances? Because that isn't the case. I'm still not understanding what your issue is. Edited 29 November, 2009 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKimish Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 We played carp and still won. Like Bialcodski, Joseph Gills and Neal Troutman? *I'll get my coat ...* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 The fact that he took over with a 'crap' squad is the reason why the opening games were a test! Managers rarely get to take over a team full of superstars and full of confidence. Its the managers job to motivate and use tactical knowledge to get the most out of the players availible. The players here were more than good enough to have done better than they did - the manager therefore failed in the opening games. Played 10 Won 1 Drew 6 Lost 3 Remember we played teams such as Brentford and Stockport NOT Man United & Chelsea. AP should have done better. What makes you think we have the "divine right" to beat Brentford and Stockport. We are in the same league as them, when the season started most of the fans on this site would have been happy with survival this season and pushing on next season. Our side was really carp at the start of the season but we only lost 3 of our first 10 games. as the season progressed we have improved and strengthened, if we progress up the league during December a very important month to pick up points, this will determine I think on how much activity will happen in January. I don't care if we let in five goals a game as long as we score six, because in the end its getting 3 points that are important. We are going to lose some games against teams worse than us, hell Manure even lost this season to Burnley. No team has a "divine right" to win. If we play carp and win I am a lot happier than if we play well and lose. just want to carry on watching what generally is enjoyable exciting games, seeing goals scored from all areas of the pitch, This is the best seasons viewing since 2003, and long may it continue, I for one do not want the team to be known as a bunch of egotistical bigheads who think they have a "divine right" to win, because they will play that bit harder just to trip us up, as happened earlier in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 What makes you think we have the "divine right" to beat Brentford and Stockport. We are in the same league as them, when the season started most of the fans on this site would have been happy with survival this season and pushing on next season. Our side was really carp at the start of the season but we only lost 3 of our first 10 games. as the season progressed we have improved and strengthened, if we progress up the league during December a very important month to pick up points, this will determine I think on how much activity will happen in January. I don't care if we let in five goals a game as long as we score six, because in the end its getting 3 points that are important. We are going to lose some games against teams worse than us, hell Manure even lost this season to Burnley. No team has a "divine right" to win. If we play carp and win I am a lot happier than if we play well and lose. just want to carry on watching what generally is enjoyable exciting games, seeing goals scored from all areas of the pitch, This is the best seasons viewing since 2003, and long may it continue, I for one do not want the team to be known as a bunch of egotistical bigheads who think they have a "divine right" to win, because they will play that bit harder just to trip us up, as happened earlier in the season. No "divine right" but we woulda, coulda, shoulda picked up more points in the 1st 10 games. Start of the season we had KD, Harding, Thomas, Saga, Rasiak, Perry, Gillet, Murty, Schneiderlin, Lallana ect and Lambert only missed the 1st 2 games. We had enough quality for L1 is my point. Now we have spend big (almost as much as all other 23 L1 sides combined) so our improved form is inevitable. Buy good players and you win more than you lose. Simples The test is/was to pick up points/wins when we only have/had a small advantage - AP has so far failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 boothrooyd (who has been laughed at many times on here) has won 7 and drawn 7 from his first 14 games at colchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 boothrooyd (who has been laughed at many times on here) has won 7 and drawn 7 from his first 14 games at colchester boothrooyd is an example of a manager that can get extra out of average players. Good manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 boothrooyd is an example of a manager that can get extra out of average players. Good manager he did not have a pre season either and lost the team captain as well as other too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 he did not have a pre season either and lost the team captain as well as other too There is a difference between Pardews "impact" and Boothroyds "impact". Pardew didn't have a league game for about 2 weeks and by then the hype around him signing had died down. Boothroyd had a game within days of joining Colchester, so the "new manager syndrome" was in effect for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 There is a difference between Pardews "impact" and Boothroyds "impact". Pardew didn't have a league game for about 2 weeks and by then the hype around him signing had died down. Boothroyd had a game within days of joining Colchester, so the "new manager syndrome" was in effect for him. even so...his first 14 games have brought 7 wins and 7 draws without spending money at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 he did not have a pre season either and lost the team captain as well as other too No pre-season and no money spent - just seems to get on with the job and gets results. Also noteworthy that Colchester lost 17 players during the summer or just after the season started. This included the 4 best players from last season (Colchester's fan opinion not mine) Hammond (to us), Gerkin (to Bristol City), Mark Yeates (to M'Boro) and Jackson (to Notts County) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 No pre-season and no money spent - just seems to get on with the job and gets results. Also noteworthy that Colchester lost 17 players during the summer or just after the season started. This included the 4 best players from last season (Colchester's fan opinion not mine) Hammond (to us), Gerkin (to Bristol City), Mark Yeates (to M'Boro) and Jackson (to Notts County) bloody hell.... see, pards and the team COULD have done better at the start of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 even so...his first 14 games have brought 7 wins and 7 draws without spending money at all Paul Lambert did not leave them with a sh*t squad though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 There is a difference between Pardews "impact" and Boothroyds "impact". Pardew didn't have a league game for about 2 weeks and by then the hype around him signing had died down. Boothroyd had a game within days of joining Colchester, so the "new manager syndrome" was in effect for him. oh dear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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