Danny Guthrie

[Clunge]

Not strictly saints related but kind of is.

 

Just glad he dont play for us anymore after his actions at the weekend, absolute disgrace. fagan now has a broken leg and will miss a good chunk of the season, no excuse for it. He never seemed to have a temperament like that in a saints shirt.

[Mr Saints]

Can't excuse the tackle but Fagan's behaviour was also a disgrace in the two play off games against Derby.

[Clunge]

Can't excuse the tackle but Fagan's behaviour was also a disgrace in the two play off games against Derby.

 

I dont like Fagan, dont get me wrong, but no professional should be doin what guthrie did

[Dicko]

Guthrie committed the cardinal sin of trying to seriously hurt an opponent.

 

It was a fookin disgrace and they should ban him for 12 matches

[Saint_clark]

He's scouse and young, what do you expect? He will calm down.

[Rory]

He's scouse and young, what do you expect? He will calm down.

 

[Whitey Grandad]

It was the sort of action which often leads to a ciminal or civil action, and quite rightly too. I would not be surprised if the FA took some further action. Sometimes a red card is not enough.

[Thedelldays]

I liked Guthrie here but he was a complete **** at the weekend. Opposite to Lancashire's red with a young player making an over enthusiastic mistimed tackle for the ball. Guthrie was just annoyed and trying to hurt someone. The ball might as well have been at the other end of the pitch. He'll form a lovely partnership with Barton.

oh come on...a rush of blood to the head and you put him in the same bracket as barton....

 

jeeeeeez

[aintforever]

Guthrie was a great player for us, if it wasn't for him we would have got nowhere near the playoffs that season. He was just frustrated, no surprise for a young kid in that atmosphere.

[Saint Martini]

Fagan broke his leg? I'd sue Guthrie to be honest. That was nothing short of assault, even if it was during a football match.

[Matt SFC]

Fagans one of the dirtiest players in the game, and has gone out of his way to injure other players in the past. A taste of his own medicine i think.

[Saint Stimp]

Anyone got a video of the incident?

[NickG]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=o4hxCPlrfmg

[Glasgow_Saint]

I thought it was a good tackle

[paulwantsapint]

Fagin got up

 

bad foul but have seen a lot worse

[SuperMikey]

I don't think it was entirely malicious, like thedelldays said, i'd put it down to a rush of blood to the head. He wanted to win the ball back and just got a bit carried away.

 

But how the fook did Fagan get a broken leg from that? He got up and was arguing with the ref ffs! Did he slip on his way to the team coach or something..?

[DrSuess1979]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11714_4150100,00.html

 

sue his arse, ex saint or not he had 2 go`s at it

[Denzil]

I thought it was a good tackle

 

I saw nothing wrong with it. Fagan was taking the ******, what did he expect?

[St Chalet]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11714_4150776,00.html

 

I agree, Guthrie isn't a dirty player.

[Saint Bones]

The actually challenge doesnt look terible ( it's not good) but for me its the attempts prior to it - Clearly tackling him Safri Style

[Oz]

absolute nonsense, hcdajfu as could joey barton

[TijuanaTim]

....what ex-Saint loanee did Sunday?...Harsh I know, but in this case I truly believe the little thug should be banned until Fagen's first team return and then should start whatever ban he was gonna get for that double cowardly attack...Come on someone give me one good reason why in this case that would not be just. He knew exactly what he was doing, it was unprovoked and petulent...what's more he has no remorse.

[ottery st mary]

Rush of blood, frustration or whatever he has committed a criminal offence for which he should face the consequences. If Fagan does not take it further then Guthrie should not play football again until his victim does.

I am a Guthrie supporter and wished we could have kept him here. No excuse for his behaviour on the day.

 

I wonder if he had seen some video of Mark Dennis or Dennis Hollywood.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

I'm quite sure Guthrie intended to kick/foul Fagan and he'll have to take his deserved red card and any further punishment imposed by the FA like a man . However to state that he deliberately intended to break another players leg or that he's no sense of remorse over this regrettable incident is going to far - I see no evidence in his record or having seen him play for SFC that he's that type of lad .

[Thedelldays]

Where did I say that? I said he'd form a lovely partnership with Barton. I didn't suggest he'd form a lovely crime and assault partnership off the pitch with Barton.

so what gives you the impression he would form a lovely partnership on the pitch...?

[ulstersaint]

I thought it was a good tackle

 

It was not a tackle - it was assault with the intention of deliberately and wilfully causing physical pain, harm and damage to a fellow professional.

[ulstersaint]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11714_4150776,00.html

 

I agree, Guthrie isn't a dirty player.

 

The evidence of his two attacks on Fagan suggests otherwise.

[TijuanaTim]

I'm quite sure Guthrie intended to kick/foul Fagan and he'll have to take his deserved red card and any further punishment imposed by the FA like a man . However to state that he deliberately intended to break another players leg or that he's no sense of remorse over this regrettable incident is going to far - I see no evidence in his record or having seen him play for SFC that he's that type of lad .

 

We seem to be overlooking the fact that he had one excessively violent go, when that failed he gathered himself again and thought to re-assault a defenceless player from behind.

 

And yes he did intend to break his leg....

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

We seem to be overlooking the fact that he had one excessively violent go, when that failed he gathered himself again and thought to re-assault a defenceless player from behind.

 

And yes he did intend to break his leg....

 

I've no comprehension of how you can so catagoricly state with 100% black or white certainty he intended to break Fagan's leg - only Danny Guthrie or a mind reader can answer that question . I'm prepared to give a young player the benefit of the (considerable) doubt in this instance - until I'm proved wrong that is .

[Whitey Grandad]

I've no comprehension of how you can so catagoricly state with 100% black or white certainty he intended to break Fagan's leg - only Danny Guthrie or a mind reader can answer that question . I'm prepared to give a young player the benefit of the (considerable) doubt in this instance - until I'm proved wrong that is .

There is absolutely no way that his last and most violent 'tackle' could be interpreted as an attempt to get the ball. The red mist had clearly descended and any reasonable person looking at that 'assault' would expect the outcome to be serious physical damage to his opponent. If he had done it in the street he would have already been charged. There is no place for that sort of behaviour in any level of football.

[TijuanaTim]

I've no comprehension of how you can so catagoricly state with 100% black or white certainty he intended to break Fagan's leg - only Danny Guthrie or a mind reader can answer that question . I'm prepared to give a young player the benefit of the (considerable) doubt in this instance - until I'm proved wrong that is .

 

Charlie all respect to you mate, very admirable and even more optimistic than even I normally am. You are someone that I can definitely read with interest.

 

In my opinion, Guthrie, unprovoked, decided he would run up to a defenceless opponent a pre-meditatedly and visciously (let's say - just) 'foul' that player...heck that happens a lot in the game, for one reason or another. Despite this cringingly awful 'foul' the game little opponent didn't go down like so many of today's '*****es' but continued attempting to play (I bet he wished he had gone down after the initial meaningless 'foul'). So Guthrie, not satisfied with getting away with the first violent 'foul', collected himself and decided that his decision would be to assault his adversary and this time it was more than a 'foul'.

 

If you decide to punch someone in the face you may not have written it down and taken a sworn statement of intent to break that person's nose or jaw...but most probably that is what you are going to or intending to do. The first was temper, the second was worse and can only be understood as a pre-thought action.

 

All bets for that little 9 karat ¢unt were off after he decided to do it TWICE FFS