JustMike Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 didnt he say on the radio that the takeover is moving forward? Thought someone on here mentioned it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 It's been mentioned a few times on this forum and I heard it mentioned on Radio Hampshire after one of the home games, we need something positive to happen very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 didnt he say on the radio that the takeover is moving forward? Thought someone on here mentioned it too Merrington ......Fulthorpe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 will happen on a Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 NOt quite sure why we are even 'excited' about being taken over by anyone with no real money apart from those wo would be happy just to get rid of lowe - would we see any change in fortunes on the pitch? there is ssimply no cash to change the situation and I cant see any of the local tyre kickers with any real cash to make a difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 NOt quite sure why we are even 'excited' about being taken over by anyone with no real money apart from those wo would be happy just to get rid of lowe - would we see any change in fortunes on the pitch? there is ssimply no cash to change the situation and I cant see any of the local tyre kickers with any real cash to make a difference... So all of us with any business contacts need to revisit them and see if there are really any egotistical millionaires out there who want to have a train set to play with. Might be easier without the divisions of last year, but harder with the financial situation. As an old wise Sales manager of mine said many years ago You don't ask you don't get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capel Saint Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 Surely though, would a prudent investor not wait for the club to go into administration and buy it much cheaper as a going concern rather than try to buy all the shares in the next few months for a larger sum? Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 Surely though, would a prudent investor not wait for the club to go into administration and buy it much cheaper as a going concern rather than try to buy all the shares in the next few months for a larger sum? Just a thought. And a good one. However, you only have to look at Bournemouth to see that the entire Admin process is extremely messy, the actual structure of the organisation, the nature of the creditors and any charges or maybe debentures that they have, plus the fact that you then have to deal with sealed bid processes rather than open negotiations. When you have your backs to a wall facing a firing squad, any deal will do, but it is not often that it is the right deal. Also the admin process itself is fraught = the 10 point (minimum) penalty, the fact that it can take two or three months at least leads to even more instability. So in reality it comes down to WHY an investor would want to buy the club. Admin is a "cheap deal" so the type of people buying the business are more likely to be "out to make a buck" or local people wanting to play with the train set. A managed sale allows a different level of business interest - a long term investment and development stratgey, corporate branding etc. Abu Dhabi would not for example have bought Man City if they were in liquidation, but as Thaksin had to sell they held a stronger hand. Ashley hasn't worked it out yet that he is screwed at Newcastle - he asked for 400 mil, when everyone knows he should be taught a lesson and sell for 150.... It's all about THE DEAL, not the "EGO" in this financial climate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 He did. So why he's allowed to commentate on our games i have no idea. So he can paint a picture of gloom...conitinually complain because we're playing a formation that he really can't get his head round...and generally run the existing regime down every week in a bid to boost his own popularity and attempts to be involved with the club... Whilst i don't doubt he cares for the club i have no idea how he thinks he's better positioned to run a football club haemoraging money than Rupert Lowe... Thanks but no thanks Dave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 Surely though, would a prudent investor not wait for the club to go into administration and buy it much cheaper as a going concern rather than try to buy all the shares in the next few months for a larger sum? Just a thought. Ideally you do what SISU did with Coventry. Wait until the club are about five minutes from going into administration. That way you get the club cheaply, with none of those nasty points deductions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 Whilst i don't doubt he cares for the club i have no idea how he thinks he's better positioned to run a football club haemoraging money than Rupert Lowe... Is the idea that Merrington would be chief exec then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 He did. So why he's allowed to commentate on our games i have no idea. So he can paint a picture of gloom...conitinually complain because we're playing a formation that he really can't get his head round...and generally run the existing regime down every week in a bid to boost his own popularity and attempts to be involved with the club... Whilst i don't doubt he cares for the club i have no idea how he thinks he's better positioned to run a football club haemoraging money than Rupert Lowe... Thanks but no thanks Dave... it depends who he brings with him. For me Im happy with RL as I can see he is trying to right the ship, but if we could get a new face who doesnt have the baggage and the whole of the boardromm is gone and a completely new start then that would be fine with me. It may be the only thing to bring the fans on board and if we had the added bonus of money to spend on the squad then a new feelgood facvtor will spread. If we only lose RL and MW then we would still have those hangers on in the background. An empty canvass is the only way to cure the illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capel Saint Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 And a good one. However, you only have to look at Bournemouth to see that the entire Admin process is extremely messy, the actual structure of the organisation, the nature of the creditors and any charges or maybe debentures that they have, plus the fact that you then have to deal with sealed bid processes rather than open negotiations. When you have your backs to a wall facing a firing squad, any deal will do, but it is not often that it is the right deal. Also the admin process itself is fraught = the 10 point (minimum) penalty, the fact that it can take two or three months at least leads to even more instability. So in reality it comes down to WHY an investor would want to buy the club. Admin is a "cheap deal" so the type of people buying the business are more likely to be "out to make a buck" or local people wanting to play with the train set. A managed sale allows a different level of business interest - a long term investment and development stratgey, corporate branding etc. Abu Dhabi would not for example have bought Man City if they were in liquidation, but as Thaksin had to sell they held a stronger hand. Ashley hasn't worked it out yet that he is screwed at Newcastle - he asked for 400 mil, when everyone knows he should be taught a lesson and sell for 150.... It's all about THE DEAL, not the "EGO" in this financial climate Good points DP. Let's hope if someone does come in to save the club, they are doing it for the right reasons and will be present for the long term to turn things around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 Is the idea that Merrington would be chief exec then? How the hell would i know? But as a spokesperson for the the group I worry about him being given an open forum to put his views across about our club each week when I want some unbiased commentary... it depends who he brings with him. For me Im happy with RL as I can see he is trying to right the ship, but if we could get a new face who doesnt have the baggage and the whole of the boardromm is gone and a completely new start then that would be fine with me. It may be the only thing to bring the fans on board and if we had the added bonus of money to spend on the squad then a new feelgood facvtor will spread. If we only lose RL and MW then we would still have those hangers on in the background. An empty canvass is the only way to cure the illness. I don't seem to remember the last feel good factor actually bringing in much bigger crowds when it emerged that the football wasn't getting any better just because you have someone different in the directors box mind. I'm a little weary of all this to say the very least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 How the hell would i know? But as a spokesperson for the the group I worry about him being given an open forum to put his views across about our club each week when I want some unbiased commentary... I don't seem to remember the last feel good factor actually bringing in much bigger crowds when it emerged that the football wasn't getting any better just because you have someone different in the directors box mind. I'm a little weary of all this to say the very least...SCud, the thing that made me want the club to appoint NP had nothing to do with his managing prowess as i was not too carried away by that but by the way the fans were united brehind him.Now I know he'd be having a crusade start to mount againsyt him if the results were poor but it would mean we as a club could unite and then move on. I dont take a large slice of this board as an example of the fan base but if we could get over the constant negatives the re would at least be some pece for the club to move on. Too many people are waiting in the sidelines to prove a point if things go wrong. They in turn pick away at the moral of the regular fans and it is a drip drip effect. Clean the whole lot out and then there are no axes to grind and so the club can hopefully move forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 Is the idea that Merrington would be chief exec then? no he will be DOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 SCud, the thing that made me want the club to appoint NP had nothing to do with his managing prowess as i was not too carried away by that but by the way the fans were united brehind him.Now I know he'd be having a crusade start to mount againsyt him if the results were poor but it would mean we as a club could unite and then move on. I dont take a large slice of this board as an example of the fan base but if we could get over the constant negatives the re would at least be some pece for the club to move on. Too many people are waiting in the sidelines to prove a point if things go wrong. They in turn pick away at the moral of the regular fans and it is a drip drip effect. Clean the whole lot out and then there are no axes to grind and so the club can hopefully move forward. Well i agree on the whole Nigel Pearson thing...but we are where are... And i'm not weary of new senior management per se...just weary that we don't go down the anyone but what we have at present route...it's a dangerous game to play... I'm not after a free spending multi millionaire...just a team of people that can get us on an even keel...and the sheer amount of delays don't exactly lead me to believe that these guys have the clout to provide that... But then i try not to get too involved in all this talk as it bores me to tears... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 Surely though, would a prudent investor not wait for the club to go into administration and buy it much cheaper as a going concern rather than try to buy all the shares in the next few months for a larger sum? Just a thought. The trouble is by the time all the dust has settled, your assets have gone and you are stuck with a 17 point penalty. If you don't have the money and it's the only way you can afford the club, then obviously it makes sense. But don't fool yourself here, we will still be in a far worse position. Many seem to think that administration will wipe the slate clean and give us a fresh start. Well I suppose it will in a way, but a league lower with far less assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 Many seem to think that administration will wipe the slate clean and give us a fresh start. Well I suppose it will in a way, but a league lower with far less assets. stalling seems to be yielding the same results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 Well i agree on the whole Nigel Pearson thing...but we are where are... And i'm not weary of new senior management per se...just weary that we don't go down the anyone but what we have at present route...it's a dangerous game to play... I'm not after a free spending multi millionaire...just a team of people that can get us on an even keel...and the sheer amount of delays don't exactly lead me to believe that these guys have the clout to provide that... But then i try not to get too involved in all this talk as it bores me to tears...Again Im on your side, I dont want anyone but RL etc but if we are to get rid of him I would require the lot to be rid of. Askham ,Coroner the lot.Let the club find a complete new identity under completely new faces so nobody has an axe to grind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 So he can paint a picture of gloom...conitinually complain because we're playing a formation that he really can't get his head round...and generally run the existing regime down every week in a bid to boost his own popularity. Clearly a conflict of interest, his agenda driven commentary can be infectious. If these guys are unable to raise the funds in the timescale, since their alleged interest became public, how are they going to add anything to the club oppose to having just scraped enough to square off shareholders and another regime change, oh yeah and appoint Shearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 Clearly a conflict of interest, his agenda driven commentary can be infectious. If these guys are unable to raise the funds in the timescale, since their alleged interest became public, how are they going to add anything to the club oppose to having just scraped enough to square off shareholders and another regime change, oh yeah and appoint Shearer. Too right it is...how many texts were they reading out last night about how we need to go to 4-4-2? Also thought they were pretty negative on Saturday...i had Sky Sports News on in the background and the Solent commentary...you'd think the Solent commentary would be biased towards us but Scott Minto seemed to have a lot more good things to say about the game than the Solent boys... Although in fairness not beating Barnsley at home is pretty painful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 Although in fairness not beating Barnsley at home is pretty painful Especially after doing so well against them last year. Oh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 Especially after doing so well against them last year. Oh! Past pain doesn't make present pain any easier to bear. I'm hurting here man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 Too right it is...how many texts were they reading out last night about how we need to go to 4-4-2? Also thought they were pretty negative on Saturday...i had Sky Sports News on in the background and the Solent commentary...you'd think the Solent commentary would be biased towards us but Scott Minto seemed to have a lot more good things to say about the game than the Solent boys... Although in fairness not beating Barnsley at home is pretty painful Sorry the Scott Minto I listened to had nothing good to say about us - indeed why should he or Dave Merrington be biased to us after that performance! Why the sudden campaign against Dave Merrington? I think he makes sense, only a fool could think the current plan and personnel has any hope of succeeding. We desperately need financial rescue and proper leadership throughout the club before we end up doing a Titanic. If DM can help this happen welcome it I say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 Surely though, would a prudent investor not wait for the club to go into administration and buy it much cheaper as a going concern rather than try to buy all the shares in the next few months for a larger sum? Just a thought. perhaps they want to buy a CCC side now, keep them up and then get them promoted to the Premiership the following season rather than sit and wait and acquire a League 1 side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 Is the idea that Merrington would be chief exec then? Club chaplain, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 1 October, 2008 Share Posted 1 October, 2008 Must say i had a chuckle to myself last night as Radio Solent finished up by saying that they thought it a little unfair that they had the criticism of being negative levelled at them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 1 October, 2008 Share Posted 1 October, 2008 Is the idea that Merrington would be chief exec then? His role worries me slightly. Nice bloke with Saints at heart;great youth team manager,dropped in it for first team manager - although was really a puppet for Lawrie-and cast aside in a contemptible way. But what qualifies him as to make the leap from pundit to DOF ? I'd like to persevere with JP rather than experiment yet again with say Dave Merrington trying to fulfill his own personal dream ticket of bringing Shearer back to 'mentor him'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 1 October, 2008 Share Posted 1 October, 2008 His role worries me slightly. Nice bloke with Saints at heart;great youth team manager,dropped in it for first team manager - although was really a puppet for Lawrie-and cast aside in a contemptible way. But what qualifies him as to make the leap from pundit to DOF ? I'd like to persevere with JP rather than experiment yet again with say Dave Merrington trying to fulfill his own personal dream ticket of bringing Shearer back to 'mentor him'. Is he also bipolar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 1 October, 2008 Share Posted 1 October, 2008 Is he also bipolar? "I said no..." "Come on John...don't fight it...you know you have feelings for me" "I'm not f::cking gay alright?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 1 October, 2008 Share Posted 1 October, 2008 "I said no..." "Come on John...don't fight it...you know you have feelings for me" "I'm not f::cking gay alright?" Made me laugh!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 1 October, 2008 Share Posted 1 October, 2008 Again Im on your side, I dont want anyone but RL etc but if we are to get rid of him I would require the lot to be rid of. Askham ,Coroner the lot.Let the club find a complete new identity under completely new faces so nobody has an axe to grind. sums up my feelings only problem is we will never know if any new owner is a potential Wilde until it is to late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 1 October, 2008 Share Posted 1 October, 2008 sums up my feelings only problem is we will never know if any new owner is a potential Wilde until it is to late. In fairness there were warning signs that Wilde wasn't the answer when he first showed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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