beatlesaint Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 Perhaps its just me, too much food etc etc and my brain has gone but could someone please explain the wisdom behind JP leaving Euell, Perry and BWP out of the game at Plymouth and "resting" them for the Reading game ? As far as i can see why would you fail to play your strongest team in the game you are most likely to have a chance winning ? Plymouth or Reading........umm.......I would have thought that the chances of beating Plymouth were better than beating a Reading side who are excellent away and will be gunning for us after beating them, somehow, at their place. Have I missed some great Dutch tactical thinking here or what ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 The OS will say injured while the truth will probably be they stood up to the managers tactics during training and now under the orders of Lowe they will not feature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 27 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 27 December, 2008 The OS will say injured while the truth will probably be they stood up to the managers tactics during training and now under the orders of Lowe they will not feature! Well he will have to play them tomorrow cos, as usual when they play 2 games pretty close together the "boysh" will be tired !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 you could be right but i dont subscribe to this resting players ******.plymouth were there for the taking and we had to make sure that we took advantage of that by playing our strongest side.we had more chance of beating plymouth than we do of beating reading so i would have put a team out to win at plymouth and against reading i would put a more defensive team out perhaps in the hope of snatching a draw. resting players is sh1te imo......rest them for what exactly?,they dont deserve a rest, they should be able to play 2 or 3 games a week easily.............i managed 3 games a week until i was 35 and still play 1 game a week at nearly 42 and thats without any training,a belly full of beer,4 kids and grafting hard 5 days a week....:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 27 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 27 December, 2008 you could be right but i dont subscribe to this resting players ******.plymouth were there for the taking and we had to make sure that we took advantage of that by playing our strongest side.we had more chance of beating plymouth than we do of beating reading so i would have put a team out to win at plymouth and against reading i would put a more defensive team out perhaps in the hope of snatching a draw. resting players is sh1te imo......rest them for what exactly?,they dont deserve a rest, they should be able to play 2 or 3 games a week easily.............i managed 3 games a week until i was 35 and still play 1 game a week at nearly 42 and thats without any training,a belly full of beer,4 kids and grafting hard 5 days a week....:-) Well exactly, I am still waiting for someone at the club to explain how young athletes (dont laugh, thats what they should be) can get tired playing two games a week. Its just bull****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 We are not talking about park football here. I used to play Saturday afternoons and Sunday mornings but expecting people to play at this level twice within a couple of days is a bit different. There is the mental tiredness as well as the physical aspect. In the good old days of the 60's and 70's player could have a breather but the game is played at such a fast pace now that you cannot switch off for a second (apart from our defence of course!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 We are not talking about park football here. I used to play Saturday afternoons and Sunday mornings but expecting people to play at this level twice within a couple of days is a bit different. There is the mental tiredness as well as the physical aspect. In the good old days of the 60's and 70's player could have a breather but the game is played at such a fast pace now that you cannot switch off for a second (apart from our defence of course!!!) So explain to me why we play the 'multiball' system at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 Maybe he is keeping them injury free so they will go in the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 Maybe he is keeping them injury free so they will go in the window. I see Lallana picked up an "injury" in Xmas day training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 I see Lallana picked up an "injury" in Xmas day training. I contacted someone yesterday with all the suggestions that the dressing room had been lost. The answer I got was no it has not. I asked why such a bizzare team choice The answer I got was 2 games in 2 days is a killer Lallana injured himself in training on Christmas day. His ankle came up like a balloon and on crutches. McGoldrick was going to be rested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 Maybe he is keeping them injury free so they will go in the window. I tend to agree with that but perhaps all that Lowe's ego really wants is for us to put on a real show against Manchester United in the hope of grabbing a draw and a replay at Old Trafford (or even a win and another big game). All season all we seem to do is win against the better teams and against all ODDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 We are not talking about park football here. I used to play Saturday afternoons and Sunday mornings but expecting people to play at this level twice within a couple of days is a bit different. There is the mental tiredness as well as the physical aspect. In the good old days of the 60's and 70's player could have a breather but the game is played at such a fast pace now that you cannot switch off for a second (apart from our defence of course!!!) Oh please you surely play your strongest side against a weak team , where you have a chance of some points. We are 4th bottom in the CCC not 4th top of the premiership, i wonder how many CCC rested players yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 I contacted someone yesterday with all the suggestions that the dressing room had been lost. The answer I got was no it has not. I asked why such a bizzare team choice The answer I got was 2 games in 2 days is a killer Lallana injured himself in training on Christmas day. His ankle came up like a balloon and on crutches. McGoldrick was going to be rested. and Robertson had a smack in his car christmas day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 So explain to me why we play the 'multiball' system at home? Ah, I think you've cracked it... Total Football means having a football on the pitch at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 Oh please you surely play your strongest side against a weak team , where you have a chance of some points. We are 4th bottom in the CCC not 4th top of the premiership, i wonder how many CCC rested players yesterday exactly,against teams that we have agood chance of winning you put out a side to beat them,a side that gives us the best chance to turn them over......against the 'better' teams you put out a team to contain them and maybe get something out of the game.this especially applies to teams like us who are fighting for survival.when we have gained enough points for safety then players can be rested,lets face it being an overpaid ponce isnt exactly hard work is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 exactly,against teams that we have agood chance of winning you put out a side to beat them,a side that gives us the best chance to turn them over......against the 'better' teams you put out a team to contain them and maybe get something out of the game.this especially applies to teams like us who are fighting for survival.when we have gained enough points for safety then players can be rested,lets face it being an overpaid ponce isnt exactly hard work is it. My POINT is that very few CCC sides rest players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 My POINT is that very few CCC sides rest players But our players are only boysh, so they need to be rested, otherwise they will be exhausted, unlike the old gaffers who can play every week. It really beggars belief, these young lad should be able to play 3 times a week, their recovery period must be shorter than some of the old lags. Sadly yet more indication that our inexperienced coaching staff have no idea what they are doing. In the Dutch League there are only 34 games a season (I think, though not sure at the 3rd division level that JP is used to), this is not an issue for them. Incidentally, one thing that has always intrigued me. If the Dutch style is so good, how come we have not signed some good young Dutch players, you know the ones that Poortvliet and Wotte must know from their days in Holland. Maybe its because they don't want to play for nobodies, or maybe JP and MW actually have no decent expereince even in their home land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 But our players are only boysh, so they need to be rested, otherwise they will be exhausted, unlike the old gaffers who can play every week. It really beggars belief, these young lad should be able to play 3 times a week, their recovery period must be shorter than some of the old lags. Sadly yet more indication that our inexperienced coaching staff have no idea what they are doing. In the Dutch League there are only 34 games a season (I think, though not sure at the 3rd division level that JP is used to), this is not an issue for them. Incidentally, one thing that has always intrigued me. If the Dutch style is so good, how come we have not signed some good young Dutch players, you know the ones that Poortvliet and Wotte must know from their days in Holland. Maybe its because they don't want to play for nobodies, or maybe JP and MW actually have no decent expereince even in their home land. that jumped out from JP's CV he lacks experience in management at this level even in his own country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 It was crazy to rest players for yesterday's match. Especially when those who were rested (Perry, BWP, Euell) had not played for 6 days whereas their replacements (Lancashire, Smith, Gobern/Gillett - along with Paterson, Mills, Mclaggon and Forecast) had played an 'especially arranged' reserve match 4 days previously. Although most of the 'reserves' did play only either the first or second halves it still makes no sense at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 27 December, 2008 Share Posted 27 December, 2008 But our players are only boysh, so they need to be rested, otherwise they will be exhausted, unlike the old gaffers who can play every week. It really beggars belief, these young lad should be able to play 3 times a week, their recovery period must be shorter than some of the old lags. Sadly yet more indication that our inexperienced coaching staff have no idea what they are doing. In the Dutch League there are only 34 games a season (I think, though not sure at the 3rd division level that JP is used to), this is not an issue for them. Incidentally, one thing that has always intrigued me. If the Dutch style is so good, how come we have not signed some good young Dutch players, you know the ones that Poortvliet and Wotte must know from their days in Holland. Maybe its because they don't want to play for nobodies, or maybe JP and MW actually have no decent expereince even in their home land. You are not following the script prepared by Mr Lowe. Our boys will be trained/coached in the Dutch style during the first year. Many Dutch boys will be brought over during the second year. They will then be integrated into a team playing to a total football method in the fourth year. We will then work our way back up from the Conference South in the fifth year. I am not sure what happened in the third year...possibly too many AGMs and not enough football...I nearly lost the plot there for a moment. Anyway this is the five year plan that the Dutch masterclass and The squadron leader, Rupes, have set their compass by...God, sorry Lowey, I really can't wait. Easy , really. That is where all the young Dutch talent is...Waiting to be a part of the five year plan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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