Dogs Posted 28 December, 2008 Share Posted 28 December, 2008 I hope Corkys contract can be extended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 December, 2008 Share Posted 28 December, 2008 I hope Corkys contract can be extended. And that McGoldrick can maintain his interest and motivation into a run of games......... Let's face it, Rupert Lowe has more chance of turning into a nun than either of those happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 28 December, 2008 Share Posted 28 December, 2008 Cork is going back to Chelsea tomorrow to discuss extending the loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 December, 2008 Share Posted 28 December, 2008 Cork is going back to Chelsea tomorrow to discuss extending the loan. CORK : Hello Mr. Scolari, can I please stay at Southampton Football Club a bit longer ? BIG PHIL : No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 28 December, 2008 Share Posted 28 December, 2008 Cork may eve be required for cover in the Chelsea squad in Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 28 December, 2008 Share Posted 28 December, 2008 CORK : Hello Mr. Scolari, can I please stay at Southampton Football Club a bit longer ? BIG PHIL : No. Why? Because he will learn more at Bolton watching from the bench while the ball is hoofed from one end of the park to the other?? Whatever WE think about our approach, other managers love the idea of their kids learning to play football the right way. This kid was on loan all last season at S****horpe .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 28 December, 2008 Share Posted 28 December, 2008 And that McGoldrick can maintain his interest and motivation into a run of games......... Let's face it, Rupert Lowe has more chance of turning into a nun than either of those happening. Cork did play well, very good on the ground but doesn't win a lot in the air. McGoldrick scored after McLaggon outran the defence and gave him a one on one with the keeper, he was pretty poor in the first half despite hitting the bar with a cracking shot, but the target is 24ftx8ft from 18 yds. He was strolling as usual, when we needed to break, Gillett went past him like he was stood still, Smith had the ball but he still didn't bother to get into the box. If he has the ball he goes for it, but his off the ball running is poor. His passing was poor and he seems more interested in making space for his own shot than putting in a colleague. Still, he scored, maybe he will now get a run going, still he has to do a whole lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 28 December, 2008 Share Posted 28 December, 2008 Thought Cork, McG and Perry were all superb Paterson, Gobern, James not far behind Skacel, Gillett, Davis, BWP, Euell were ok Holmes and Smith were disappointing McLaggon changed the game though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 28 December, 2008 Share Posted 28 December, 2008 McGoldrick's work rate was much improved. Cork made some excellent tackles. Gobern really impressed me today. I can see him picking up a couple of goals from corners or set pieces if he gets some more starts, which he will judging by today's performance. He seems pretty strong and determined for a nipper. McLaggon looks like another talent we could use. Very quick. Has he got a shot on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 28 December, 2008 Share Posted 28 December, 2008 CORK : Hello Mr. Scolari, can I please stay at Southampton Football Club a bit longer ? BIG PHIL : No. maybe, but he loaned him in the first place so why not extend it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Cork did play well, very good on the ground but doesn't win a lot in the air. McGoldrick scored after McLaggon outran the defence and gave him a one on one with the keeper, he was pretty poor in the first half despite hitting the bar with a cracking shot, but the target is 24ftx8ft from 18 yds. He was strolling as usual, when we needed to break, Gillett went past him like he was stood still, Smith had the ball but he still didn't bother to get into the box. If he has the ball he goes for it, but his off the ball running is poor. His passing was poor and he seems more interested in making space for his own shot than putting in a colleague. Still, he scored, maybe he will now get a run going, still he has to do a whole lot better. Shut up. McGoldrick scored after he made some great space and made a decent run combined with a fantastic run from McLaggon. He has never and never will be Brett Ormerod, so get over the fact that he strolls around, his game is too drop off not to make bursting runs beyond people. Saying that, personally I thought he worked his ******** off today, and as for your claim he is more interested in making space for his own shot than playing in a colleague, well **** me, a striker being selfish? Disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 (edited) Cork did play well, very good on the ground but doesn't win a lot in the air. McGoldrick scored after McLaggon outran the defence and gave him a one on one with the keeper, he was pretty poor in the first half despite hitting the bar with a cracking shot, but the target is 24ftx8ft from 18 yds. He was strolling as usual, when we needed to break, Gillett went past him like he was stood still, Smith had the ball but he still didn't bother to get into the box. If he has the ball he goes for it, but his off the ball running is poor. His passing was poor and he seems more interested in making space for his own shot than putting in a colleague. Still, he scored, maybe he will now get a run going, still he has to do a whole lot better. What f*****g game were you watching? McGoldrick was outstanding today. Fully deserved his goal. A well judged forward run more than matched by an absolute peach of a pass from from McLaggan. He will score more goals if he gets that kind of service. Edited 29 December, 2008 by St_Tel49 missing word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexlabibi Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Wasnt at the game today but was at the last home game againt Forest. Mcgoldrick then was truly s*** but was he really any good today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fen Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 What f*****g game were you watching? McGoldrick was outstanding today. Fully deserved his goal. A well judged forward run more than matched by an absolute peach of a pass from from McLaggan. He will score more goals if he gets that kind of service. I agree McGoldricks best game for sometime, if only he worked that hard every week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Cork did play well, very good on the ground but doesn't win a lot in the air. McGoldrick scored after McLaggon outran the defence and gave him a one on one with the keeper, he was pretty poor in the first half despite hitting the bar with a cracking shot, but the target is 24ftx8ft from 18 yds. He was strolling as usual, when we needed to break, Gillett went past him like he was stood still, Smith had the ball but he still didn't bother to get into the box. If he has the ball he goes for it, but his off the ball running is poor. His passing was poor and he seems more interested in making space for his own shot than putting in a colleague. Still, he scored, maybe he will now get a run going, still he has to do a whole lot better. Derry did everyone forget you at Christmas? You definitely sound bitter and twisted about DMG. I thought he was easily the best player on the park as did David Armstrong! Please get over it and start giving credit and praise where its due instead of all of the negative crap..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Saint Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 I have to agree i thought Cork perry and Macca were brilliant Macca has had plenty of stick on here I have given him some myself but he had a great game good goal good work rate Cork is different class good enough for the prem in my book. I thought Gillett was sh1te Holmes looked knackered after 10 mins overall good performance just wish we played like that against Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Why? Because he will learn more at Bolton watching from the bench while the ball is hoofed from one end of the park to the other?? Whatever WE think about our approach, other managers love the idea of their kids learning to play football the right way. This kid was on loan all last season at S****horpe .... Which is why the cream of Premiership youth are coming through the doors of St Marys in their droves................................oh. If does make me laugh, McGoaldrought actually does what is expected of him and SCORES A GOAL and suddenly people are praising him, I will reserve my praise until he proves he can do it regularly. At the moment I think he is no more than shiite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerMom Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Thought Cork, McG and Perry were all superb Paterson, Gobern, James not far behind Skacel, Gillett, Davis, BWP, Euell were ok Holmes and Smith were disappointing McLaggon changed the game though... Davis was OK? Um, didn't he actually save the draw with an outstanding tip over the bar in injury time - after having been treated on the pitch a few minutes before? Didn't he save Perry's behind in the first half by taking on Long (? was it?) and get stamped on in the process? Thought he had balls of steel yesterday. Would agree about McLaggon - I just hope that he won't go the way of Lancashire and Fish and buckle under the pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Gobern and Paterson both deserve praise, they where both brilliant. Was nice to see some height and power in the team, I felt it gave us a lot of balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Cork did play well, very good on the ground but doesn't win a lot in the air. McGoldrick scored after McLaggon outran the defence and gave him a one on one with the keeper, he was pretty poor in the first half despite hitting the bar with a cracking shot, but the target is 24ftx8ft from 18 yds. He was strolling as usual, when we needed to break, Gillett went past him like he was stood still, Smith had the ball but he still didn't bother to get into the box. If he has the ball he goes for it, but his off the ball running is poor. His passing was poor and he seems more interested in making space for his own shot than putting in a colleague. Still, he scored, maybe he will now get a run going, still he has to do a whole lot better.Derry Im surprised in your assessment of DMG in yesterdays game. It took you a long time to appreciate Davis i do hope you will be mor3e open minded in taking a liking to DMG. He has taken stick and he did run and chase, and also scored. He looked dangerous most of the game and it seemed he plays better alongside a big forward rather than up by himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbenny Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 I got to the game really early yesterday and had a very quick chat with Cork as he was going into the ground. He said he is heading back to Chelsea today where he is going to talk about his future. He said he wants to come back for the rest of the season and see's no reason why this should not happen. I asked him to sign for us for ten years...and he just laughed! Seems like a top bloke. I thought Perry and Cork were outstanding yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 i have to say after Lloyd James had alot of stick at the start of the season (and rightly so IMO) he is really starting to look alot better, simular sort of player to Wayne Bridge when he was at Saints though still miles from that - hope he keeps improving! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incongruous Monk Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 McGoldrick was better yesterday because he was played facing the goal. Given the chance to run at defences and burst forward from a deeper position he an entirely different player. In most previous games he's stuck up front on his own receiving the ball back to goal and he just can't do it. He needs a Paterson, Stern John, or possibly even a Euell in front of him to get the most from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerMom Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 i have to say after Lloyd James had alot of stick at the start of the season (and rightly so IMO) he is really starting to look alot better, simular sort of player to Wayne Bridge when he was at Saints though still miles from that - hope he keeps improving! Yet again yesterday he showed that he can cross as well or better than anyone else in the team - given the opportunity and a bit more experience he could be a great asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Yet again yesterday he showed that he can cross as well or better than anyone else in the team - given the opportunity and a bit more experience he could be a great asset. Yes, I've been impressed by him lately. I still think he's too lightweight for a full-back, wasn't he flattened for the Reading goal yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 (edited) His display was a long way short of great or terrific, he was just a lot better than he has been, which has been pretty poor. I have no intention going overboard about a player who has only managed a handfull of goals, I don't think has made a chance for a colleague, has managed one goal in the last 10 games, was cheered when substituted (not by me), except for an accident to Robertson, wouldn't have played v Plymouth. He played considerably better yesterday but a long way short of what he could and should achieve, if he strolled a lot less and put more effort in, in support of colleagues. His letting the opponent go, he was supposed to be marking at set pieces, has cost us several goals. Give it another couple of weeks, if he doesn't produce the same level of performance he will be slaughtered again by the same people going overboard now. Edited 29 December, 2008 by derry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Which is why the cream of Premiership youth are coming through the doors of St Marys in their droves................................oh. If does make me laugh, McGoaldrought actually does what is expected of him and SCORES A GOAL and suddenly people are praising him, I will reserve my praise until he proves he can do it regularly. At the moment I think he is no more than shiite. Quite so...one swallow does not make a summer...the lazy ass needs to buckle down on a regular basis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Derry Im surprised in your assessment of DMG in yesterdays game. It took you a long time to appreciate Davis i do hope you will be mor3e open minded in taking a liking to DMG. He has taken stick and he did run and chase, and also scored. He looked dangerous most of the game and it seemed he plays better alongside a big forward rather than up by himself. The Davis I appreciate now, has put some of the obvious faults right. His short ball distribution is quite good, rather than non existent, His coming for crosses has improved, rather than never coming, at least he is trying. His long kickouts have improved no end as he is hitting them towards the corners away from the big centre backs. That added to his brilliant shot stopping makes him a pretty competent keeper rather than the liability he was. Because he has made the effort to put right these faults, if they result in odd mistakes, I can live with that As for McGoldrick, he got his goal after McLaggon's brilliant run, as the front man. He is definitely not a target man and needs somebody to play off, Maybe Saganowski if they let him play. Paterson did well but needs time. He is an enigma for me, he does some good things on the ball, the problem is off the ball, I can see runs or positions he should be getting into and he is strolling. He doesn't defend from the front just wanders back. When he was picked wide he could have been really dangerous, but like Lallana didn't want to play there, so didn't. Yesterday he had a great chance to get 2 on 1 on the CB, when Smith breaking, had the ball wide and had pulled the other CB over, acres of space, Gillet was 20 yds behind him and nearly got there, McGoldrick didn't bother, just jogged forward. If he had bust a gut, we could have really opened them up. All season I have been watching him very closely, I think he needs to be on or near to the ball before making an effort, he never gambles, or tries to take a marker for a walk to create space for someone else. It seems the end product of him getting a chance has to be there, if not he spectates/ball watches, strolling, jogging, or just hands on hips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerMom Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Yes, I've been impressed by him lately. I still think he's too lightweight for a full-back, wasn't he flattened for the Reading goal yesterday? Yes, but given that Davis was, too, the guy must have had considerable momentum. No question he still needs to grow into the role. I don't think that fullback is always a natural position for a kid. Bale might have been super-talented, but he still got turned over more often than not. Bear in mind that if Rudi hadn't come back (excuse me, been allowed back) into the squad, we'd still have a choice of AS or Fish at left-back. I hope that Fish is still in contention sometime as I think he is truly gifted and a *real* LB. But we would need Thomas to come back into the centre, as more than two kids at the back is (as we have seen) suicidal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Derry did everyone forget you at Christmas? You definitely sound bitter and twisted about DMG. I thought he was easily the best player on the park as did David Armstrong! Please get over it and start giving credit and praise where its due instead of all of the negative crap.....[/quote We are in fact pretty flawed, poorly led, and as for the best player on the park, be thankful for small mercies, a half decent performance, after too many bad ones, plus one goal in his tenth without scoring. He could be a good player, but his attitude is poor. I am a realist and an FA coach and I don't see the game as a fan. It is what we are, that is hurting us. All good teams play the same way, width in attack, concentrating on defined target areas, defending in depth, defend from the front, getting numbers behind the ball and then breaking out in numbers with pace. We defend wide, don't get numbers behind the ball, attack narrow, and don't defend from the front, very fragile at set pieces conversely pretty hopeless at attacking set pieces. Consequently we are getting the results we deserve. With the same players we would be a much better and more successful team if these simple deficencies were rectified. Interestingly, crap is what we watched happening after we scored and tried to play out the rest of the game, handing over the initiative to Reading and the inevitable happened. For the 4th time this season I think. That was the time to be positive and finish them off on the break leaving three up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redorwhitelion Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Derry did everyone forget you at Christmas? You definitely sound bitter and twisted about DMG. I thought he was easily the best player on the park as did David Armstrong! Please get over it and start giving credit and praise where its due instead of all of the negative crap.....[/quote We are in fact pretty flawed, poorly led, and as for the best player on the park, be thankful for small mercies, a half decent performance, after too many bad ones, plus one goal in his tenth without scoring. He could be a good player, but his attitude is poor. I am a realist and an FA coach and I don't see the game as a fan. It is what we are, that is hurting us. All good teams play the same way, width in attack, concentrating on defined target areas, defending in depth, defend from the front, getting numbers behind the ball and then breaking out in numbers with pace. We defend wide, don't get numbers behind the ball, attack narrow, and don't defend from the front, very fragile at set pieces conversely pretty hopeless at attacking set pieces. Consequently we are getting the results we deserve. With the same players we would be a much better and more successful team if these simple deficencies were rectified. Interestingly, crap is what we watched happening after we scored and tried to play out the rest of the game, handing over the initiative to Reading and the inevitable happened. For the 4th time this season I think. That was the time to be positive and finish them off on the break leaving three up. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/dec/28/southampton-reading-championship-football. Not just Modern Matron and David Armstrong, put members of the national media with no previous conceptions of any of our players I assume. Some of your points are bang on, why Holmes kept coming inside I really don't know. Perhaps he wasn't fit enough to run up and down the touch line all afternoon yet, but please stay wide. We looked much stronger with BWP and McClaggon. Time to take the blinkers off when you're watching McGoldrick though, some games he hasn't been great, certainly when put out wide, but I actually think he quite strong (compare against Robertson at Charlton) and he does come and link play up. He'll never be a headless Ormerod type player and nor should he try to be. He's got a lot to learn I just hope he learns quickly enough and takes confidence from the praise he's recived from almost all quarters today. BTW - I would give the FA coach/fan thing a rest, it is a touch patronising to the 95% of the people who read this board (and don't necessarilly post) and know the game backtofront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Cork may eve be required for cover in the Chelsea squad in Jan. I know he's not as fit as he was but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Which is why the cream of Premiership youth are coming through the doors of St Marys in their droves................................oh. If does make me laugh, McGoaldrought actually does what is expected of him and SCORES A GOAL and suddenly people are praising him, I will reserve my praise until he proves he can do it regularly. At the moment I think he is no more than shiite. The cream of Premiership youth are still on more than we can afford... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/dec/28/southampton-reading-championship-football. Not just Modern Matron and David Armstrong, put members of the national media with no previous conceptions of any of our players I assume. Some of your points are bang on, why Holmes kept coming inside I really don't know. Perhaps he wasn't fit enough to run up and down the touch line all afternoon yet, but please stay wide. We looked much stronger with BWP and McClaggon. Time to take the blinkers off when you're watching McGoldrick though, some games he hasn't been great, certainly when put out wide, but I actually think he quite strong (compare against Robertson at Charlton) and he does come and link play up. He'll never be a headless Ormerod type player and nor should he try to be. He's got a lot to learn I just hope he learns quickly enough and takes confidence from the praise he's recived from almost all quarters today. BTW - I would give the FA coach/fan thing a rest, it is a touch patronising to the 95% of the people who read this board (and don't necessarilly post) and know the game backtofront. I prefer to wait until he performs regularly, at his present rate we could get two good ones by the end of the season. I personally hope he proves me wrong, plays brilliantly and scores a hat full. As for the 95% knowing the game back to front, there is precious little evidence of that on here. More like 5%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 i have to say after Lloyd James had alot of stick at the start of the season (and rightly so IMO) he is really starting to look alot better, simular sort of player to Wayne Bridge when he was at Saints though still miles from that - hope he keeps improving! none more so than from me. He certainly had a good game yesterday though and one header that prevented a certain goal certainly had me applauding him. Having said all that he is still weak as **** in the air which has been found out on several occassions already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 CORK : Hello Mr. Scolari, can I please stay at Southampton Football Club a bit longer ? BIG PHIL : No. It's good to see a loan player willing to speak to his boss about extending the loan don't you think? He (Cork) knows full well his first team chances at Chelsea are virtually nil so why not gain more valuable experience in a championship side willing to give him first team football. Apart from that thanks for your valuable input in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Cork may eve be required for cover in the Chelsea squad in Jan. I'm sure he is well down in the pecking order at Chelsea, however your cryptic clue with 'Jan' in the quote could go some way to where he will be for the rest of the season, hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Cork did play well, very good on the ground but doesn't win a lot in the air. McGoldrick scored after McLaggon outran the defence and gave him a one on one with the keeper, he was pretty poor in the first half despite hitting the bar with a cracking shot, but the target is 24ftx8ft from 18 yds. He was strolling as usual, when we needed to break, Gillett went past him like he was stood still, Smith had the ball but he still didn't bother to get into the box. If he has the ball he goes for it, but his off the ball running is poor. His passing was poor and he seems more interested in making space for his own shot than putting in a colleague. Still, he scored, maybe he will now get a run going, still he has to do a whole lot better. sorry I think you have got that wrong. DMG showed a high work rate, good movement and some nice touches -throughout the game. Cracking shot as you mention and good finish for the goal. This thread is about yesterdays game and DMG showed all the things he had been lacking. Whether he can keep it going and be consistent who knows, but firmly believe you are wrong about yesterday and he had a suprisingly good game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 sorry I think you have got that wrong. DMG showed a high work rate, good movement and some nice touches -throughout the game. Cracking shot as you mention and good finish for the goal. This thread is about yesterdays game and DMG showed all the things he had been lacking. Whether he can keep it going and be consistent who knows, but firmly believe you are wrong about yesterday and he had a suprisingly good game He is a bit schizophrenic, football wise, he works hard close to the ball or if there looks like something in it for him. What he certainly doesn't do is work hard off the ball, tracking back, making runs to create space, covering colleagues, getting wide if there is space left, etc. Still after the way he has been playing, I'm thankful that he played reasonably well and scored for once. He could be a very dangerous player at this level if he applied himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4INT Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 I thought the whole squad were great yesterday, I couldn't fault anyone despite worrying initially about the team selection. I also thought the substitutions were perfect and if only the defence had learnt their lessons and played higher up the field rather than playing so deeply and inviting the pressure like we always do then we might have got three points. I wish people would just stick to the football, everyone's always going on about how bad things are and how changing everything would magically make everything better. Isn't that what got us relegated from the Premiership? Perhaps if we just got on with our supporting that can be so constructive to the team we might do a bit better. Starting with Manchester United Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 He is a bit schizophrenic, football wise, he works hard close to the ball or if there looks like something in it for him. What he certainly doesn't do is work hard off the ball, tracking back, making runs to create space, covering colleagues, getting wide if there is space left, etc. Still after the way he has been playing, I'm thankful that he played reasonably well and scored for once. He could be a very dangerous player at this level if he applied himself. totally agree that those criticisms apply to him this season -although not yesterday when he was even tracking back and tackling. You are right he is a strange on, and I still think potentially a very good one. Watched him that season when he scored a ridiculous amount for reserves and youth -thought he looked a poor player at times but just found scoring easy as he strutted around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Derry did everyone forget you at Christmas? You definitely sound bitter and twisted about DMG. I thought he was easily the best player on the park as did David Armstrong! Please get over it and start giving credit and praise where its due instead of all of the negative crap.....[/quote We are in fact pretty flawed, poorly led, and as for the best player on the park, be thankful for small mercies, a half decent performance, after too many bad ones, plus one goal in his tenth without scoring. He could be a good player, but his attitude is poor. I am a realist and an FA coach and I don't see the game as a fan. It is what we are, that is hurting us. All good teams play the same way, width in attack, concentrating on defined target areas, defending in depth, defend from the front, getting numbers behind the ball and then breaking out in numbers with pace. We defend wide, don't get numbers behind the ball, attack narrow, and don't defend from the front, very fragile at set pieces conversely pretty hopeless at attacking set pieces. Consequently we are getting the results we deserve. With the same players we would be a much better and more successful team if these simple deficencies were rectified. Interestingly, crap is what we watched happening after we scored and tried to play out the rest of the game, handing over the initiative to Reading and the inevitable happened. For the 4th time this season I think. That was the time to be positive and finish them off on the break leaving three up. So to am i an FA coach, in the process of doing my level 4 and have support from a club in the region if i wish to be put forward for the pro licence. And i have to say the only reason we arnt scoring is bodies in the box, the only reason we arnt keeping clean sheets is we cant defend a long ball. not one person goes up for the first knock, and there is knowone sweeping round behind to pick up loose pieces. also we do not defend in the 'box' system which would make defending much much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfclegend Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Thought Cork, McG and Perry were all superb Paterson, Gobern, James not far behind Skacel, Gillett, Davis, BWP, Euell were ok Holmes and Smith were disappointing McLaggon changed the game though... i thought skacel looked AWESOME at left back tbh much better than James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfclegend Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 So to am i an FA coach, in the process of doing my level 4 and have support from a club in the region if i wish to be put forward for the pro licence. And i have to say the only reason we arnt scoring is bodies in the box, the only reason we arnt keeping clean sheets is we cant defend a long ball. not one person goes up for the first knock, and there is knowone sweeping round behind to pick up loose pieces. also we do not defend in the 'box' system which would make defending much much easier. WOW 'cause you can coach means you know everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 more than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 more than you. in that case stop questioning the professional coaches who know more than you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 in that case stop questioning the professional coaches who know more than you! They are showing little or no evidence of that, the lad makes valid points. I gave up coaching years ago, but it does mean a formal course of study, basic ability and demonstration skills. On my last course only 3 out of 47 passed. It is easy to have an opinion whether you've played at any level, or not at all. It's not that easy to get the coaching qualifications. There is no doubt it changes the way matches are watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbay Saint Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 I personally think if Saints dont try and sign Cork on a perm (isn't his contract up at the end of the Season?) questions need to be asked. It is clear from his recent performances he is going to be an established Premier League player in future years, subject to injury. Any money spent on him now should be seen as an investment like Morgan. I would even be happy to see some of the more decent players in the squad sold to fund a move for Cork?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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