Pilchards Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 I would love it if Woy would pick this team for the Euro's. Butland Walker Stones Cahill Bertrand Barkley Wiltshire Walcott Sterling Kane Vardy Good open attacking football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 It's almost as if England wasted an entire qualifying campaign, where they were gifted some of the weakest opposition imaginable, and instead of looking at bring through a crop of in-form players who were showing why they deserved to be in the national team, he built the squad around getting an out of form and past-it forward so he could claim a special badge for scoring penalties against dog-and-duck level opponents, picking big team bench players as he went. It's almost like that, but the FA are a progressive modern organisation with a long term plan, right? P.S. Delph plays after what, 94 minutes all season? Who exactly is in this "crop of in form players showing why they deserved to be in the national team"? I'd suggest none of them, none of them are as good as a young Scholes, Beckham, Ferdindand or Cole. Or indeed the young Wayne Rooney. Whichever players you're talking about, they're nothing more than the "why are we still playing this lot" of five or six years time. We are rapidly turning into Scotland, there's no golden generation that Roy is not picking on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 Clasie off played well tonight nothing fancy just effectively going about his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 Anyone got any clue what Roy Hodgson's football philosophy is? Do the FA really think he's the man to bring through the young players with that "philosophy"? We play in his image - well meaning but ultimately clueless and without direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 Davo quite rightly given motm in Belfast. He's great for us. If he gets injured before June we'll be screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 (edited) Well, game over. Way behind Spain in terms of quality. Bertrand was decent. Kane put himself about. Sterling poor technique and let his man go for a goal but offers lots of pace. Lallana was woeful with Barkley only a bit better Two banks of 4. We aim to his them in the break or hope for a bit of individual brilliance. Otherwise, utter gash against a good side. If we play like that and lose against France, Roy will find himself under a fair bit of pressure I reckon. Ah well. We are still crap when against a good side Edited 13 November, 2015 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 Over between Wales and Holland 3-2 to the Dutch very entertaining game with some great goals and good football....might start watching wales instead of England in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 How is the France game going on? Horrendous what is going on nearby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 How is the France game going on? Horrendous what is going on nearby France currently beating Germany 2-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 How is the France game going on? Horrendous what is going on nearby Wouldn't have thought anyone will be let out of there for a while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 Wouldn't have thought anyone will be let out of there for a while... What's going on? Edit - just seen. Jesus!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 What's going on? Up to 20 people dead, terrorist attacks on going in central paris. Gunman still on the lose apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 They re keeping everyone in apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 I'm not a massive fan of Hodgson but the players available simply aren't very good. The likes of Milner, Delph, Jones, Walker, Dier wouldn't get anywhere near the Spain squad. Our only chance in the tournament is to go very defensive and try to hit teams on the break because one thing the squad does have in abundance when everyone is fit is pacy attackers. Having a **** easy qualifying group doesn't really lend itself to developing a tactical plan because we can just turn up and muddle through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 France currently beating Germany 2-0 Cheers but meant how is it still going on given the context of the attacks going on around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 Shootings and explosions nearby. 18 reported dead and a hostage situation in progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 Awful. Puts all the chat about football into perspective : ((((( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 26 now reported dead. Looks like the work of Islamic nutters.!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 26 now reported dead. Looks like the work of Islamic nutters.!!! People said that about the Breivik massacre. How about waiting for some details before blaming the Muslims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 14 November, 2015 Share Posted 14 November, 2015 People said that about the Breivik massacre. How about waiting for some details before blaming the Muslims? You thought it might have been GreenPeace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 November, 2015 Share Posted 14 November, 2015 People said that about the Breivik massacre. How about waiting for some details before blaming the Muslims? i said it looks like. which it does. All the news channels say the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 14 November, 2015 Share Posted 14 November, 2015 People said that about the Breivik massacre. How about waiting for some details before blaming the Muslims? I reckon it was, like, the bankers. Or Tories or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 14 November, 2015 Share Posted 14 November, 2015 I reckon it was, like, the bankers. Or Tories or something. IDS comes to paris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 14 November, 2015 Share Posted 14 November, 2015 People said that about the Breivik massacre. How about waiting for some details before blaming the Muslims? In a shock twist, Islamic State have claimed responsibility for it. Never saw that coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 November, 2015 Share Posted 14 November, 2015 You thought it might have been GreenPeace? i said it looks like. which it does. All the news channels say the same I reckon it was, like, the bankers. Or Tories or something. None of you knew anything other than a mass shooting had taken place. Could quite easily have been a bunch of white supremacists unhappy about the number of foreigners in Paris. It wasn't but leaping to conclusions like that doesn't help matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 14 November, 2015 Share Posted 14 November, 2015 None of you knew anything other than a mass shooting had taken place. Could quite easily have been a bunch of white supremacists unhappy about the number of foreigners in Paris. It wasn't but leaping to conclusions like that doesn't help matters. Why does it need to 'help matters'? Everyone knows what had happened, it's not a difficult assumption is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 14 November, 2015 Share Posted 14 November, 2015 None of you knew anything other than a mass shooting had taken place. Could quite easily have been a bunch of white supremacists unhappy about the number of foreigners in Paris. It wasn't but leaping to conclusions like that doesn't help matters. Yeah just as likely to be a lively Methodist group.. I feel your such stance hinders discussions - want to be seen as the fair good guy. Don't ever get a job in security services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 14 November, 2015 Share Posted 14 November, 2015 None of you knew anything other than a mass shooting had taken place. Could quite easily have been a bunch of white supremacists unhappy about the number of foreigners in Paris. It wasn't but leaping to conclusions like that doesn't help matters. It was never going to be that, and it wasn't. The news was linking it to Muslim extremists pretty much immediately and they knew more than you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 November, 2015 Share Posted 14 November, 2015 Why does it need to 'help matters'? Everyone knows what had happened, it's not a difficult assumption is it. Just like everyone knew the Oklahoma City bombing was Muslims and so was the Oslo bombing. Yeah just as likely to be a lively Methodist group.. I feel your such stance hinders discussions - want to be seen as the fair good guy. Don't ever get a job in security services Don't give a sh*t if I'm the 'good guy'. The people who did this are utter scum and I wish we lived in a world where Islam didn't exist. Sadly we don't but I prefer to wait until I actually know something before deciding who to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 14 November, 2015 Share Posted 14 November, 2015 Just like everyone knew the Oklahoma City bombing was Muslims and so was the Oslo bombing. Don't give a sh*t if I'm the 'good guy'. The people who did this are utter scum and I wish we lived in a world where Islam didn't exist. Sadly we don't but I prefer to wait until I actually know something before deciding who to blame. No one is saying every act of terrorism is the same. in the 1980s a bomb going off under an army jeep in Belfast I would safely wsay we could rule out Al Qaida, Chechen separatists and the Vietcong Were you surprised a pick-up truck with the confederate flag wasn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 November, 2015 Share Posted 14 November, 2015 (edited) Just like everyone knew the Oklahoma City bombing was Muslims and so was the Oslo bombing. Don't give a sh*t if I'm the 'good guy'. The people who did this are utter scum and I wish we lived in a world where Islam didn't exist. Sadly we don't but I prefer to wait until I actually know something before deciding who to blame. is it really unreasonable to think this was the work of a few islamic nutjobs? ISIS did tell everyone this was going to happen when we started ferrying migrants across the med a few months ago. (whether that is relevant, who knows but it is reported that one of the gunmen was Syrian) Edited 14 November, 2015 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Neil Posted 14 November, 2015 Share Posted 14 November, 2015 Cedric starting for Portugal v Russia just kicked off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 14 November, 2015 Share Posted 14 November, 2015 I would love it if Woy would pick this team for the Euro's. Butland Walker Stones Cahill Bertrand Barkley Wiltshire Walcott Sterling Kane Vardy Good open attacking football. Anyone but Walker. He's a slightly faster Danny Butterfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 14 November, 2015 Share Posted 14 November, 2015 Apparently vvd has a knee injury? :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 14 November, 2015 Share Posted 14 November, 2015 I would love it if Woy would pick this team for the Euro's. Butland Walker Stones Cahill Bertrand Barkley Wiltshire Walcott Sterling Kane Vardy Good open attacking football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 14 November, 2015 Share Posted 14 November, 2015 Apparently vvd has a knee injury? :-( Didn't stop him playing another 25 minutes of football after he was treated on the pitch and he walked off at half time fine so I'm hoping it's not that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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