Huffton Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 "The positive is that the boys never gave up and fought till the end. That was what they had to do and next week they start again and fight to stay in the league." Think he was watching a different game to the rest of us. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=11176 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 So has he given up on competing for the play-offs now then? I thought that was his aim at the start of the season... I rollyeyedthingied him then I must admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 "The positive is that the boys never gave up and fought till the end. That was what they had to do and next week they start again and fight to stay in the league." Think he was watching a different game to the rest of us. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=11176 No, he is doing his best to preserve what little morale is left in his young team. IMO the team is shattered, we are on the verge of going bankrupt and we have no option but to trudge warily on this road right to the end. Yes it is frustrating, yes we should never have got to this position. But we are where we are, and in the next few weeks we are all going to have to stand together,united, as the storm hits us and batters us. SFC is going to need support like it has never needed it before. I will support SFC not Rupert, I will support SFC because of its proud past and traditions. We may well be battered and bruised, but together we will survive and together SFC will rise from the ashes ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Don't even bother reading it anymore.......the same old rambling bull****. Doncaster in a couple of weeks time should be interesting, particularly if we lose away to Barnsley. Oh, I only noticed today that we're away to Billy Davis's (how we could do with him now) Notts Forest on the last day of the season..........hope our fate is decided by then coz I don't fancy our chances there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 "But I thought sometimes we gave them a difficult time". CLOUD.....CUCKOO.....LAND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 i thought skacel gave up long before the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=11176 If you look at this face in one window and read the article in another it's uncanny. The picture is actually more animated. Scarey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 The man is delusional. Please get rid quick before it's too late. This is Wigleyesque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 i thought skacel gave up long before the end. I thought Skacel was excellent - he did give up (as did the nippas to be fair) on 0-3 - and clearly Fergie's plan was to attack down the left so he had less to do... but for me one of our best players by a country mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 The man is delusional. Please get rid quick before it's too late. This is Wigleyesque. AAAAaaaaaarrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 4 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 January, 2009 On a brighter note Ian Dowie was punditing. Someone lock him in the box and torture him until he agrees to be our manager!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 come again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englesaint Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 I thought Skacel was excellent - he did give up (as did the nippas to be fair) on 0-3 - and clearly Fergie's plan was to attack down the left so he had less to do... but for me one of our best players by a country mile. I thought Skacel was in my top three as well. . . . . with fourth place a long, long way behind. Think both sides looked as if they thought three nil was enough and stopped there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 He has no experience and the players have none. It is a recipe for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 come again? As in I've been worried that he's Wigleyesque from the off and it makes me go mad for the Wigley balls up to be repeated!!!!!!!!!! It's just been like watching a train come hurtling towards you. AAAAArrrrrrrggggggghhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 As in I've been worried that he's Wigleyesque from the off and it makes me go mad for the Wigley balls up to be repeated!!!!!!!!!! It's just been like watching a train come hurtling towards you. AAAAArrrrrrrggggggghhhhh Wigley, Gray, D&G... we have a track record of promoting beyond competence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Oh, yeah, me too, to be honest, although I had a pleasant flicker of 'actually, it might just work' directly after we beat Brum at home. We've prevaricated for about four games too many already, and have lost a big opportunity in letting Davies go to Forest. Rupert is fiddling while Saints burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Wigley, Gray, D&G... we have a track record of promoting beyond competence. Wotte will be next. Or worse, Sir Clive of bumchum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Wotte will be next. Or worse, Sir Clive of bumchum. At least Wotte has predigree - cannot understand why the Feyenord DoF is sitting below a man who effectively managed at Blue Sq level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 "But I thought sometimes we gave them a difficult time". CLOUD.....CUCKOO.....LAND The only "difficult times" we gave them were when Davis and Perry kept getting in the way of their shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 At least Wotte has predigree - cannot understand why the Feyenord DoF is sitting below a man who effectively managed at Blue Sq level? Ive never understood that either. When they were both appointed I assumed Wotte would be the head guy. Imagine my surprise..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 At least Wotte has predigree - cannot understand why the Feyenord DoF is sitting below a man who effectively managed at Blue Sq level? Actually he was sitting above him.... There was a quick clip of him telling his boss what was happening on the pitch, right after the clip of LM & LC sitting in the roof looking gruntled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Actually he was sitting above him.... There was a quick clip of him telling his boss what was happening on the pitch, right after the clip of LM & LC sitting in the roof looking gruntled. LOL - I think you know what I meant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 At least Wotte has predigree - cannot understand why the Feyenord DoF is sitting below a man who effectively managed at Blue Sq level? Maybe we should do some research into his past before we start saying he has some pedigree!!!!!!! We know what happened the last time we took it on face value with regards a potential Dutch Coach!!!!!!!! This was from a Feyenoord Blog: After Van Marwijk went, most fans asked for Martin Jol (who was keen to come). But the club management thought Jol looked “too fat” to manage a top club (true story). And instead chose Gullit. Because Gullit is (was) cool, glib, popular, etc… Someone appointed former youth player Mark Wotte as technical director. Why? Nobody knows. Wotte was a mediocre coach at mediocre clubs. Didn’t have any management experience at all. Still, he was in charge of building a new Feyenoord, with Ruud Gullit. I don’t know how many players came from how many different countries, but at the end of the day, Wotte/Gullit failed. Miserably. Ebi Smolarek was told to leave (he went to Borussia Dortmund where he had a sensational season), Buffel was told to leave (he became a sensation at Glasgow Rangers) and many no-names came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Maybe we should do some research into his past before we start saying he has some pedigree!!!!!!! We know what happened the last time we took it on face value with regards a potential Dutch Coach!!!!!!!! This was from a Feyenoord Blog: After Van Marwijk went, most fans asked for Martin Jol (who was keen to come). But the club management thought Jol looked “too fat” to manage a top club (true story). And instead chose Gullit. Because Gullit is (was) cool, glib, popular, etc… Someone appointed former youth player Mark Wotte as technical director. Why? Nobody knows. Wotte was a mediocre coach at mediocre clubs. Didn’t have any management experience at all. Still, he was in charge of building a new Feyenoord, with Ruud Gullit. I don’t know how many players came from how many different countries, but at the end of the day, Wotte/Gullit failed. Miserably. Ebi Smolarek was told to leave (he went to Borussia Dortmund where he had a sensational season), Buffel was told to leave (he became a sensation at Glasgow Rangers) and many no-names came. Ha ha - so Rupert has bought the Emporer's new clothes. Well done ruddy cheeks - guess what? We're fecking naked!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Oh, yeah, me too, to be honest, although I had a pleasant flicker of 'actually, it might just work' directly after we beat Brum at home. We've prevaricated for about four games too many already, and have lost a big opportunity in letting Davies go to Forest. Rupert is fiddling while Saints burn. I think a lot of us felt rather that way. I certainly did. A temporary triumph of hope over expectation I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 I think a lot of us felt rather that way. I certainly did. A temporary triumph of hope over expectation I guess. I think the players at that time had belief, confidence and energy. As time has gone on, this has drained away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 I think the players at that time had belief, confidence and energy. As time has gone on, this has drained away. Yes, looks very much that way. I guess that being constantly out-muscled and bullied out of games - and I've seen a few matches when that's been very much the case - takes its toll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 He thinks we put up a fight!? Pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExSt Peter Saint Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 He has no clue at all - get rid now!!! His comments have been laughable for months now and the football has been total ****e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 Poortvliet has turned Saints into a team loved by most others. They entertain the supporters of every club with our 'passing', and then give them the 3 points as well!!! To most Championship teams who dont follow us week in week out, they all think we should be higher up... but none of them have watched long enough to realise, we dont score goals!!! we have to own goals!!! I can't believe Poortvliet hasnt spotted this and at least changed tactics to give us more of a chance of doing what you need to do in a game of football. PUTTING IT IN THE NET. Jan out, Iain Dowie Geraint Williams or Mark Hughes (i know impossible but we can dream) in!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 Poortvliet is turning out to be an even worse choice than that other success story of Ru**rt: Wigley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 The man is an first class idiot... So far out of his depth it`s incredible... He should have been sacked ages ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Saint Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 I thought his reaction on Setatna was a bit embarrasing. Blamed the ref all the way through. Nice as he might be, he has to go. We can't defend, we can't score goals. What do we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 Alex Ferguson's post match comments are more telling IMHO.... "They're a very young side so you'd expect us to win. You don't want to humilate them because they have a tough programme ahead to survive in the championship". To me that reads that he actually instructed his players (overtly or otherwise) to take it easy on us. Puts a slighty different angle on 'only' losing 3 nil.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 Alex Ferguson's post match comments are more telling IMHO.... "They're a very young side so you'd expect us to win. You don't want to humilate them because they have a tough programme ahead to survive in the championship". To me that reads that he actually instructed his players (overtly or otherwise) to take it easy on us. Puts a slighty different angle on 'only' losing 3 nil.... Rupert and his clueless dutch clowns are ensuring they are humiliated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiansaint Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 Having not seen any game, this is by no way meant to defend JP, his tactics or man management skills, but a thought occurred to me: to what extent was he aware of what he was in for? I mean, we he was hired he might have been told he'd have to work on a tight budget, but with a squad comprising a relative mix of experienced players and homegrown youngsters, which per se is not a totally bad idea and he might have developed an idea of how he wanted the side to play. Instead, most of the experienced players have been loaned out/sold (not mentioning the Killer case) and even more nippers have been brought in, which is a totally different basis to work on and he now finds himself in a situation where he has to defend and try to protect unexperienced and, from what I read on here, largely un-CCC-worthy boys probably incapable as yet to put into practice what he initially had in mind. Many a manager would feel uncomfortable with this, I think. So once again I'm not discussing his (in)abilities or the fact he's clueless and out his depth, but I wonder to what extent he was fully and honestly informed about the situation he would have to face and the squad he'd have to make do with. Which brings us back to arrogant Rupert "Know-it-all" Lowe and the way he is orchestrating the downfall of Southampton Football Club with an ego probably as inflated as any pornstar tits. That JP and his players lack experience at this level is there for all to see, they make unbelievable mistakes but in the end the buck has to stop with Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 JP is a ****ing idiot. I realise that this is not a constructive statement.... but he is a ****ing idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 Alex Ferguson's post match comments are more telling IMHO.... "They're a very young side so you'd expect us to win. You don't want to humilate them because they have a tough programme ahead to survive in the championship". To me that reads that he actually instructed his players (overtly or otherwise) to take it easy on us. Puts a slighty different angle on 'only' losing 3 nil.... I'm sure it's what most of us fully expected, it's exactly what I expected. United had no axe to grind, we are nothing to them, they just wanted the job to be done and then to get out. 3-0 was a perfect score - give us a good thumping without totally humiliating us. Men vs boys I'm afraid. I don't blame the players or even the manager as they are trying, albeit ineffectively. No, the neutering of a once competitive SFC lies firmly at the feet of Lowe and his doomed vision. As for JPs views, they made me squirm. The red card was totally justified as it was potentially a leg breaking challenge. As for the pen I thought it was debateable. However if you are stupid enough to raise your arm in the penalty area when the ball hits you then you are asking for trouble, hopefully a lesson learnt. Oh well, back to the championship we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 It has been a shambles from the pre season. Lowe is the problem from the first day he obtained his shares for nothing. Is that clever or Askham and his Lavender Hill Mob with the safe keys? As far as JP goes, I am really without caring anymore. But for posters to suggest Wottey, God help us please. NO not you Rupert the real one who is going to help us soon, I hope. Saints, what has Lowey done to us....Wildey plse behave and do the right thing , now...Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 (edited) Alex Ferguson's post match comments are more telling IMHO.... "They're a very young side so you'd expect us to win. You don't want to humilate them because they have a tough programme ahead to survive in the championship". To me that reads that he actually instructed his players (overtly or otherwise) to take it easy on us. Puts a slighty different angle on 'only' losing 3 nil.... That is the best summary of Man Utd's game I have read anywhere - and it comes straight from Fergie. He is absolutely right. Berbatov couldnt have strolled around anymore than he did. I swear that Man Utd started upping the pace when Rooney came on as they were getting a bit chilly. There is an important lesson for Saints fans here. We watch OUR team too much and fail to watch what the opposition are doing. I have watched teams in the CCC ease up against us for weeks once they thought they had us in the bag and the only team it backfired on was Preston. Watch the opposition. We are being treated like the kids we are. We are a team for the taking of an easy 3 points in the CCC - let alone by Man Utd in the FA Cup. Edited 5 January, 2009 by SaintRobbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 I thought his reaction on Setatna was a bit embarrasing. Blamed the ref all the way through. Nice as he might be, he has to go. We can't defend, we can't score goals. What do we do? Yet Kelvin Davies disagreed with JP over the handball! You cant make it up. The Capt saying one thing the coach another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 I thought Skacel was in my top three as well. . . . . with fourth place a long, long way behind. Think both sides looked as if they thought three nil was enough and stopped there. Man Utd went for our weak(er) side more, and Rudi had less to do, there were a couple of second half occasions however where he just stopped in his tracks as if to say "I'm really not that bothered" ...perhaps he was instructed to stay back more, but that seems unlikely with his attacking instincts, unless Jan has sussed by now that Rudi cant run for a whole game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 "The positive is that the boys never gave up and fought till the end. That was what they had to do and next week they start again and fight to stay in the league." Think he was watching a different game to the rest of us. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=11176 The OS 'mysteriously' omits this Poortvliet quote: "Arsene Wenger has said United always get the 50-50 decisions and I agree. Alex stood up once to have a word and after that everything went their way" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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