DT Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Beyond Rupert's ego, anyone know? His record is abysmal - has any other manager survived for as long with so bad a record? And can we really not afford to pay him off? And can he have so little honour? Answers on a postcard please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Lowe doesn't want to admit failure I think. Not sure we needed a new thread on this though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 January, 2009 He sort of admitted failure with Wigley - eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Lowe doesn't want to admit failure I think. Not sure we needed a new thread on this though. I agree but also this is a long term stategy we are doing much worse than I thought we would. If we were in the Position now that we were after the away Reading game I would have thought that to be OK but it is the game v Nottm Forest and the late goal conceded against Reading recently which have caused our problems an extra three or five points from those two games would have helped the situation greatly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Unbelievable isn`t it.... The man is spectacularly incompetent,way, way out of his depth.. Get rid of all 3 of the clueless dutch now. But Rupert said to me "we are playing some fantastic football" Really? We are playing utter tripe...FFS It`s time the idiots and yes men on the board woke up to the fact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 That's like saying if we hadn't of conceded 2 goals in injury time v Boro, or a last kick equaliser v Everton, we wouldn't have been relegated. Unforetunately those things happened. Forest completely outplayed us and it still wasn't enough to save their manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 January, 2009 This is probably the trouble - there is so much apathy out there that things won't change. I'm amazed people aren't as angry as I am at the ineptitude of the decisions coming out of the club. Yeah, we don't need another thread to try and get some sort of rallying out there - but we can vote for the best left back Saints ever had - when we were solvent. Yawn. Still living on that Stokes moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Jan Portsmuff -hilarious, how do you think this stuff up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 i dont expect lowe thought it would pan out like it has and he may be forced to admit defeat,but i really think he is in it for the long term regardless of where it takes us. the most important thing to lowe is playing the youngsters,jan is willing to do that as he hasnt got a reputation to ruin but the majority of the decent managers out there would not do it,they couldnt do it so this is the reason why he will soldier on with jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Jan Portsmuff -hilarious, how do you think this stuff up? I preferred the Port Vale one...i ruptured something laughing at that one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 January, 2009 I rest my case. Apathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Jan Portsmuff -hilarious, how do you think this stuff up? Yeah, made me fall about too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 I rest my case. Apathetic. Apathy at the same f::cking thread being started day after day? Well yes... Only thing worth really commenting on your pathetic nickname? Even more yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 What do you mean, 'why haven't we sacked him yet', it's not our decision I'm afraid. He doesn't have the best resources to work with but we should be doing a lot better than we are. At the very least we should be organised, disciplined and fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Zzzzzzzzz every time. Shouldn't a results record make some consideration of the resources available? Toughest job in the league easily. Crap squad getting worse, constant change with loans, no money to spend, no wages to offer and an obvious relegation fight from the start. Yet poor results surprise you? I don't believe most of you are that stupid. Utterly ridiculous to make such a damning assessment of Jan when we know nothing about how he'd perform with any resources. Not that you'd know that much any anyone after 6 months. Doesn't help that Lowe picked him, the fans bitterness means even less time for a manager. But I seriously doubt anyone else could do much better with our resources. Look at our club right now, the squad, the finances, we SHOULD be fighting relegation and that's exactly what's happening. Just so sick of the brainless drivel about management change being the key to all success and no-one ever getting a chance. Seems you have to have won promotion spending nothing and be an instant success just to get given a bit of time. If he'd spent 10m I'd be having a go at him too, but even that would be harsh after 6 months. So winning 1 game at home playing the same formation when it clearly doesnt work is OK with you? Bringing on 5ft 4 midgets in the last 10 minutes against a team hoof balling it forward is Ok? Keeping the same formation when 0-0 and not looking like scoring a goal in weeks is fine with you and not making a sub? Leaving struggling players on when clearly knackered and leaving experienced pros on the bench is fine and waiting until the other team equalises is good for you? There is only one person talking brainless drivel here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Zzzzzzzzz every time. Shouldn't a results record make some consideration of the resources available? Toughest job in the league easily. Crap squad getting worse, constant change with loans, no money to spend, no wages to offer and an obvious relegation fight from the start. Yet poor results surprise you? I don't believe most of you are that stupid. Utterly ridiculous to make such a damning assessment of Jan when we know nothing about how he'd perform with any resources. Not that you'd know that much any anyone after 6 months. Doesn't help that Lowe picked him, the fans bitterness means even less time for a manager. But I seriously doubt anyone else could do much better with our resources. Look at our club right now, the squad, the finances, we SHOULD be fighting relegation and that's exactly what's happening. Just so sick of the brainless drivel about management change being the key to all success and no-one ever getting a chance. Seems you have to have won promotion spending nothing and be an instant success just to get given a bit of time. If he'd spent 10m I'd be having a go at him too, but even that would be harsh after 6 months. I could not agree with you more! I am by no means happy with our league position, but I really do not believe we would be in a better position with a different man in charge! He has the hardest job in the entire league (why can't people see that?) and the poorest group of players to choose from in the league (without doubt!) It's easy for people to be critical on here with hindsight after games, and we all think we could make a better manager and do a better job! But in reality, I thing given the whole situation the club is in, we are doing well to be in touching distance of safety! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron fan Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Zzzzzzzzz every time. Shouldn't a results record make some consideration of the resources available? Toughest job in the league easily. Crap squad getting worse, constant change with loans, no money to spend, no wages to offer and an obvious relegation fight from the start. Yet poor results surprise you? I don't believe most of you are that stupid. Utterly ridiculous to make such a damning assessment of Jan when we know nothing about how he'd perform with any resources. Not that you'd know that much any anyone after 6 months. Doesn't help that Lowe picked him, the fans bitterness means even less time for a manager. But I seriously doubt anyone else could do much better with our resources. Look at our club right now, the squad, the finances, we SHOULD be fighting relegation and that's exactly what's happening. Just so sick of the brainless drivel about management change being the key to all success and no-one ever getting a chance. Seems you have to have won promotion spending nothing and be an instant success just to get given a bit of time. If he'd spent 10m I'd be having a go at him too, but even that would be harsh after 6 months. No it's not. He's 53 and a former World Cup finalist FFS!! If he was any good as a coach plenty of clubs with more resources than us would have been offering him work over the last 20 years. What we have seen over the last 6 months has just confirmed what his previous coaching record indicated - this job, even with our limited resources, is far above his capabilities. However, if the (very good) coach of my lad's U9 team needed more assistance, I'm sure Jan would be excellent in that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Have to say, I have been pretty consistent over the years of posting on here in demanding managers be given time and a chance. I even supported Burley & Redknapp right until it became obvious they didnt want to be here. But JP? No chance. HAS to go I'm afraid. Any unemplyed British manager would stand more chance of building a winning team that might flook survival above this chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Jan is Ruperts man, hence Jan is the man! Rupert Lowe on BB right now? Big Ego that would really show the public what a Big Ego is like! I've heard from a reliable source (hoisin) that RL is taking that picture of a train down and replacing it with 3 flying ducks (ala Hilda Ogden)! The **** shows no respect to us fans. Jan is a clown and Rupert is the ringmaster...SMS is the big top, bring on Stockport! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Apathy at the same f::cking thread being started day after day? Well yes... Only thing worth really commenting on your pathetic nickname? Even more yes... 'snooker balls up champion' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Yeah he's been here for all of six months. That's a lifetime. Sighingrollyeyesthingy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Yeah he's been here for all of six months. That's a lifetime. Sighingrollyeyesthingy. It certainly feels like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/West Saint Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Where are we in the league in comparison to this time last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icehagman Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 With the players we have at the moment, I don´t even think Jose Mourinho would get any results... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 'snooker balls up champion' Indeed. Not that i wrote that thinking it was funny. Merely me exploring the other sides of the forum. Go on admit it...calling Poortvliet "Portsmuff" is about as funny as catching your nice new cashmere sweater on a loose nail isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 January, 2009 It's about as funny as your avatar, which I find most jaunty. Good luck with the rest of your 'exploring'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Some Lowey Luvvies criticise a new fred as boring yawn etc and then keep the fred going..Must be plants to keep the forum rolling. Oh! .hit, just seen what I have done....Must be a Lowey Pixie or a luvver of interesting freds. Back to the medication, what have Saints done to me again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 It's about as funny as your avatar, which I find most jaunty. Good luck with the rest of your 'exploring'. You obviously don't understand the reasoning for my avatar... Portsmuff...ah dear me...brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 You obviously don't understand the reasoning for my avatar... Portsmuff...ah dear me...brilliant Scudey is your avatar a picture on Loweys wall or have I got that mixed up with the train.....Teddy Bears something to do with Rupert when he first went to Public School...Noone accept one liked him and gave him a little bear to share. Or have I got that wrong Scudey Happy New Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Airplane, Police Squad, The Naked Gun Trilogy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 The bear is Rupert, from Family Guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 January, 2009 He really loves comedies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Some Lowey Luvvies criticise a new fred as boring yawn etc and then keep the fred going..Must be plants to keep the forum rolling. Oh! .hit, just seen what I have done....Must be a Lowey Pixie or a luvver of interesting freds. Back to the medication, what have Saints done to me again. It's boring attention seeking and hoping that his new "genius" nickname will catch on. If the point of the original post was all that counted it could have quite easily have gone on this thread... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=7648 Hopefully when someone else uses it DT will be able to say "hey...i made that nickname up" and they will both laugh at how amazingly funny it is...DT may even p:ss himself...which will soak into the biscuit crumbs littering his tracksuit bottoms and create a right old mess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Wasn't there a bear called........Andy Pandy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 It's boring attention seeking and hoping that his new "genius" nickname will catch on. If the point of the original post was all that counted it could have quite easily have gone on this thread... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=7648 Hopefully when someone else uses it DT will be able to say "hey...i made that nickname up" and they will both laugh at how amazingly funny it is...DT may even p:ss himself...which will soak into the biscuit crumbs littering his tracksuit bottoms and create a right old mess... You need some of my medication Scudey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 January, 2009 It's boring attention seeking and hoping that his new "genius" nickname will catch on. If the point of the original post was all that counted it could have quite easily have gone on this thread... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=7648 Hopefully when someone else uses it DT will be able to say "hey...i made that nickname up" and they will both laugh at how amazingly funny it is...DT may even p:ss himself...which will soak into the biscuit crumbs littering his tracksuit bottoms and create a right old mess... What a hilarious picture you have conjured up. Was it from Naked Gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Airplane, Police Squad, The Naked Gun Trilogy Stalking me? The bear is Rupert, from Family Guy. This is true. The bear is Rupert from Family Guy. Property of Stewie Griffin. It is often hinted at that Rupert is a bit of a big ghey bear. He really loves comedies! And yet i don't find your "joke" funny. Says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Zzzzzzzzz every time. Shouldn't a results record make some consideration of the resources available? Toughest job in the league easily. Crap squad getting worse, constant change with loans, no money to spend, no wages to offer and an obvious relegation fight from the start. Yet poor results surprise you? I don't believe most of you are that stupid. Utterly ridiculous to make such a damning assessment of Jan when we know nothing about how he'd perform with any resources. Not that you'd know that much any anyone after 6 months. Doesn't help that Lowe picked him, the fans bitterness means even less time for a manager. But I seriously doubt anyone else could do much better with our resources. Look at our club right now, the squad, the finances, we SHOULD be fighting relegation and that's exactly what's happening. Just so sick of the brainless drivel about management change being the key to all success and no-one ever getting a chance. Seems you have to have won promotion spending nothing and be an instant success just to get given a bit of time. If he'd spent 10m I'd be having a go at him too, but even that would be harsh after 6 months. So to sum up, your view is that everyone should just be quiet, cross their fingers and pray we stay up, because there is nothing else to do other than just hope? I've made this observation before: many people supported the appointment of SCW "because he had a winner's mentality". THEREFORE they supported his appointment in the belief that his mentality brought something else to the club that wasn't already there. THEREFORE without changing the playing staff, they believed that a change in psychology and approach can bring improvement in results. THEREFORE if you accept the above statements are true, you must see that your original post is nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 If he wasn`t such a one trick pony we may give the guy a break but he persists with same set up/style/tactics despite its continual failing week on week. He has no idea at all what needs to be done to at least survive in the CCC and i fear when we drop into league one he will be equally inept. He simply has to go and quick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 January, 2009 So to sum up, your view is that everyone should just be quiet, cross their fingers and pray we stay up, because there is nothing else to do other than just hope? I've made this observation before: many people supported the appointment of SCW "because he had a winner's mentality". THEREFORE they supported his appointment in the belief that his mentality brought something else to the club that wasn't already there. THEREFORE without changing the playing staff, they believed that a change in psychology and approach can bring improvement in results. THEREFORE if you accept the above statements are true, you must see that your original post is nonsense? I'm with you HLMG. The sad thing is that there is still time to do something. Some of us believe that that something was to sack JP (I have avoided using the unfunny nickname because I have been told off) and appoint, say, Billy Davies. Sure, we don't know the money side of things - we might be unable to afford this and Lowe is in charge of the pursestrings, but I personally had hoped that a way round this might have been that JP might have recognised his failings, that the job was way too much for him, and fall on his sword. A bit like Paul Jewell. That way it wouldn't cost us as much. But it looks like not enough people give a monkey's and we're on the inevitable slide to League One or administration. A massive shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 What a hilarious picture you have conjured up. Was it from Naked Gun? Christ your dull. However i will end this here (i say that because i don't think you have enough in the locker to make me bother replying again) by suggesting that if i met anyone who didn't find Airplane, Police Squad or The Naked Gun Trilogy i'd probably suggest they have somewhat of a personality bypass. Or a desire to suck all joy out of life. Which would fit very nicely with your general posting style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Looks like you missed out 'funny'. Not for the first time. Or did you just mean find? Even rubbish explorers could manage that. Bye, then. Shall we get back to JP now then, anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Calling JP...Portsmuff is a bit like calling Rupert... Lowey or Michael...Wildey. Who does this sort of juvenile thing.....Not me. What do you think Scudey.....You, Nickey and freinds( Lowey by chance) do not like posters having a little fun. Portsmuff out.. NOW before its too late and of course Lowey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Zzzzzzzzz every time. Shouldn't a results record make some consideration of the resources available? Toughest job in the league easily. Crap squad getting worse, constant change with loans, no money to spend, no wages to offer and an obvious relegation fight from the start. Yet poor results surprise you? I don't believe most of you are that stupid. Utterly ridiculous to make such a damning assessment of Jan when we know nothing about how he'd perform with any resources. Not that you'd know that much any anyone after 6 months. Doesn't help that Lowe picked him, the fans bitterness means even less time for a manager. But I seriously doubt anyone else could do much better with our resources. Look at our club right now, the squad, the finances, we SHOULD be fighting relegation and that's exactly what's happening. Just so sick of the brainless drivel about management change being the key to all success and no-one ever getting a chance. Seems you have to have won promotion spending nothing and be an instant success just to get given a bit of time. If he'd spent 10m I'd be having a go at him too, but even that would be harsh after 6 months. sorry i dont agree,i think we all expected to struggle with what we have (manager and players) but not to the degree that we are seeing week in,week out. our goal this season should have been survival,treading water hoping that things will change for the better,anything else being a bonus, but we are not treading water,we are sinking and nobody at the club has hit the alarm button. a new manager could put some fire back in the belly of the players and the fans,it might not be the long term solution but it could just be enough to save our championship status. it is harsh to get rid of a manager after only a few months and it might be very short sighted but something has to be done very quickly otherwise we are going to run out of games to gain enough points.it isnt working out for jan,in another time it might have worked but we havnt got the luxury of time.we cant afford to have an inexperienced manager learning his trade/the english game on our time im afraid. survival should be a realistic goal with the resources we have shouldnt it? if not then i could do just as good a job as jan,i could take us down to L1 and as the club are so keen to save money then i would do it for half the money jan is on...........cant say fairer than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 (edited) Where are we in the league in comparison to this time last year? At 17:00 on Jan 1st 2008 we were 15th with 33 points from 26 games, 5 home wins and 3 home draws; on 12th Jan 2008 we were 13th with 36 points from 27 games with 6 home wins, and a total of 36 goals scored and 44 conceded. Burley out !!! To put this in some context, this was the middle of a run of form from 15 December to 19 Feb ( when NP was appointed ) that saw us play 12 matches and take 8 points, winning only once ( S****horpe @ SMS ), scoring 11 and conceding 19. After NP took charge, we drew the next 4 games then beat Leicester @ SMS, ( discounting the Plymouth match on 19th Feb ). Edited 6 January, 2009 by badgerx16 Added the bits in blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 The worrying thing is, the longer the youngsters work with him, the worse they seem to get. I can not think of one outfield player, whose got better as the season's gone on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 The worrying thing is, the longer the youngsters work with him, the worse they seem to get. I can not think of one outfield player, whose got better as the season's gone on. Pulis has come on leaps and bounds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 The worrying thing is, the longer the youngsters work with him, the worse they seem to get. I can not think of one outfield player, whose got better as the season's gone on. Saga has become Jesus Christ never mind got better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 6 January, 2009 Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Beyond Rupert's ego, anyone know? His record is abysmal - has any other manager survived for as long with so bad a record? And can we really not afford to pay him off? And can he have so little honour? Answers on a postcard please... "They're also prepared to come on favorable terms financially and contracts which are geared up to success rather than inflated salaries." said Mike Wilde (talking about Wotte and JP). The worse we get the less they cost us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 January, 2009 Can this episode in our history get any worse? Administration, I suppose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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