modern matron Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 After 37 years watching with my dad and 2 sons I fear that I watched my club die today and have never felt so low.....even both relegation years were not this bad A manager with no idea what to do. Whose tactics are so bad, misuse of subs, the awful, boring, pointless, no end product, so called "pretty" football that is driving me mad! 3 at the back with one centre back???? No idea how to hit it into the box early and put defenders under pressure, players who cannot tackle and have no physical presence......... Fans who don't turn up and when they do they fight amongst themselves, make little noise..... A Chairman who is so ARROGANT and condescending and is on some weird Dutch crusade that he wont admit is failing............and finances that should never have reached this state... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I can honestly say i've never felt this bad before. And with Lowes arrogance standing in the way, I can't see any way for it to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Believe me, it won't be a patch on how bad it's going to feel if there is not a change in Board and direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Even the Branfoot era wasnt this bad then at least the fans stuck together. Not sure what can be done to ressurect our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 It may be your lowest ebb, and I sympathise. I am wondering how I will feel when administration happens ? Lower and worried ? Happier and relieved ? Ambivalent ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Lowe wasn't in the stadium. Can we add 'GUTLESS' to the description of our great failure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 even the branfoot era wasnt this bad then at least the fans stuck together. Not sure what can be done to ressurect our club. Sell the Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Sell the Club. Have to find a buyer first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 First of all the supporters must unite and have a common objective...no matter if it is to remove Lowe/ Wilde/ Jan , once we unite then we get taken seriously, until then Lowe plays one off against the other. Lowe supporters must accept that he is damaging the club, he must be made to go either quietly or dragged kicking and screaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 It certainly is my lowest watching Saints for 35 years. My worry is that it will get worse before it gets better & that ***t Lowe does not give a flying fu(k about it. His shares were bought from income derived relegating us once before & he is going to be responsible once again! What a complete arrogant to$$er he is with absolutely no integrity whatsoever. Even friends I have at WH Ireland say he is just a patsy for the real business managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Have to find a buyer first. And that my friend is what I have been trying to get people to do for 2 years now. CAN WE PLEASE GO AND FIND ONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Our club is ****ed from top to bottom. Rupert Lowe is a money grubbing arrogant little *****. He has no idea. His choice of manager is an honourable man, no doubt, but I'm afraid that he is not up to the task of leading the Saints. It really hurts me to have to say it, because I hate to talk down an incumbent manager, but we need a change. If Tosser Lowe has even an ounce of decency in his greed-ridden body then he will do the right thing and relieve Mr Poortvliet of his duties and replace him with a manager who knows the league. Of course to do so the ***t that is Rupert Lowe will have to acknowledge that he has made a mistake in appointing JP in the first place. And when did Lowe ever admit he was wrong?? It is not in his arrogant ways. If we had retained the services of a Mr Nigel Pearson we would not be in this mess. Even with the same squad, under NP's control we would be mid table at worst. Another ****ing arrogant self-indulgent decision by Lowe. He didn't appoint NP so he gets rid of him. LOWE IS A ****ING PARASITE ON THE FLESH OF THIS CLUB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Have to admit, I've never felt this concerned/gutted/low about Saints in my life. Like I said in another post, our problems go much deeper than the 11 players on the pitch. Seeing fans fighting amongst themselves really hit home today and made me realise how much of a division Lowe creates at our club. I fear for our future big time, but unfortunately I can't see anything changing. Where are we meant to go from here as a club? It's a question I have no answer to, other than down towards League 1. Bad times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 In over 50 years of supporting this once great club, I thought that the Br**foot era was the lowest ebb, but sadly, this is much worse! The saddest thing is that after all of this time I have actually got to a stage that I couldn`t imagine that I would ever reach. I DON`T CARE ANY MORE! I really have, after all these years, had the stuffing knocked out of me one too many times. RIP SFC. Thanks for the memories.:mad::mad::mad::mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 The lowest point I felt until recently was during our first season after relegation in 1974.Around new year we lost 1-0 at home to bottom club Sheffield Wednesday. It really was one of the most dire performances I had witnessed.Wednesday scored after something like 90 seconds with a pathetic tap in.We were abysmal and hardly threatened for the remaining 89 minutes. The difference now, I suppose on reflection, is that at least I was at The Dell for that match and did not hesitate to return to support my club.Infact I would not even have contemplated not going to the next match.Now though,I really don't know when I will again go back to St Marys again.My kids are Saints fans and believe it will change;the glory days will be all the more sweeter after this period of suffering,but will it be in my lifetime ?I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I felt worse when I split with the missus a year ago. It's just football to me now, and that I feel is the worst thing of all, I get no feeling from Saints now win lose or draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 In over 50 years of supporting this once great club, I thought that the Br**foot era was the lowest ebb, but sadly, this is much worse! The saddest thing is that after all of this time I have actually got to a stage that I couldn`t imagine that I would ever reach. I DON`T CARE ANY MORE! I really have, after all these years, had the stuffing knocked out of me one too many times. RIP SFC. Thanks for the memories.:mad::mad::mad::mad: I care,but I feel almost numb to it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 After 37 years watching with my dad and 2 sons I fear that I watched my club die today and have never felt so low.....even both relegation years were not this bad A manager with no idea what to do. Whose tactics are so bad, misuse of subs, the awful, boring, pointless, no end product, so called "pretty" football that is driving me mad! 3 at the back with one centre back???? No idea how to hit it into the box early and put defenders under pressure, players who cannot tackle and have no physical presence......... Fans who don't turn up and when they do they fight amongst themselves, make little noise..... A Chairman who is so ARROGANT and condescending and is on some weird Dutch crusade that he wont admit is failing............and finances that should never have reached this state... In 2003 my mum was diagnosed with breast cancer. In 2006 my Aunt died of cancer of the bone. In 2007 my sister in law was diagnoes as being terminal with cancer. In 2008 my Dad was diagnosed with Prostate cancer. So, to answer your question....I have felt lower. This is a game. This is not your life....and if it is, you need to re-evaluate your life. We will go down this season. So what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonRichards Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Branfoot era, loosing 4-1 to P*mpey and relegation left me feeling very low. But today has left me numb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I care,but I feel almost numb to it now. I care. I don't care which division we play in, and it will almost certainly be div 3 next season. I care about Southampton. I care about engaging local youngsters to take up a sport. I care about community. I care that the founders of our football club and what they must be thinking from their graves about the current greed-ridden PLC setup. I care that St Mary's Young Men's Association Football Club survives. And that all the values which were critical to our club's founding - community, solidarity, respect and team-spirit, triumph over corporate greed and personal arrogance. That is what I care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 The Branfoot era was about staying in the top league, something we achieved. We look like going into Div 1. However, I felt worse when we appointed a League 1 novice over a successful ex saint and england manager. I knew that we would be in trouble from that day onwards and my fears have been proved right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 The Branfoot era was about staying in the top league, something we achieved. We look like going into Div 1. However, I felt worse when we appointed a League 1 novice over a successful ex saint and england manager. I knew that we would be in trouble from that day onwards and my fears have been proved right. Give it a rest. It was the sacking/"mutual consenting" to Luggy's departure that was "trouble from that day onwards",not his appointment. If you care to remember we actually won away from home in some style under Sturrock at Wolves and Man City. FWIW,with the benefit of hindsight I agree with you that Hoddle might have been a better choice,but even excluding GH,there was no reasom why an alternative could not have succeeded,if given the correct backing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubsaint Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 After 37 years watching with my dad and 2 sons I fear that I watched my club die today and have never felt so low.....even both relegation years were not this bad A manager with no idea what to do. Whose tactics are so bad, misuse of subs, the awful, boring, pointless, no end product, so called "pretty" football that is driving me mad! 3 at the back with one centre back???? No idea how to hit it into the box early and put defenders under pressure, players who cannot tackle and have no physical presence......... Fans who don't turn up and when they do they fight amongst themselves, make little noise..... A Chairman who is so ARROGANT and condescending and is on some weird Dutch crusade that he wont admit is failing............and finances that should never have reached this state... NO, i feel sh1t but not shocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Even the Branfoot era wasnt this bad then at least the fans stuck together. This is the lowest in 34 years of following Saints, As for sticking together, well I think today was the final straw. Have Saints fans got any balls, or will we all sit back and accept this ******xx??? At any other club, this manager and chairman would be run out of town. The heat should be turned up, but who's up for it?? IMHO no fcker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 (edited) It certainly is my lowest watching Saints for 35 years. My worry is that it will get worse before it gets better & that ***t Lowe does not give a flying fu(k about it. His shares were bought from income derived relegating us once before & he is going to be responsible once again! What a complete arrogant to$$er he is with absolutely no integrity whatsoever. Even friends I have at WH Ireland say he is just a patsy for the real business managers. I actually believe st stevo's transfer gossip more than i believe that you have friends that work at WH Ireland Edited 18 January, 2009 by Scudamore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 I actually believe st stevo's transfer gossip more than i believe that you have friends that work at WH Ireland http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?capId=9301027 326 employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 i thought Fratton in the relegation season was my low point in 48 years of support and probably still is because of the utter humilation of being locked in and having to lesten to the skates. Yesterday just left me numb and the worst thing is that from Fratton to yesterday i have basically stopped caring. i accept the money issue but employing a guy who has no idea is just a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 The Roll Call of Shame - A) Doncaster, Notts Forest, Wolves, Bristol C, Watford. Blackpool and Birmingham. B) Ipswich, Barnsley, Coventry, Plymouth, Sheff Wed and Reading. Never ever ever in my 43 years of following the club have we had such a **** poor home record, especially (with only a couple of exceptions) against a bunch of very ordinary run of the mill 2nd rate teams :mad: Not even the most fervent Skate would have dared to predict us getting 0 pts from those teams in Group A or not beat a single team in Group B :smt012 The failure to even score in nearly half our home games and we still persevere with the same system :cool:. Even just scrappy draws against our rivals Donny, Forest, Watford and Blackpool would have seen us in 18th spot, above all 4 of those teams.:confused: Take away the 2 games against us at SMS and between them Donny and Watford have only won 2 games out of their other 26 away fixtures :smt044 Even in our 1st relegation season from The 1st division (and even for that matter our last relegation to a lesser degree) you'd turn up at home for a game against any of the top teams genuinely beleiving we could get something out of the game, now a draw against Swansea would be a nice surprise As if what is going on on the pitch isn't bad enough, it's what is happening off the pitch that has really shocked me to the core :smt010. False economies of loaning out the whole forward line to save money, which in turn loses up to 10000 fans per home game. The backroom antics and managerial choices over the last few years have seen our club become a thing of ridicule where as before we were a shining example of how a small club could be well run. Petty mindedness point winning such as The Picture Saga or further back not acknowledging Lawries existence by naming any of the Corperate Areas after him etc etc. Even this weeks treatment of Dave Armstrong, presumably for his criticism of the way things are going at the moment further sullies the name of the club. In the past, no matter how bad things seemed, there was always belief (hope ) that at least some of the players were good enough and all of them cared enough and had the backing of the fans to ensure that The Spirit of Southampton shone through, but today all of that is missing and even if we somehow manage to stave off relegation with a last minute win at Forest on the last day of the season it will not be a time for celebration like last years Sheff U win was. Just when it looked like we had turned a corner and our troubles were behind us and positive vibes were once again present ..... whoooooosssshhhh The EGO has landed and sent us spiralling into a seemingly endless tail spin. So in a word "NO" I have never felt so low about the situation regarding Southampton Football Club and as someone else said, it doesn't so much hurt now, more a terrible numbness, and anger that I now dread Saturdays coming up rather than it be the highloight of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGF Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 This might make things go even lower if true. HOTLINE - Ranger Davis Qpr are making a move to sign Southampton keeper Kelvin Davis - and a £200,000 deal is in the pipeline. His contract at St Mary's is running out, and Davis (left) won't be offered a new one by the hard-up Saints. But QPR coach Paulo Sousa fancies the experienced 32-year-old. http://www.people.co.uk/sport/football/tm_headline=hotline-ranger-davis%26method=full%26objectid=21050902%26siteid=93463-name_page.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 It's gonna get worse unless we do something about it, for me this season's already over, I was one who says to sing anti lowe songs after the match, but then by that time Lowe's in his comfy Directors Suite supping on his whatever he drinks while we're outside freezing chanting at him, nah not anymore. T'was a shame Lowe was in Scotland yesterday, I reckon if he saw yesterday's ugly scenes he'd bit a lot more worried than he is now, but what do I know......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/West Saint Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Never felt this bad in 39years of supporting Saints. Someone please help us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alki_in_korea Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 this is the worst i have felt in 25 years following the saints. It was bad enough going to every game and watching us lose but it is so much harder watching it when on tv n looking crap and listening to the radio and sounding ****e. It was a hard choice t give up my season ticket and move to korea and it gets worse every day as now i get taken the **** out of 12 year old koreans who have seen the few saints games on korean tv n find it funny i still tell them we are a good team.I have tried to tell kids here we are a great team who are just on a bad run but noone believes me. I fear are club is dying and unless something is done i feel we will awalys be a joke to young children not just abroad but back home too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggaesaint Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 It is really distressing to see our one great club imploding and heading for League 1. It is incredible that Lowe wants to stay here and concerted efforts must now be made to remove him as chairman. Until he leaves, it will undermine any chance we have of attracting investment and a worthy manager to lead us back to becoming a well run club. His catalogue of errors and his pomposity and arrogance has turned him into a laughing stock with the media and all the fans. After all, he only owns 6% of the shares himself. Under the Companies Act, the shareholders can call for an EGM to be held and if we do this on a regular basis expressing a vote of no confidence, he will soon get sick of it. If 5 to 10,000 of us bought a few hundred pounds worth of shares aligned to the big holders such as Leon Crouch, it would really show Lowe and his cronies that the board needs to be replaced. I am sure that Lowe and Mr Invisible (Mike Wilde) would not want a repeat of the recent AGM on a regular basis. I just fear that he is so arrogant and such a snob that hostile chanting at the stadium has no impact on him. Although we all have challenges outside football when you are a lifelong fan as many of us are it is very hard to switch off when you love the team and want to see the same level of commitment from the players and the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhshifty Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Never mind feel him i'd like to kick him!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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