What Is Happening To Our Country?

[egg]

3 hours ago, revolution saint said:

How about they're undemocratic?  The idea that you can be born into the role of head of state regardless of ability or talent is laughable.  The Andrew that you describe as a complete idiot and an embarrassment was once second in line to the throne and could easily have ended up as King.  

He was, but unusually, I agree with Ralph. The Royal Family has more benefits than negatives for me, and the talk of binning it off because Andy is a wrong un is nonsense. 

[Sir Ralph]

1 minute ago, egg said:

He was, but unusually, I agree with Ralph. The Royal Family has more benefits than negatives for me, and the talk of binning it off because Andy is a wrong un is nonsense. 

Bloody hell we should frame this 🤣

[Farmer Saint]

3 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Not really though. Odd typo from a company I am working with - Veritas and this. You seem more intent on picking up minor comments from me rather than engaging in any point raised. Some would call this childish. You don’t like and I don’t like you but address substantive points

What, you don't think asking me to post a picture of my car is childish?

[Sir Ralph]

5 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

What, you don't think asking me to post a picture of my car is childish?

You will note that whenever I make a comment you attack it personally rather than engaging with the key point. Just now is a great example. Didn’t engage the point but attacked me. Look at the discussion with others just now, no abuse just different views. 

 

To my own shame I often then follow you down the childish route. If you just stick to the actual point being discussed rather than getting personal it would be better. Applies to both of us

Edited 2 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[revolution saint]

3 minutes ago, egg said:

He was, but unusually, I agree with Ralph. The Royal Family has more benefits than negatives for me, and the talk of binning it off because Andy is a wrong un is nonsense. 

That was just an illustration of the absurdity of the hereditary principle.  Andy being a wrong un hasn't affected my opinion of the monarchy in the slightest

[egg]

6 minutes ago, revolution saint said:

That was just an illustration of the absurdity of the hereditary principle.  Andy being a wrong un hasn't affected my opinion of the monarchy in the slightest

I get that, but you linked the two separate issues. For me, I don't see the fuss - the royal family don't have a negative impact on anyone, thus the hereditary principle doesn't impact them. It feels that people take a principled objection for the sake of it. 

[Gloucester Saint]

One positive, via @Farmer Saint I’ve discovered the Viz-like Rotherham Bugle.

Another funny from them

https://www.rotherhambugle.com/2023/01/22/barnsley-man-forced-to-abandon-car-on-smart-motorway-due-to-beer-fart/

[Farmer Saint]

15 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

You will note that whenever I make a comment you attack it personally rather than engaging with the key point. Just now is a great example. Didn’t engage the point but attacked me. Look at the discussion with others just now, no abuse just different views. 

 

To my own shame I often then follow you down the childish route. If you just stick to the actual point being discussed rather than getting personal it would be better. Applies to both of us

The problem is you come on here, extremely bolshy, with simplistic arguments. You say you went to Uni, but you don't check or cite your sources, verify or even read-through what you've written to ensure it makes sense. That's the basics you learn when doing University coursework. You don't answer questions that you know give your arguments issues. You tell multiple economics graduates that they know nothing about economics. You tell us we're not who we say we are. You make up people to back up your theories and then, when you get caught, you write "Have a good evening" or "Cheerio". 

So yeah, I will fucking pick you up for every mistake you make. It's damn easy, and it's plentiful.

[Farmer Saint]

Just now, Gloucester Saint said:

One positive, via @Farmer Saint I’ve discovered the Viz-like Rotherham Bugle.

Another funny from them

https://www.rotherhambugle.com/2023/01/22/barnsley-man-forced-to-abandon-car-on-smart-motorway-due-to-beer-fart/

It's like Southend News Network. It's great.

[Sir Ralph]

46 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

The problem is you come on here, extremely bolshy, with simplistic arguments. You say you went to Uni, but you don't check or cite your sources, verify or even read-through what you've written to ensure it makes sense. That's the basics you learn when doing University coursework. You don't answer questions that you know give your arguments issues. You tell multiple economics graduates that they know nothing about economics. You tell us we're not who we say we are. You make up people to back up your theories and then, when you get caught, you write "Have a good evening" or "Cheerio". 

So yeah, I will fucking pick you up for every mistake you make. It's damn easy, and it's plentiful.

You are entitled to your own opinion but I think you’re wrong on many counts and get angry when people disagree with you.  When you get abusive and childish I say “cheerio”. I quote multiple more sources and articles you ever have so that is complete rubbish. I don’t tend to make these accusations at other people, only you and for a reason.Best we ignore each others posts but I’ll let you have the last word….

Edited 1 hour ago by Sir Ralph

[sadoldgit]

4 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

I’m off the Switzerland to use Dignitas. Put me down now

We’ll chip in for your fare Ralph.

[Sir Ralph]

10 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

We’ll chip in for your fare Ralph.

Thanks

Edited 1 hour ago by Sir Ralph

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

[badgerx16]

2 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

This is your perspective and here-say though. At least I’ve put some evidence from parties with no apparent agenda. People normally take views based on evidence and advice. Having lived abroad in a country that loved the royals with Americans who also loved the royals my perspective is different to yours.

Do you think there would be more tourists in Paris, Vienna, Rome, and Berlin, if there were still Royal families there ?

[Colinjb]

7 minutes ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said:

"Happy Birthday to me......."

[The Kraken]

The driver has a complete look of “here we fucking go again, you daft cunt”.

[ChrisPY]

Arrest of the century.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

53 minutes ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said:

"Pizza express on the way home, Sir? It's no sweat"

The rodent look of someone for who being whisked away for a 12 hour birthday treat, wasn't what it used to be.

Considering all the like minded monsters he's met over the years, it would be nice if this was just the start, and he starts talking.

[Sir Ralph]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Do you think there would be more tourists in Paris, Vienna, Rome, and Berlin, if there were still Royal families there ?

Probably yes but I think you should factor in that those countries have lost their royal families and therefore the rarity of major royal families in existence makes the UK more attractive to tourists. It may not appeal to you but to countries with a lack of such heritage (eg the US, ozzies, Canadians, South Americans, etc) this is more appealing

Edited 11 minutes ago by Sir Ralph

[sadoldgit]

4 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

3 of the Queen's 4 children are divorced, I would say they are a typical family.

Apparently Phillip was a serial shagger (along with Mountbatten) as was Margaret. Her first husband was too. There were also rumours that Queen Liz had a bit on the side. As we know Andrew and Fergie both played away. Charles was an adulterer too and was heard to lament that it wasn’t fair that he forbears were allowed mistresses but his affair with Camilla was frowned upon.

There are rumours that William has a bit on the side too.

More like a typical soap opera family I would say.

[ChrisPY]

9 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Probably yes but I think you should factor in that those countries have lost their royal families and therefore the rarity of major royal families in existence makes the UK more attractive to tourists. It may not appeal to you but to countries with a lack of such heritage (eg the US, ozzies, Canadians, South Americans, etc) this is more appealing

I’m surprised that Sir Jim hasn’t sold the first team squad and just started selling tours of Old Trafford as the main business.