The Starmer Years - Can The New Broom Sweep Clean?

[Sir Ralph]

Live in London and the South East. Already have the highest cost of living in the country. Aspired to do the right thing. We are after you.

The message is don’t aspire or succeed cause we will just take it off you, one way or another to pay for our failure #the socialist way

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/mansion-tax-risks-punishing-homeowners-opinion-5HjdMj5_2/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/rachel-reeves-london-homes-property-uturn-income-tax-manifesto-b1258149.html

[badgerx16]

Chancellors always "leak" potential tax and revenue changes to test the water, and media outlets, working sometimes on purely hypothetical fabrications, will emphasise or criticise depending on their agendas. We will only know what RR is actually planning to do on the day of the Budget.

Edited Saturday at 17:36 by badgerx16

[Farmer Saint]

41 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Live in London and the South East. Already have the highest cost of living in the country. Aspired to do the right thing. We are after you.

The message is don’t aspire or succeed cause we will just take it off you, one way or another to pay for our failure #the socialist way

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/mansion-tax-risks-punishing-homeowners-opinion-5HjdMj5_2/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/rachel-reeves-london-homes-property-uturn-income-tax-manifesto-b1258149.html

No, it's just pay a little bit more...

[tdmickey3]

8 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

One of them was one long, continuous, cringe worthy car crash of a moment.

And the other one was Liz fucking Truss!

Yep, how easy some forget

[egg]

1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said:

Point where I have not answered a question. You don’t want to answer this because nobody has so far. 

I'm not wasting my time evidencing how you've wasted my time. 

[hypochondriac]

3 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

That for sure is an increase, but it feels like it's expected now, how ever much it shouldn't be. We shouldn't hide behind this as a stealth tax, we should grow some balls and increase taxes if that's what is needed (wanted), rather than drag the lower paid into more tax.

I agree. Labour have capitulated to their back benchers.

[Sir Ralph]

1 hour ago, egg said:

I'm not wasting my time evidencing how you've wasted my time. 

Brilliant - so no answer to anything. This is a complete cop out. It’s getting ridiculous now. I’ve given you the chance to call me out and show what a pleb I am but you can’t even do that. The question about Starmer therefore remains unanswered as there isn’t a reasonable response to it

Edited Saturday at 19:58 by Sir Ralph

[Gloucester Saint]

Whatever Reeves, Starmer, Sunak, Hunt, did or didn’t do since 2020, the culprit for the UK’s rapid economic decline (bar NI which is still in the Single Market) is absolutely clear https://www.export.org.uk/insights/trade-news/the-day-in-trade-wto-says-brexit-hitting-uk-trade-eu-nears-mercosur-deal-and-trump-eases-china-tariffs/

Headlines (Private Eye) include 17% fall in exports below pre-Covid levels when other G8 nations have increased by least as much. Investment has slumped since 2020 bar the odd blip. 

Boris isn’t excused along with Farage for driving Brexit and Truss…need I say more.

[sadoldgit]

19 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

I agree. Labour have capitulated to their back benchers.

Sadly Cameron capitulated to his backbenchers, which is why we are screwed financially now.

[egg]

20 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

Brilliant - so no answer to anything. This is a complete cop out. It’s getting ridiculous now. I’ve given you the chance to call me out and show what a pleb I am but you can’t even do that. The question about Starmer therefore remains unanswered as there isn’t a reasonable response to it

Correct. I though I'd made that clear. How I spend my time is a matter for me, and I choose not to waste my time addressing your non answers, or your questions. 

[badgerx16]

Do those people looking for savings in Government spending think that some of the many millions of pounds of public money given in subsidies and grants to corporate businesses might be clawed back ?

Edited 10 hours ago by badgerx16

[Lord Duckhunter]

On 16/11/2025 at 01:57, egg said:

Absolutely. Freezing the allowance is cowardly. 

It’s self defeating as well and it’s pretty immoral, what ever side of the debate you’re on. It highlights the lack of financial education in the general population as well as it’s probably the most abhorrent way of generating more revenue from income tax. People considered  too low paid to pay tax, suddenly paying it, due to inflation rather than an upturn in their circumstances, yet the public doesn’t really see this for what it is. 
 

Whilst I don’t agree with it, increasing income tax, then cutting NI (which was the floated idea) is a more coherent approach if you want to raise tax, but soften the blow for the lowest paid. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Lord Duckhunter