Undercover in the police

[Turkish]

On BBC2 now

not looking good for them or one particular individual.

Im not a fan of these undercover stuff, spends 100s of hours filming and make about 5 minutes of stuff that incriminates rhem but it isn’t pretty so far 

[Gloucester Saint]

My missus is ex-Police and not surprised in the slightest. She worked with a lot of very decent and capable officers of all ranks, some of them household names since they retired (true crime shows) but the racist and/or corrupt element (eg the Bent Coppers real line of duty series and Daniel Morgan case covered by the documentary on ITV about News International thugs like Brooks and Coulson) has always been there especially so in the Met (I remember the training school undercover documentary and the KKK mask) and probably always will be tbh.

These people are very clever in their own warped way and they can second guess criminals because they are very close to that line themselves. Due diligence won’t suss them out because it’s not like the loudmouths standing for Reform with their tweets about sinking migrant boats or their black neighbour. They infiltrate quietly for a long time before their true natures appear when their careers are established.

The calls for Mark Rowley to resign are wrong-headed, he’s done more to root it out than any of his predecessors but the middle-senior ranks still don’t take it seriously and are often enablers for corrupt, extremist and violent rogues. 

Edited October 2 by Gloucester Saint

[Gloucester Saint]

30 minutes ago, Turkish said:

On BBC2 now

not looking good for them or one particular individual.

Im not a fan of these undercover stuff, spends 100s of hours filming and make about 5 minutes of stuff that incriminates rhem but it isn’t pretty so far 

Also, it shows what a time warp parts of the Met is. 25-30 years ago most offices and sectors had buffoons like that sergeant, who thought he was hilarious, but people actually avoided like the plague, along with alcohol in meetings, out-of-control socials and no doubt sexual harassment, and worse.

[whelk]

4 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Also, it shows what a time warp parts of the Met is. 25-30 years ago most offices and sectors had buffoons like that sergeant, who thought he was hilarious, but people actually avoided like the plague, along with alcohol in meetings, out-of-control socials and no doubt sexual harassment, and worse.

I played a few times against police football teams. Loads of psychotic thugs in the team. 

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, whelk said:

I played a few times against police football teams. Loads of psychotic thugs in the team. 

Their rugby teams were even worse. 

[Turkish]

18 minutes ago, whelk said:

I played a few times against police football teams. Loads of psychotic thugs in the team. 

You need to have an element of that as you’re dealing with violent criminals a lot of the time, if you’re a wet lettuce you won’t last five minutes. I’d go as far as to say you probably have to enjoy it. Which is why I thought it was a bit of a stitch when the made a big thing about the guy saying he enjoyed arresting and restraining people. You’d have to really, you couldn’t do the job if you didn’t and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that provided it used the right way and not taking liberties 

[Turkish]

10 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Also, it shows what a time warp parts of the Met is. 25-30 years ago most offices and sectors had buffoons like that sergeant, who thought he was hilarious, but people actually avoided like the plague, along with alcohol in meetings, out-of-control socials and no doubt sexual harassment, and worse.

He was an absolute prick wasn't he, it was quite telling that a few of the women wouldn't give him character references. 

I do think a couple of them got stitched up through, the one who made the comment about how many immigrants are in custody right now didn't really say anything wrong. If you really wanted to be outraged then you could argue he did but he was asked his opinion and gave it using evidence as he saw it to back it up, the fact people didnt like it isn't his fault. The one who got really pissed and had the guy asking him leading questions and agreeing with everything he said the whole night, he was set up there. Also the one who said he enjoyed arresting and restraining people, again cant really see too much wrong with that, you'd have to to be able to do the job.

[Gloucester Saint]

4 hours ago, Turkish said:

He was an absolute prick wasn't he, it was quite telling that a few of the women wouldn't give him character references. 

I do think a couple of them got stitched up through, the one who made the comment about how many immigrants are in custody right now didn't really say anything wrong. If you really wanted to be outraged then you could argue he did but he was asked his opinion and gave it using evidence as he saw it to back it up, the fact people didnt like it isn't his fault. The one who got really pissed and had the guy asking him leading questions and agreeing with everything he said the whole night, he was set up there. Also the one who said he enjoyed arresting and restraining people, again cant really see too much wrong with that, you'd have to to be able to do the job.

The stress of the job is a factor, not been a copper but did something enforcement related similar a long time ago which also had aspects of physical danger. You need a certain type of humour to cope with seeing murder scenes, people leaping onto third rails, violent demonstrations and sex offences which journalists and publics may not fully understand.
I did feel that there was an element of entrapment with the officer who got pissed although stupid and very unpleasant comments not in keeping with the role. But he was off duty and I could empathise there. We all have biases, it’s how/whether you can challenge them in every day life. 

[Gloucester Saint]

The Sargeant at Charing Cross was arrested today.

[sadoldgit]

Mrs SOG’s bestie was here last night. Her daughter is a WPC in the Met working out of Charing Cross nick so I was hoping for a bit of inside info. All she said was that there had been lots of rumours circulating about something big happening and some colleagues didn’t turn up for shifts which created more rumours. 
I asked about her reaction to the documentary and she said her daughter had not seen that kind of behaviour on her shifts. It was often a bit “edgy” as you would expect but nothing as clear cut as what we saw.

She and a few colleagues went out for a drink with the undercover reporter but fortunately for them they behaved themselves. She said the reporter was egging them on and trying to encourage them to be a bit outrageous. From what we saw some of them in the documentary didn’t seem to need much help.

Her former skipper was one of those arrested. I guess we shall hear a bit more when the dust settles.

 

 

 

[Lord Duckhunter]

42 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Mrs SOG’s bestie was here last night. Her daughter is a WPC in the Met working out of Charing Cross nick so I was hoping for a bit of inside info. All she said was that there had been lots of rumours circulating about something big happening and some colleagues didn’t turn up for shifts which created more rumours. 
I asked about her reaction to the documentary and she said her daughter had not seen that kind of behaviour on her shifts. It was often a bit “edgy” as you would expect but nothing as clear cut as what we saw.

She and a few colleagues went out for a drink with the undercover reporter but fortunately for them they behaved themselves. She said the reporter was egging them on and trying to encourage them to be a bit outrageous. From what we saw some of them in the documentary didn’t seem to need much help.

Her former skipper was one of those arrested. I guess we shall hear a bit more when the dust settles.

 

 

 

Load of old pony….

[sadoldgit]

46 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Load of old pony….

I would have bet my mortgage on you replying immediately. You really are a pathetic, sad little man. 
I have mentioned her before in a thread that you replied to. It was in relation to her height (she is quite small) and her being in the Met. That was some effort on my part to make up a story and lay the foundations months ago eh?

As of February 2025 there were 33,201 serving members in the Metropolitan Police Force. There are currently 13,930 members on this site with many more contributing non members. Even with the most rudimentary understanding of mathematics surely even you must realise that the odds on someone here  knowing or knowing of someone serving in the police force must be quite high?

Incidentally, her eldest son is a butcher and her youngest son has recently become a serving officer in the Kent police force. If I get the inside track on any butcher related stories or Kent police rated stories please refer back to this post before you accuse me of being a purveyor of “pony.”

 

[egg]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

Mrs SOG’s bestie was here last night. Her daughter is a WPC in the Met working out of Charing Cross nick so I was hoping for a bit of inside info. All she said was that there had been lots of rumours circulating about something big happening and some colleagues didn’t turn up for shifts which created more rumours. 
I asked about her reaction to the documentary and she said her daughter had not seen that kind of behaviour on her shifts. It was often a bit “edgy” as you would expect but nothing as clear cut as what we saw.

She and a few colleagues went out for a drink with the undercover reporter but fortunately for them they behaved themselves. She said the reporter was egging them on and trying to encourage them to be a bit outrageous. From what we saw some of them in the documentary didn’t seem to need much help.

Her former skipper was one of those arrested. I guess we shall hear a bit more when the dust settles.

 

 

 

You must know about 50,000 people SoG.

[Farmer Saint]

I recently went to the Dutch GP with a few mates, but also including a mate of a mate who is a Met Police Officer in Edmonton.

He was a proper racist 😬

[skintsaint]

On 02/10/2025 at 22:15, whelk said:

I played a few times against police football teams. Loads of psychotic thugs in the team. 

Reminds me of this sketch:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9-9LX1sxY4

[Picard]

13 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

I recently went to the Dutch GP with a few mates, but also including a mate of a mate who is a Met Police Officer in Edmonton.

He was a proper racist 😬

Is that racist as in someone who loves car races or the other type?

[Turkish]

On 05/10/2025 at 12:09, egg said:

You must know about 50,000 people SoG.

Whenever there’s something in the news SOG always knows someone with the inside scoop 😂😂😂😂

[skintsaint]

On 05/10/2025 at 10:17, sadoldgit said:

Mrs SOG’s bestie was here last night. Her daughter is a WPC in the Met working out of Charing Cross nick so I was hoping for a bit of inside info.

WPC hasn't been used for decades....

[Turkish]

12 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

WPC hasn't been used for decades....

Probably not since the days of coffee breaks and squeezing your nipple in the direction of a women if she asks if you want milk 

[Lord Duckhunter]

Is this her Soggy? 
 

 

[sadoldgit]

On 06/10/2025 at 12:47, skintsaint said:

WPC hasn't been used for decades....

True, I was just trying to make a distinction. When I worked for the CPS it wasn’t uncommon to refer to female police officers as WPCs as shorthand. It is no big deal though is it? She is a woman and she is a police officer.

Update: one of her mates was arrested/suspended as part of the fallout from the documentary. Don’t know what the charge against him is yet. His first name is Lawrence, don’t know his surname, but if you think I am bullshitting Duckie his name will be released when they are legally allowed to do so.

Oh, and I notice from you last post that you are still stuck in a 70’s time warp.

 

Edited October 7 by sadoldgit
Added text.

[Weston Super Saint]

8 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

 she is a police officer.

 

 

Is all you needed to say if you want to be welcomed to this century.

[Sarnia Cherie]

On 05/10/2025 at 10:17, sadoldgit said:

Mrs SOG’s bestie was here last night. Her daughter is a WPC in the Met working out of Charing Cross nick so I was hoping for a bit of inside info. All she said was that there had been lots of rumours circulating about something big happening and some colleagues didn’t turn up for shifts which created more rumours. 
I asked about her reaction to the documentary and she said her daughter had not seen that kind of behaviour on her shifts. It was often a bit “edgy” as you would expect but nothing as clear cut as what we saw.

She and a few colleagues went out for a drink with the undercover reporter but fortunately for them they behaved themselves. She said the reporter was egging them on and trying to encourage them to be a bit outrageous. From what we saw some of them in the documentary didn’t seem to need much help.

Her former skipper was one of those arrested. I guess we shall hear a bit more when the dust settles.

 

 

 

Several times when they were saying inappropriate things they were making remarks that they had to be careful and who they can trust and could lose their jobs so they know what they are risking. No sympathy for them.