The Spygate Saga

[EssEffCee]

2 minutes ago, 23rdSaint said:

But I wasn't making a point about fans. It was specifically about media personalities and publications. 

Fair enough. I don't pay a huge amount of attention to media so won't disagree with you mate.

I suspect though that there probably were people in the media calling those clubs cheats but it might not have been as visible to Saints fans as it obviously was when it's our club.

We are of course an easy target when it comes to the media.

 

Edited yesterday at 09:35 by EssEffCee

[saintant]

31 minutes ago, EssEffCee said:

All those clubs were called cheats by many people. Leicester in particular are constantly labelled as cheats on here.

I'm not saying I massively agree with the punishment or anything but I don't think anyone should get upset by the term 'cheat' as I don't see why that word isn't applicable to a club which deliberately broke rules.

None of them received anything close to the relentless vilification we did from press and pundits.

[23rdSaint]

1 minute ago, saintant said:

None of them received anything close to the relentless vilification we did from press and pundits.

Even David Prutton has the gall to come out and say we brought the game into disrepute. I like the guy but pot and kettle...

[EssEffCee]

16 minutes ago, saintant said:

None of them received anything close to the relentless vilification we did from press and pundits.

Like say I don't pay much attention to media so not arguing that point.

Edited yesterday at 10:16 by EssEffCee

[Holmes_and_Watson]

19 minutes ago, 23rdSaint said:

Even David Prutton has the gall to come out and say we brought the game into disrepute. I like the guy but pot and kettle...

Did he start his conclusion with "When push comes to shove..."?

[Saint86]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Why are you still arguing about ancient history ?

The new season starts in a few days, we start on -4 points. That cannot be changed, we just have to get on with it. Hopefully by the end of Septamber we will be in the playoff positions and this will no longer be relevant, other than us being the pantomime villians for the season as "Spygate" gets mentioned in every match commentary - at least it hopefully kills off talk of the 9-0s.

( And here's to dealing out 2 thrashings to grizzleboro ).

We won't thrash the victims. I would expect two very tense and combative games there. I'd be happy with 4 points from them right now.

[beatlesaint]

I see some fkin half wit on 5 Live who is a manager, fuck knows who he is, is saying Tonda should have been sacked blah blah blah.

The levels of hypocrisy and the fact the media are still dripping on about it like it’s the worst thing that’s ever happened in football really boils my piss.

Why is nobody stating that the fine Chelsea got for transfer activity is far far worse given the results of that form of cheating had repercussions for years to come 🤦🏻

Edited yesterday at 10:39 by beatlesaint

[Saint Pete]

1 hour ago, beatlesaint said:

I see some fkin half wit on 5 Live who is a manager, fuck knows who he is, is saying Tonda should have been sacked blah blah blah.

The levels of hypocrisy and the fact the media are still dripping on about it like it’s the worst thing that’s ever happened in football really boils my piss.

Why is nobody stating that the fine Chelsea got for transfer activity is far far worse given the results of that form of cheating had repercussions for years to come 🤦🏻

Because they are Chelsea and we are Southampton. A different rulebook and moral code applies, didn't you know? 

[Whitey Grandad]

2 hours ago, 23rdSaint said:

Even David Prutton has the gall to come out and say we brought the game into disrepute. I like the guy but pot and kettle...

He should know what that means.

[Weston Super Saint]

6 hours ago, trousers said:

Which tallies with the expectation of most on here at the time, if memory serves me correctly. I don't recall many of the 'wise after the event' brigade predicting that we'd be thrown out of the tournament before the EFL dished out their punishment, which is odd given it's now 'obviously the only punishment that the EFL could've realistically given'...

A number of people were quoting the Swindon example and saying it would happen to us.  I'll hold my hands up as that definitely wasn't me.  I expected nothing to come of it, but how wrong was I!  I know my thoughts were blinkered and I guess it was more in hope than expectation.

In the cold light of day, throwing us out of the competition is realistically the only punishment we could have been given as the precedent had already been set.  I don't like it, I'm not over the moon about it, but it's happened and I accept it.

[Fabrice29]

21 hours ago, trousers said:

Dang... Scuppered due to thinking out loud on a football forum yet again...

Saintsweb Intelligentsia 1 Trousers 0

Think we were looking to reasonably debate it like you said but instead of doing that you’ve bailed out quickly 😂

[trousers]

4 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

Think we were looking to reasonably debate it like you said but instead of doing that you’ve bailed out quickly 😂

Are you my wife?

P.s. if I ever end up getting too involved in the typical drawn out futile 'debates' on here, you have me permission to shoot me...

Edited 27 minutes ago by trousers

[trousers]

Apologies if already posted