The Spygate Saga

[Fabrice29]

1 hour ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Don't quite get the dump on Parsons. His basic thrust was everyone (that's the club, the fans, the manager) has been punished more than enough by being thrown out of the play-offs, plus the -4 points and anything else would be disproportionate. Sometimes it's better to get your point across forcefully before the verdict is announced. I approve that the club has come out fighting. Enough is enough, the EFL (and most people who run football) are a bunch of weasels and and can get f*cked imo.

Well it’s a pretty dumb basic thrust isn’t it? That’s the problem. Because the guy who orchestrated the whole thing has yet to be punished, which is what the hearing is about.

[Fabrice29]

Just now, Charlie Wayman said:

As I suggested earlier, the Club will have been informed by the FA through the back channels of the likley sanction on Eckert. That there are no rumours or evidence of a search for a new manager suppots the view that the sanction will be relatively modest and that there is no need to look for a replacement. 

Quite a while ago according to @MB right? 

Anyway, yes I tend to agree. Club have been briefing for quite a while that they don’t expect a huge punishment for Eckert. So let’s hope their briefings are on point this time around.

[egg]

23 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I love the way it’s labelled as the FA giving a fresh statement when it’s actually a former board member at Everton giving his opinion 

Although he's not an FA voice, I'm happy that voices with even a tiny bit of clout are coming out with stuff like that. Simon Jordan another case in point. 

I still think they'll ban him for 8-12 games. If it's at the bottom end of that scale, we'll be ok, and although 12 is stretching it, he'd be back before the Christmas fixtures. 

[saintant]

I'm expecting either a 2-4 match ban or they may go 3 month ban suspended for 2 years. Either way there will be a hefty fine to help pay the FA expense accounts which I suspect are not small beer, no pun intended.

[egg]

1 hour ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Don't quite get the dump on Parsons. His basic thrust was everyone (that's the club, the fans, the manager) has been punished more than enough by being thrown out of the play-offs, plus the -4 points and anything else would be disproportionate. Sometimes it's better to get your point across forcefully before the verdict is announced. I approve that the club has come out fighting. Enough is enough, the EFL (and most people who run football) are a bunch of weasels and and can get f*cked imo.

He should have gone for what he said and admitted at Boro, if not the aftermath. As the man at the top, I'd assume he was behind, or at least overseeing and approving, what we then put out via the media, our choice of legal team, and tactics and approach in the debacle that was the legal process. 

Someone has to take account of how badly we got it wrong, and for me that was/is Parsons. 

[Midfield_General]

9 hours ago, Saint86 said:

Make of this what you will, but predicting a 2-4 game ban and a fine.

https://talk2soccer.com/the-football-association-issues-a-fresh-statement-on-the-tonda-eckert-situation-as-the-latest-update-on-southamptons-expected-ban-emerges/?fbclid=Iwb21leAUf4LpjbGNrBR_gWnBkb2YFZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMzUwNjg1NTMxNzI4AAEeLv9lxDkjAYyHXhpvZTTE5FJCLEYKk0qtjl92r8SLJ-4nZIMFWK9dM07WgRs_aem_xljNiCUyf9qsQD27NM6sAQ

 

That article is gibberish.

The headline says that the FA have issued a fresh statement ahead of the hearing. Which of course they haven’t, and it’s never mentioned again in the article. 

Then the article itself is just some random who used to work for Everton giving his personal thoughts. 

Then it says ‘the fact that Eckert was aware of it or directed it to some extent will serve in mitigation of the fine’, which makes absolutely zero sense.

It’s just the usual Football Insider mix of AI slop and random quotes from obscure people with no knowledge of the situation. 

[Saint86]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

I love the way it’s labelled as the FA giving a fresh statement when it’s actually a former board member at Everton giving his opinion 

Yeah, as usual, the title is pure click bait, but the quotes provide an interesting take.

[Midfield_General]

9 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Yeah, as usual, the title is pure click bait, but the quotes provide an interesting take.

Why? They don’t make any sense, and it’s just some random with no clout or knowledge, who gives a fuck what they think?

No-one treats Football Insider as a credible source on anything. It’s literally made up.

You might as well ask Salman Rushdie or Anton du Beke, it would have about as much significance 

Edited 1 hour ago by Midfield_General

[Turkish]

49 minutes ago, egg said:

Although he's not an FA voice, I'm happy that voices with even a tiny bit of clout are coming out with stuff like that. Simon Jordan another case in point. 

I still think they'll ban him for 8-12 games. If it's at the bottom end of that scale, we'll be ok, and although 12 is stretching it, he'd be back before the Christmas fixtures. 

I wont take anything for granted until we've heard James Cordens opinion

[hypochondriac]

29 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

That article is gibberish.

The headline says that the FA have issued a fresh statement ahead of the hearing. Which of course they haven’t, and it’s never mentioned again in the article. 

Then the article itself is just some random who used to work for Everton giving his personal thoughts. 

Then it says ‘the fact that Eckert was aware of it or directed it to some extent will serve in mitigation of the fine’, which makes absolutely zero sense.

It’s just the usual Football Insider mix of AI slop and random quotes from obscure people with no knowledge of the situation. 

Bollocks. It's positive about the situation so I believe it unquestionably. Don't be a hater.

[Saint Marky]

26 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Why? They don’t make any sense, and it’s just some random with no clout or knowledge, who gives a fuck what they think?

No-one treats Football Insider as a credible source on anything. It’s literally made up.

You might as well ask Salman Rushdie or Anton du Beke, it would have about as much significance 

That’s not a bad idea, I personally would love to hear what Salman and Anton think about the whole saga.

[Miltonaggro]

28 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Why? They don’t make any sense, and it’s just some random with no clout or knowledge, who gives a fuck what they think?

No-one treats Football Insider as a credible source on anything. It’s literally made up.

You might as well ask Salman Rushdie or Anton du Beke, it would have about as much significance 

I would happily pay the paywall fee for Rushdie or du Beke.

[Midfield_General]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

Bollocks. It's positive about the situation so I believe it unquestionably. Don't be a hater.

Heard this morning that Curtis Stigers reckons a 4 match touchline ban with another 4 suspended for 18 months would be the fairest outcome, so I’m feeling more confident about things now

[Turkish]

7 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Heard this morning that Curtis Stigers reckons a 4 match touchline ban with another 4 suspended for 18 months would be the fairest outcome, so I’m feeling more confident about things now

 I wonder why he thinks that?

[Midfield_General]

10 minutes ago, Turkish said:

 I wonder why he thinks that?

All That Matters is justice ✊

[obelisk]

22 minutes ago, Saint Marky said:

I personally would love to hear what Salman and Anton think about the whole saga

I doubt they'd have been taken in by "Gibbo" and his mates. More likely they'd come down on the side of someone standing in a public area watching some blokes have a kick -about in the open.

[LordHester]

26 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Heard this morning that Curtis Stigers reckons a 4 match touchline ban with another 4 suspended for 18 months would be the fairest outcome, so I’m feeling more confident about things now

I reckon Ed Sheeran needs to speak out about Saints' treatment. He's been far too quiet.