The Burnham Years - Can the new(ish) broom sweep clean?

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

We should stop all foreign aid until we clear our national debt 

ESPECIALLY the billions wasted on the stupid defence of the Ukrainian regime 

Why is it stupid ?

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

In the space of barely 48hrs, Britain has announced plans to subsidise European students, gift 30yr visas to migrants entering the country illegally & offer verbal & likely financial restitution for a slave trade it ended 219yrs ago.
 

Behold the most generous doormat in the world.

The funding for EU students is contingent on the UK being included in an EU industrial bloc and thereby avoided additional costs and tariffs.

The 30 years is the time an illegal would have to be in the country before qualifying for Indefinite Leave to Remsin - not a visa.

There won't be restitution for slavery.

Edited Tuesday at 23:26 by badgerx16

[Weston Super Saint]

8 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

The funding for EU students is contingent on the UK being included in an EU industrial bloc and thereby avoided additional costs and tariffs.

The 30 years is the time an illegal would have to be in the country before qualifying for Indefinite Leave to Remsin - not a visa.

There won't be restitution for slavery.

Other than those points, the high IQ society was spot on again!

[Osvaldorama]

11 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

The funding for EU students is contingent on the UK being included in an EU industrial bloc and thereby avoided additional costs and tariffs.

The 30 years is the time an illegal would have to be in the country before qualifying for Indefinite Leave to Remsin - not a visa.

There won't be restitution for slavery.

If you are a sane, rational person who can perform simple maths and cares about the economy of their country and the future of the people within it, then you should be livid with the government this morning.

There is no part of the proposed EU reset terms, that you should be remotely happy about. The entire deal is giving the EU what it wants, and dressing it up as a benefit for the UK when it is anything but.

- Promising to not deport EU criminals
- Paying billions a year to build infrastructure in Eastern Europe
- Subsidizing EU students to study in the UK, costing hundreds of millions a year
- Putting UK laws in the control of the EU again, with no say at all from Parliament
- Adding hundreds of millions of costs onto imports from non-EU countries
- Making imported EV cars 30% more expensive, to help EU car manufacturers
- Giving 80-100,000 extra youth visas a year, increasing competition and driving down wages for our unemployed youth
- Stopping checks on imported agrifoods, increasing risk of diseases currently rampant in EU livestock entering the UK

All of this with the reason of making exporting food to the EU easier, which we do virtually none of and never did, as we are an island that consumes more than it produces.

It doesn't matter if you ultimately want to rejoin the EU or not. This isn't about that. This is about an atrocious deal and our atrocious government. 

 

Edited yesterday at 10:42 by Osvaldorama

[badgerx16]

33 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

If you are a sane, rational person ........
. 

 

Rules you out.

[egg]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

If you are a sane, rational person who can perform simple maths and cares about the economy of their country and the future of the people within it, then you should be livid with the government this morning.

There is no part of the proposed EU reset terms, that you should be remotely happy about. The entire deal is giving the EU what it wants, and dressing it up as a benefit for the UK when it is anything but.

- Promising to not deport EU criminals
- Paying billions a year to build infrastructure in Eastern Europe
- Subsidizing EU students to study in the UK, costing hundreds of millions a year
- Putting UK laws in the control of the EU again, with no say at all from Parliament
- Adding hundreds of millions of costs onto imports from non-EU countries
- Making imported EV cars 30% more expensive, to help EU car manufacturers
- Giving 80-100,000 extra youth visas a year, increasing competition and driving down wages for our unemployed youth
- Stopping checks on imported agrifoods, increasing risk of diseases currently rampant in EU livestock entering the UK

All of this with the reason of making exporting food to the EU easier, which we do virtually none of and never did, as we are an island that consumes more than it produces.

It doesn't matter if you ultimately want to rejoin the EU or not. This isn't about that. This is about an atrocious deal and our atrocious government. 

 

If you stripped out the heavy adjectives and polemical style, you'd probably get some reasoned feedback on the substance of that. 

[bpsaint]

23 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

We should stop all foreign aid until we clear our national debt 

ESPECIALLY the billions wasted on the stupid defence of the Ukrainian regime 

Can’t agree with the Ukraine part, but I agree with the first, especially shitholes like Somalia and Sudan.

[Farmer Saint]

9 hours ago, bpsaint said:

Can’t agree with the Ukraine part, but I agree with the first, especially shitholes like Somalia and Sudan.

If they had more funding their working age men wouldn't want to travel thousands of miles to come here for work.

[Farmer Saint]

In other news...

BBC News - Pound rises to its highest level since the Brexit referendum - BBC News

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6lykq2qjn2vo?app-referrer=deep-link

"Some traders said the UK was being seen in a different light given relative political stability, solid growth and the rapprochement with the European Union.

Sterling has responded strongly to Brexit developments and political uncertainty in recent years.

Jim O'Neill, an economist and former Treasury minister, said: "I'm not surprised. People were, and to a lesser extent, are, underestimating the improving momentum in the UK."

[egg]

42 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

In other news...

BBC News - Pound rises to its highest level since the Brexit referendum - BBC News

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6lykq2qjn2vo?app-referrer=deep-link

"Some traders said the UK was being seen in a different light given relative political stability, solid growth and the rapprochement with the European Union.

Sterling has responded strongly to Brexit developments and political uncertainty in recent years.

Jim O'Neill, an economist and former Treasury minister, said: "I'm not surprised. People were, and to a lesser extent, are, underestimating the improving momentum in the UK."

Yep, and 10 year gilt yields have fallen by a fair chunk too. 

Burnham has been slow and steady, and made sensible noises re the EU, and that's what we've needed. 

[badgerx16]

13 minutes ago, egg said:

Yep, and 10 year gilt yields have fallen by a fair chunk too. 

Burnham has been slow and steady, and made sensible noises re the EU, and that's what we've needed. 

So you're not one of Ossie's "sane, rational" people ?

[Osvaldorama]

Who else is signing up for the new Ukraine GCSE? 😂

peak clown world propaganda has arrived 
 

[Osvaldorama]

2 hours ago, egg said:

Yep, and 10 year gilt yields have fallen by a fair chunk too. 

Burnham has been slow and steady, and made sensible noises re the EU, and that's what we've needed. 

LOL. 

Global issue when it suits your narrative , yet somehow it’s Burnham when it suits your narrative. 
People with low time preference never cease to amaze 

[tdmickey3]

15 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Who else is signing up for the new Ukraine GCSE? 😂

peak clown world propaganda has arrived 
 

You wouldn't be able to for 3 reasons

1. IQ too low to measure

2. Being a racist

3. Being a cunt

 

Edited 7 hours ago by tdmickey3

[badgerx16]

25 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Who else is signing up for the new Ukraine GCSE? 😂

peak clown world propaganda has arrived 
 

There was previously a Ukraine GCSE up to the mid 1990s, which was discontinued due to lack of demand. This new one is being introduced because there are over 30 thousand Ukrainian children in the UK, having been displaced by Putin's invasion, who have only had the option of studying Russian up to now.

But as you don't think we should be supporting Ukraine in any way, I am not surprised by your total lack of empathy.

Edited 7 hours ago by badgerx16

[whelk]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

Who else is signing up for the new Ukraine GCSE? 😂

peak clown world propaganda has arrived 
 

I wonder what qualifications this cunt has?  I am guessing fuck all

[egg]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

LOL. 

Global issue when it suits your narrative , yet somehow it’s Burnham when it suits your narrative. 
People with low time preference never cease to amaze 

You've got to be pretty stupid to not be able to comprehend that there are domestic politics, global politics, geo politics, and occasions where 2 or more of those things overlap. 

[Sheaf Saint]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

There was previously a Ukraine GCSE up to the mid 1990s, which was discontinued due to lack of demand. This new one is being introduced because there are over 30 thousand Ukrainian children in the UK, having been displaced by Putin's invasion, who have only had the option of studying Russian up to now.

But as you don't think we should be supporting Ukraine in any way, I am not surprised by your total lack of empathy.

It's almost as if he's completely incapable of understanding context or seeing the bigger picture.

Who'd have thought it 🤔

[bpsaint]

5 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

If they had more funding their working age men wouldn't want to travel thousands of miles to come here for work.

If only that were true.

[egg]

24 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

If only that were true.

To a large extent it is. Ask someone who's arrived here from Afghanistan, for example, if they'd have come if we weren't smashing up and meddling on their country. The answer, and it's honest, is nearly always no.

Everyone wants stability and hope. 

[Farmer Saint]

32 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

If only that were true.

If as a country they didn't have mass poverty, then of course they wouldn't. Why do you think they come here?

Edited 4 hours ago by Farmer Saint

[bpsaint]

5 minutes ago, egg said:

To a large extent it is. Ask someone who's arrived here from Afghanistan, for example, if they'd have come if we weren't smashing up and meddling on their country. The answer, and it's honest, is nearly always no.

Everyone wants stability and hope. 

We’re not smashing up Somalia though, it’s people are doing a good job of that themselves. They should try building up a society rather than wrecking it, and looking to us for handouts whilst contributing nothing to the world.

[Weston Super Saint]

2 hours ago, whelk said:

I wonder what qualifications this cunt has?  I am guessing fuck all

GCSE in making the doors fall off the comedy car.

A level in clown makeup.

Degree in bellendery.

[tdmickey3]

38 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

GCSE in making the doors fall off the comedy car.

A level in clown makeup.

Degree in bellendery.

I think he is a specialist wanker

[whelk]

2 hours ago, bpsaint said:

We’re not smashing up Somalia though, it’s people are doing a good job of that themselves. They should try building up a society rather than wrecking it, and looking to us for handouts whilst contributing nothing to the world.

Hey getting you your takeaway promptly ensuring it is still hot, never mind ignoring the Highway Code, whatever that means nowadays, and riding on the pavement, cannot be considered ‘contributing nothing’

[egg]

4 hours ago, bpsaint said:

We’re not smashing up Somalia though, it’s people are doing a good job of that themselves. They should try building up a society rather than wrecking it, and looking to us for handouts whilst contributing nothing to the world.

And there's the case for international aid. 

[Gloucester Saint]

6 hours ago, whelk said:

I wonder what qualifications this cunt has?  I am guessing fuck all

I bet Ossie supports the study of German Literature - as long as it includes Mein Kampf as a core text. Probably the only text. 

As one of the Nazi saluting blokes said on YouTube from Portsmouth Patriots, it blows your mind when you read in English.