Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 that will take us forward..? crouch? you have to be joking who else is there..? last time we got lowe out at all costs and some predicted it would not work and lowe would be back (and got royally laughed at)....and here we are in 2009 with lowe in charge.. it is ok wanting lowe out...but for who...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Saltz or Davies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Trevor Birch Karen Brady or any other half decent businessman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Trevor Birch Karen Brady or any other half decent businessman oh right.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Saltz or Davies must have missed the bit where they have claimed recently that they are remotely interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Leon Crouch for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Leon Crouch for me. not for me...would not take the risk of him appointing another dodd and gorman....what a terrible episode that was...granted not as bad as now but ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 oh right.. but that is the point there are 92 league clubs, all with CEO'S , lots of other unemployed Ceo's Why not one of them, employed by an interview committee of Lowe, Crouch, Wilde and Askham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulip Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 anyone but lowe&wilde.its about getting anyone in who can unite the fans and bring the crowds back.if that man is crouch then so be it,he'll have my support and next years season ticket money.lowe&wilde out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 but that is the point there are 92 league clubs, all with CEO'S , lots of other unemployed Ceo's Why not one of them, employed by an interview committee of Lowe, Crouch, Wilde and Askham? so, we just go with any old then.. bit like when wilde came in then..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 so, we just go with any old then.. bit like when wilde came in then..? no i am proposing that those with the most to lose if the club goes tits up , swallow their pride and advertise , select a Ceo AS the rest of the business world does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 no i am proposing that those with the most to lose if the club goes tits up ' date=' swallow their pride and advertise , select a Ceo AS the rest of the business world does.[/quote'] who interviews them then..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Leon Crouch would do nicely. A true fan, didn't draw a salary last time he did the job, banks with the same guys at Barclays that 'look after' SLH, got the right man for the job last time after a dodgy start with Dodd and Gorman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 i find it amazing that people would be willing to put their faith into a man that made the very single mistake (and the biggest of all decisions) that lowe did and gets slated for by appointing dodd and gorman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Farmer Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Lowe is just an employee. Sack him and advertise in the FT. Hire best applicant. Radical I know. No hang on, thats what every other PLC does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Lowe is just an employee. Sack him and advertise in the FT. Hire best applicant. Radical I know. No hang on, thats what every other PLC does. again...who does the interviews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 who interviews them then..? Well, obviously the major shareholders, as they have the greatest vested interest. As demonstrations and boycotts gather speed and strength, so it becomes clearer each day that the current scenario cannot be permitted to continue. In the event of administration, the choice of a new board will rest with the administrators, so at least things are still in the hands of those major shareholders at the moment. If they don't act soon, they will not have any say in the future running of the club, as their shareholdings will have gone and the paying customers of the business will make it clear to the administators that they don't want any of the charlatans to be involved in the club's future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Me. I care about the club. I have run three business, all growing during my tenure. I am, thankfully, highly regarded by most of those I have worked with, for and managed. I understand the English football game. I understand it is about cultivating relationships - with the FA, the League, the staff, the players, the management and above all, the paying customer - sometimes known as 'fans'. I have an understanding of business finance and always surround myself with people better than I am. I am direct and charitable in equal measure. I set exacting standards and expect others to match them. What else is it you need??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 i find it amazing that people would be willing to put their faith into a man that made the very single mistake (and the biggest of all decisions) that lowe did and gets slated for by appointing dodd and gorman... Simple. One's Crouch (fan and philanthropist), the other is Lowe (failed businessman and t*2t) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Simple. One's Crouch (fan and philanthropist), the other is Lowe (failed businessman and t*2t) wasnt wilde a fan and didnt we all go "wilde" when he came.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 i find it amazing that people would be willing to put their faith into a man that made the very single mistake (and the biggest of all decisions) that lowe did and gets slated for by appointing dodd and gorman... Do you fail to see the other side of this particular coin? The bigger mistake by far was the dismissal of Pearson and the appointment of the double Dutch nonentities. Or don't you agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0108787 Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Me. I care about the club. I have run three business, all growing during my tenure. I am, thankfully, highly regarded by most of those I have worked with, for and managed. I understand the English football game. I understand it is about cultivating relationships - with the FA, the League, the staff, the players, the management and above all, the paying customer - sometimes known as 'fans'. I have an understanding of business finance and always surround myself with people better than I am. I am direct and charitable in equal measure. I set exacting standards and expect others to match them. What else is it you need??? i'm sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Do you fail to see the other side of this particular coin? The bigger mistake by far was the dismissal of Pearson and the appointment of the double Dutch nonentities. Or don't you agree? where have I failed to see the other side of the coin...where have I said lowe is better or should stay...where have I backed lowe..? this is not crouch v lowe it is to see if we have a real alternative that is a clean sweep and we can forget this sorry mess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 wasnt wilde a fan and didnt we all go "wilde" when he came.. Liverpool fan so i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Me. I care about the club. I have run three business, all growing during my tenure. I am, thankfully, highly regarded by most of those I have worked with, for and managed. I understand the English football game. I understand it is about cultivating relationships - with the FA, the League, the staff, the players, the management and above all, the paying customer - sometimes known as 'fans'. I have an understanding of business finance and always surround myself with people better than I am. I am direct and charitable in equal measure. I set exacting standards and expect others to match them. What else is it you need??? Do you have the funding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Lowe is just an employee. Sack him and advertise in the FT. Hire best applicant. Radical I know. No hang on, thats what every other PLC does. Indeed, it's not rocket science. As for interviewers, well isn't that where non-exec directors come into it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 where have I failed to see the other side of the coin...where have I said lowe is better or should stay...where have I backed lowe..? this is not crouch v lowe it is to see if we have a real alternative that is a clean sweep and we can forget this sorry mess... In the absence of a new 'outsider' and it came down to sticking with Lowe or having Crouch back, frankly it's a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Me. I care about the club. I have run three business, all growing during my tenure. I am, thankfully, highly regarded by most of those I have worked with, for and managed. I understand the English football game. I understand it is about cultivating relationships - with the FA, the League, the staff, the players, the management and above all, the paying customer - sometimes known as 'fans'. I have an understanding of business finance and always surround myself with people better than I am. I am direct and charitable in equal measure. I set exacting standards and expect others to match them. What else is it you need??? And at least 50% of fans think you are a ****. Perfect chairman material. I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 who interviews them then..? bLIMEY you are hard work this morning, i said Lowe, Wilde, Crouch and Askham swallow their prides and interview in my original post, you are a bit like my missus this morning not listening or reading what does not fit your agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Lowe is a failed incompetent bean counter with no empathy with the customers. He cannot now succeed. What qualification is that to keep the job. The Chairman and board need to be NON - EXECUTIVE. The club secretary should handle the finances, the football management the football, and the board ratify the decisions. No CEO/overlord. Department heads report to the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 bLIMEY you are hard work this morning' date=' i said Lowe, Wilde, Crouch and Askham swallow their prides and interview in my original post, you are a bit like my missus this morning not listening or reading what does not fit your agenda[/quote'] and you would trust the view of wilde and more so askham (who is very much to blame for where we are right now)....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Lowe is a failed incompetent bean counter with no empathy with the customers. He cannot now succeed. What qualification is that to keep the job. The Chairman and board need to be NON - EXECUTIVE. The club secretary should handle the finances, the football management the football, and the board ratify the decisions. No CEO/overlord. Department heads report to the board. I agree but lowe got slated a few years back by suggesting combining the jobs of the football board and the PLC board...he got slated for trying to have too much power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 And at least 50% of fans think you are a ****. Perfect chairman material. I'm in. Ah! Somebody qualified to talk on behalf of 50% of the fans, eh? All we need now is another such as you who talks on behalf of the other 50% and we can have just two individuals who together can talk on behalf of all of us. Tell me a little more about yourself and your beliefs, as I don't know you from Adam. You'll understand that I need to know whether you represent my views, or whether I'll need to align myself behind the other fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 and you would trust the view of wilde and more so askham (who is very much to blame for where we are right now)....? agreed but the only way forward is if these people ALL agree with an appointment or else we are just pushing deck chairs around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonRichards Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Sir Richard Branson should forget Buying F1 Honda and take on a real challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 IF we are talking about change with the current financial mess, then simple, it needs to be a middle ground compromise who can do it for the love of the club as there will be no salary and nothing but abuse when decisions have to be made. No idea who, Lee Hoos is too inexperienced, Cowen is too closely associated with Lowe, Corbett is too populist and (IMHO) classed as a hanger on. It is unlikely any big name fan would want to be associated with the mess, but as UP once mentioned, Stuart Green is the only name I have come across. IF we are talking about somebody coming in with an influx of capital to "save" the club then they would have to keep somebody close who knows the back office operations in order to help re-structure. In that scenario I could see Cowen having a role. Depending on WHO came in with the money, if a businessman they would do it themselves but probably need some DoF type of advisor/consultant If we are talking about somebody coming in to take the club forwards and back to the PL with bucket loads of money - who gives a damn as long as ALL the hangers on have gone! Come on down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Who takes over? Someone who does not refer me as a customer. Someone who does not bully it's staff. Someone who does not claim that the club is bigger than Spurs. Someone who does not sit next to the manager on live games. Someone who does not come up with stupid comments about catering and a radio station. Someone who does not take a pathetic gamble and employ two Dutch nobodies. Someone who interfers with team matters. And finally someone who is not a complete FULLSTOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 not for me...would not take the risk of him appointing another dodd and gorman....what a terrible episode that was...granted not as bad as now but ffs Was definatly a low point, that cup game against Bristol was terrible. Tbf though against Norwich we did look good and I can understand why he appointed them, he didn't take too long to sort it out either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Anyone. Frankly having Lowe here is corrosive - even if he is doing the right thing... so put an 8 year old child in charge and we'd get more fans and optimism back. A CEO and Crouch for now as a TEMPORARY replacement until the Club can be sold and delisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Was definatly a low point, that cup game against Bristol was terrible. Tbf though against Norwich we did look good and I can understand why he appointed them, he didn't take too long to sort it out either. i know but they should never have been given the job in the first place like saying it never took lowe long to sort ot sturrock either (who should never have been given the job also) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 When will the diatribe start to focus on RESULTS and the CORPORATE STRUCTURE of the club. Forget Lowe - his day is done now...he is a spent force and its only a matter of time. The BIG question is not who will replace him but HOW. This means concentrating on dissolving the PLC - absolutely essential to ensure the right corporate structure is in place post-Lowe and the right people are in place (i.e. not the present incumbents) to attract new investment rather than limply prop-up a failed experiment. Frankly, I expect the club to be financially sick for quite sometime, but one thing is for sure - if the PLC structure remains new investment will not come into the club. If this club is EVER going to survive and repair itself (let alone get back to the top flight), THIS must be the numero uno priority. Sorry if that is a tough call for all the shareholders that post on here, but hey that's the risk and you really should have sold when Lowe's master plan looked like going tits-up months ago. I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0108787 Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Sir Richard Branson should forget Buying F1 Honda and take on a real challenge. mmmhh the 'Virgin' St Marys Stadium has a ring to it don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 (edited) The club could head-hunt just about anyone if they had the money. However, in the current climate it would have to be either a CEO who is doing well at a lower league standard, one currently out of work, someone looking to invest and become owner/chairman (ahem!), or may be someone from another sport. In an ideal world, someone like Adam Pearson or Rod Bransgrove. The guy at MK Dons would be good, if he could be persuaded he's taken them as far as he can and he could potentially have a Prem Club if he came here. Edited 21 February, 2009 by krissyboy31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 must have missed the bit where they have claimed recently that they are remotely interested You asked who else could do the job. You were given two names who 'could' do the job better than Lowe. Why then did you ridicule the answer? Or were you hoping everyone would agree that Lowe really is doing a wonderful job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 You asked who else could do the job. You were given two names who 'could' do the job better than Lowe. Why then did you ridicule the answer? Or were you hoping everyone would agree that Lowe really is doing a wonderful job? might as well say martin o'neil could be our manager... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0108787 Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 might as well say martin o'neil could be our manager... well it would be an improvement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 jesus..did not realise I had to put realistic in my original post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 jesus..did not realise I had to put realistic in my original post But what will you accept as 'realistic'? A sworn affidavit stating the person's intentions signed by their grandparents grandparents? I was under the impression that whilst Lowe was at the club Salz wanted no involvement, I guess that's why he hasn't stated his interest lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 But what will you accept as 'realistic'? A sworn affidavit stating the person's intentions signed by their grandparents grandparents? I was under the impression that whilst Lowe was at the club Salz wanted no involvement, I guess that's why he hasn't stated his interest lately why the.. when you have stated it was a guess..? nothing is stopping these people talking to the echo is there....stating their intentions and putting more pressure on lowe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonRichards Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 mmmhh the 'Virgin' St Marys Stadium has a ring to it don't you think? Lol. I do indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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